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It's good man. It's basically the sequel to Trainspotting (but also some of his other books as well, with Juice Terry being in it as on old fat cunt etc). Well worth reading, you can prolly pick one up on eBay for a couple pound. I bought Trainspotting the other week for £2 because I got fed up looking for the copy that I know is in this house somewhere.
 
Juice Terry, love it! I just re-read Trainspotting after reading Skagboys. I was really impressed with Skagboys, thought it was one of his best :)
 
I've only seen the film, I must find a copy of the book to read so that I can compare, although I always find its best to read the book before watching the film! I read the beach long before I watched the film and I have to say the film somewhat dissapointed me!
 
ooh imreading bedroom secrets of the masterchefs. i believe irvine welsh should be essential reading for all women.

filth. now that is a book of filth. in fact im going to go to bed and read and let the book fall onto my face as i gouch. nite nitey nite i cant type straight.

i akways end up thinking in leith speak when i read an irvine welsh book. does that happen to anyone else?
 
Aye Spade, it only came out recently. I just finished reading it. Thought it was quality, definitely worth getting. I'm now reading Trainspotting (for about the 20th time) & I'm gonna read Porno again once I'm finished.
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The review I read said it wasn't very good but I think most reviews since Trainspotting have said that and I've enjoyed most of his books I've read except Filth though I liked Crime (sequel to Filth) once I finally got into it, took a while. Bedroom Secrets of the Master Chefs was bizarre but a good read, Glue and Porno are classics and Marabou Stork Nightmare was a decent read too.

I was reading earlier that in Skagboys there's a line from Renton saying something like "it's not like any cunts gonna make a film about our lives is it". :D

Just as I was typing this an advert for a BBC Drama came on TV and Spud was in it. Mon Spud!
 
Does Irvin Welsh write in 'Scottish' (if you know what I mean)? How difficult would Trainspotting or Porno be to read for a non-native?
 
Good to hear, I can usually translate crackheads posts so I guess I should be fine :)

Might grab myself a copy of trainspotting to start off with then, unless there is another one of his books that I should get stuck into first?
 
Acidtek said:
I've only seen the film, I must find a copy of the book to read so that I can compare, although I always find its best to read the book before watching the film! I read the beach long before I watched the film and I have to say the film somewhat dissapointed me!
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The Beach Film ruined a excellent book imo
 
Chemical Samile said:
Does Irvin Welsh write in 'Scottish' (if you know what I mean)? How difficult would Trainspotting or Porno be to read for a non-native?
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His better stuff is written in 'Scottish'. I've got Trainspotting sitting right next to me, just opening it at a random page where two people are having a conversation...

- So when dae ye finish the school? he asked her
- Next year. Ah wanted tae go now but ma Ma hassled us tae stey.
- Takin O grades?
- Aye
- Which yins?
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As other folk have said, you'll be able to read it no bother. His style of writing is pretty strange, like the way he punctuates stuff. Hard to explain but you'll know what I mean as soon as you open a book. I got a copy of one of his other books off my dad ages ago, his (English) bird had read it before me, the back couple of pages had been turned into a Leith>English translation by my dad so that she could understand it. "Hireys" = "Money" etc haha. You'll pick it up easy enough though.

I can't believe you've never read any of his books man. Trainspotting is probably the best place to start.
 
Yins does mean ones. See, it's not hard!

Before reading Irvine Welsh I'd never really seen stuff written down like that. It's not that folk here think they are making up words, they're just pronouncing shit really fucking weirdly lol. It's not till it's written down that you can see how weird it is. Yins isn't supposed to be a different word that means ones, it's just how a cunt from Edinburgh would pronounce ones.

Pimp is quality. I really wish I'd clocked the dictionary type thing at the back (that's exactly the same as what my dad wrote out for his Mrs) before I got to the end though haha. Took me a good while to figure out what a lot of the words meant, I didn't think there would be a dictionary/translation at the back. I still got a couple of things wrong, some stuff didn't quite make sense then when I found the real meanings it did.
 
Haha yeah that dictionary thing at the back made me want to read the whole book again. I can't do a very good Scottish accent, even in my head, so it will generally just go from Scottish to Welsh to Irish to Pakistani so it makes reading writing like that really difficult lol.
 
irvine welsh is just brilliant. his books are so alive ... the similes and metaphors he uses are spot on and original and chem sam they arent difficult to read because they are so well written . there is no pretence or bullshit. very honest writing. but of course not always pleasant. whats pimp?

soooo glad i paid my fine at the library books cost a lot and they take up too much space but i dont like to bin them


did anyone ever read martin millars books? years ago. there was the good fairies of new york, lux the poet and a few other things they were good lil books.. foolishly lent em all out and i guess theyre out of print now.. cant remember what happens in them
 
I don't know what it would be like for a non-Scottish person to read it. It's easy for me even though it's mainly in Edinburgh chat rather than Glasgow, but then it's not that much different. It wouldn't be so popular if the Scottishness of it was so difficult that it limited the audience though.

The wee voice in my head reads it in a pure tuechter accent. I love the way it switches between different characters POV, or is sometimes in 3rd person, eg one chapter will be written from Sick Boy's POV & in Sick Boy's words, then the next chapter will be Renton etc. After a while you can pick up within the first line or two of a chapter which character it is that is telling the story & the voice in your head changes slightly. Like, Begbie's patter is written completely differently from Spud's.

Filth is probably the craziest one when it comes to reading from different characters perspectives. I think it's Filth anyway, been a while since I read it, for anyone that can remember - It's the one with the tape-worm, aye?
 
Filth is the one about the corrupt copper isn't it ? read it along time ago, read Porno fairly recently and thought it was a great sequel to Trainspotting, definitely not sucking up to film script writers with that one:)
 
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