Random MSN Gibberings LXXXIX: Off my rocker babbling about nothing

[strungout2010]

@ ATM

Made me lol for real , at least you get your own Nee - Gro.
Congrats on the job & the typo.

 

[Myshkin]

Sam Please remove that quote, I hate that word more than any other word in the English language as Brimz will confirm, ,my apologies of that small faux pas offended anyone

It's done. I was going to demand that you called me 'Sambo' before I did it, but you've given us all a laugh today. And congratulations again on the job.

 

[TheSpade]

You find CBT helpful? I'm currently in the process of fucking my life up (ie, lying in bed when I'm supposed to be at work ). I was told by my work's Occ. Health caants that I should ask my GP to refer me for CBT but he point blank refused. He said even if he was going to refer me there's an 18 month waiting list so there wasn't any point, so.... see ya later. Helpful guy like

Surprised you've still got a job like with all the skiving. Call centre work is fucking awful and I'm determined I'll never work in one again.

 

[jancrow]

Hahaha! Well done atm but... hahahahah! Belter of a typo there.

You find CBT helpful? I'm currently in the process of fucking my life up (ie, lying in bed when I'm supposed to be at work ). I was told by my work's Occ. Health caants that I should ask my GP to refer me for CBT but he point blank refused. He said even if he was going to refer me there's an 18 month waiting list so there wasn't any point, so.... see ya later. Helpful guy like

I'm doing CBT at the moment, there was one fucker of a waiting list but I think the situation I was in when I applied got me bumped up a bit (it wasn't very pretty).

I thought 'oh here we go, well, at least there's someone listening to me but this is daft' at first but after going to a few sessions I started to find it useful and now I get the feeling it could be a huge breakthrough in several areas of my life. I'm actually starting to do the type of thinking they teach you on the fly which I wasn't expecting at all. It's made me realise how many of my problems are magnified and scare the shit out of me (to the point of total inaction) mainly because of the way I look at them.

Your GP does sound a bit shit although it could just be your occupational health caaant recommending something pretty blindly. Or you may be overstating your problem to them to make work go easier on you, I'd certainly be doing that, I'm not making a judgement about you, maaaan. It is an intensive thing for the health service to commit to as it's one on one and at least six sessions. Would you say you're actually depressed or just fucked off with work?

 

[cherrycolouredfunk]

In a pretty good mood today, feeling okay in myself. I've even accepted that I WILL be having an operation in next couple days as i'm not healing. It's a cold crisp sunshine spring day. Today is a laundry day, attacking the pile that I've let build up over the last week as I've not had enough electric to run the machine.

Found some loose copper in change so I can satisfy my current Biscuit fetish and buy a pack of Coconut creams which are my current faves. Time for a cuppa coffee, black as i'm choosing biscuits over milk.

 

[jancrow]

A sound strategy! Glad you're in a good mood, hope the kicking is not too horrible at the moment and that a good mood and nice weather is making it easier on ya.

 

[Allein]

You find CBT helpful? I'm currently in the process of fucking my life up (ie, lying in bed when I'm supposed to be at work ). I was told by my work's Occ. Health caants that I should ask my GP to refer me for CBT but he point blank refused. He said even if he was going to refer me there's an 18 month waiting list so there wasn't any point, so.... see ya later. Helpful guy like

I've found it very useful, but I had to jump through hoops to get, first off I had to go to an addiction center to deal with my booze and blues habit (OK so I've slipped up on the Blues since but I haven't had a drink), then I got sort of CBT light, which basically meant I got a hour phone call a week and some homework to do, this wasn't working so they stopped that and I had to wait about 2-3 months for face to face.

Did your GP do and assessment questionnaire anything like this one ?

www.eweinstockmd.com/1010465-Patient-Questionnaire2.pdf

If not you need to go back preferably ask to see another doctor, if I had had a better GP I would never have ended up in the mess I got into a couple of years back. I remember him asking me, during a routine checkup for my psoriasis "how are you feeling" and from no where I said " well I've been feeling a bit low lately" I don't even know where those words came from. The guy didn't even look up from hi screen, just printed me off another repeat prescription and I left. 6 Months later I was in a secure Mental Health unit

I'm no teaching you how to play the system you should answer all the questions in such questionnaires honestly, personally the first time I had to answer the suicide ones I cried as I had to admit to myself that that was exactly what I was planning on doing.

Take care and don't let them tell you different you can see another doctor or change practices and you do not have to give any reason.

Best Wishes

 

[parttime crackhead]

I'll be very surprised if I still have a job after this latest round of sick days. Not been in this week. Gonna try to go tomorrow... but I said that yesterday

All the jobs on the go round here are call centres. It's fucking brutal. It's a fucking horrible environment to work in (never mind the actual work itself, which 9 times out of 10 is also fucking horrible), everyone else that works there either totally hates it & wants out or is a fucking moron. So all day is spent either listening to some idiot who thinks what they're doing actually means something, or thinks that by sucking enough manager's cocks he/she will one day be able to graduate to the sacred role of TEAM LEADER WOOOOO where they will have to deal with slightly less shite for very slightly more pay - FUCK OFF YOU SNIVELING LITTLE IDIOT!, or listening to someone tell you about how much they hate the job & want the fuck out of there asap - I ALREADY FUCKING KNOW THIS & YOU TALKING ABOUT IT ALL DAY ISN'T HELPING!!!

FUCK! I hate this shit. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get sacked & tbh I don't even really care that much, if I did I would have went in today. There's nothing physically wrong with me my brain was just telling me to stay in bed & save myself the fucking bother. It doesn't save me the bother though, it just delays (& multiplies) it.



atm - Cheers man. It's not as bad as all that, don't have any serious addictions etc, no plans on ending it anytime soon (even though it is something I've thought & spoke about a lot, it's not something I'd ever actually do). I've filled in one of those questionnaires a couple of times & scored pretty highly for depression every time if I remember correctly (it's been a while). Not that much was done about it. Got 6 sessions with some therapist dude through the NHS then that was it, felt like it helped at the time but it didn't really looking back. 6 hours isn't really enough imo. Other than that the Dr either tells me to grin & bear it or tries to prescribe me anti-deps or tries to give me a sick line for work (which is no use, they'll just sack me eventually anyway). His latest one has just been "Quit your job". Aye, no danger mate. Might be cooshty for you with your Merc parked outside your own GPs practice to give advice like that but it's not really practical for me, is it? Cunt. I can't stand 90% of the GPs I've met. I don't think it's their fault to be fair, I'm just another clown on the constant conveyor belt of cunts rolling past them all day everyday.

 

[cherrycolouredfunk]

A sound strategy! Glad you're in a good mood, hope the kicking is not too horrible at the moment and that a good mood and nice weather is making it easier on ya.

I can't lie, my mate sorted me out with a few ml or a snowball, but it adds up to less than half a bag. Just to take the sniffles away and give me a bit of motivation to get on with my day. Other wise i'd still be lying in bed trying to will myself the motivation to get up and do stuff.

Still not been out for biscuits or to the chemist, hanging up washing got in the way, ah dear, housework chores meh!

 

[Myshkin]

I thought 'oh here we go, well, at least there's someone listening to me but this is daft' at first but after going to a few sessions I started to find it useful and now I get the feeling it could be a huge breakthrough in several areas of my life. I'm actually starting to do the type of thinking they teach you on the fly which I wasn't expecting at all. It's made me realise how many of my problems are magnified and scare the shit out of me (to the point of total inaction) mainly because of the way I look at them.

I'm really conflicted on the whole CBT thing and how it's regarded by many as the current magic bullet for mental health problems.

Which is not to say that it isn't potentially very effective and useful for many - this thread is a prime example. Unfortunately the hype around it leads to heightened expectations from a lot of people, so when they're actually confronted with how damn simple most of it really is, some tend to lose faith and/or interest and it can actually become counterproductive. On a personal level I've known more people jack it in (at various stages of treatment) than I have successful cases. Then again, I know plenty of people who question widely-held beliefs about mental health, so my sample is probably not all that representative of the wider public.

I suppose a lot of the potential for success or failure depends on the patient's attitude to, and relationship with, the practitioner. As I'm inherently suspicious of many aspects of psychiatry and resistant to any kind of therapy involving intimate contact, obviously it wouldn't work for me. I can, however, confirm that basic NLP techniques (along with more esoteric stuff, but that's another story) have had a hugely positive impact on my life - and NLP tends to make Johnny Science wrinkle his spoddish, blackhead-encrusted nose, despite sharing many central principles of CBT. Funny that.

What I'm trying to say is that it works for some but nobody should see it as a miracle cure, lest they be left feeling sorely cheated. Then again, I'd always advise others to follow the advice of healthcare professionals before making the decision as to whether that's the road they want to travel.

 

[badandwicked]

PTCH dont underestimate the effect your job is having on your mental health. call centre work is incredibly stressful, its the only job where your employers can track what you're up to every second of the day which in itself is very unnatural and stressful. Humans dont respond well to this.

With spring coming you'd be better of labouring on a building site for £50 a day while you sort your head out, smoke all the weed you want, great craic and you'll never have been in better physical shape. Taxi drivings another quick & easy way out. If your working hard & enjoying your job you'll be inclined to take less drugs which can only help.

I worked in a call centre for nearly 5 years and nearly had a breakdown, I was a mess, I left and never looked back.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

My doctor tried to put my on anti-deps because I came in and looked miserable when I was talking about all the operations i've had! I was like yeah right... it seems to me that once you're on those fuckers you don't ever come off. I do tick off a reasonable amount of those boxes, but I assume my mood will perk up when I have something to be perky about, so it's just a case of waiting.

PTCH, when I smoke the night before working there is a 50:50 chance i'm gonna go in. Probably worse. Have you tried stopping smoking an hour or so before bed?

 

[cherrycolouredfunk]

^ ^Couldn't agree with badandwicked more. Six years of call centre work, (I worked in the public sector, and it's NO better) having to press a button on your desk phone that even said 'Toilet' written on it, being told I spend TOO long having a wee, doing what is only human is just wrong, having people call you up to speak to you like a piece of shit just because they've had a bad day. Stressful.

 

[badandwicked]

^ being aprehended cos you signed on 2 minutes late, took 3 minutes over on your lunch, knowing everything you say is being monitored and recorded, being chained to your desk by a headset, not being allowed to personalise your workspace - MICRO MANAGEMENT GO FUCK YOURSELF lol

 

[parttime crackhead]

^ Ha, thanks for the vicarious venting. Saved me some typing there.

The thing is, I pretty much have no experience or qualifications in anything else & even getting a job labouring round here right now would be a struggle. If I left or got sacked from this job the only thing I could get is more call centre work, which obviously defeats the point.

 

[jancrow]

What I'm trying to say is that it works for some but nobody should see it as a miracle cure, lest they be left feeling sorely cheated. Then again, I'd always advise others to follow the advice of healthcare professionals before making the decision as to whether that's the road they want to travel.

Oh definitely, it really doesn't work for a lot of people, I know two people who've gone into it and come out the same or worse (in one case worse because he paid for it and reckons it was useless). I suppose what I find encouraging is that it's made a crack in what I thought were baked-in ways of thinking, allowed me to be a bit freer in my own head kinda thing, when I was worried that various experiences had fucked my brain into only being capable of one kind of thought.

 

[Myshkin]

If you've achieved that, then it's done the job and you can't complain.

I'm very much in favour of knowing your own mind and not immediately surrendering the care of your mental wellbeing to a professional who only 'knows' you in the loosest sense. Especially given that there are so many misdiagnosed cases and relatively little consensus between mental health practioners.

I suppose there are certain circumstances in which it's the best option, however.

 

[maxalfie]

Due to the quality of gear dropping down again lately I have started to use my methadone again each day.
Jeez it doesn't half make me feel drowsy and difficult to get up in the mornings,I can't remember it affecting me like this before.
I think this year I may look into switching over to Subutex and see how I get on with that.
Gonna have to do some research about it as my DSP have never even mentioned it as an option to me.

 

[Mailmonkey]

^ Ha, thanks for the vicarious venting. Saved me some typing there.

The thing is, I pretty much have no experience or qualifications in anything else & even getting a job labouring round here right now would be a struggle. If I left or got sacked from this job the only thing I could get is more call centre work, which obviously defeats the point.

Get on the post mate! You'd fuckin love it.

You sort your mail, then you're out on yer own, no fucker breathin down your neck,get a nice little van with a sound system in it, free boots and shoes and uniform, and the job keeps you outside and healthy.

 

[parttime crackhead]

A friend of mine just started as a posty not long ago actually. He seems to quite enjoy it, as did a different mate who previously did it for a while. I think my fucked shoulder would stop me from being able to carry bags about though.

Plus the area you get stung with around here when you're new isn't the best. None of this popping in for a cup of tea, or stopping off at home for a fly joint like you do. More a case of getting chased down the road by a mad bam because you've not got his giro lol.


My mate's just posted this picture of his (pretty much new-born) niece on FB & is getting pure abuse for it haha. Captioned with "The wee yin's on the snout already!"

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