Random MSN Gibberings LXIX: Open your mouth, here's your money

[Myshkin]

That'll be my demonic familiars up to their old antics.

Still, that sounds a right pain in the arse Mailmonkey. Almost as much as a pain in the arse as constip... NO! I refuse to allow this to continue!

 

[Jabberwocky]

Right, are we quite finished? :D

you never can quite tell with lactulose.

sorry- really couldn't resist.

what an arse mailmonkey.... hope you at least have a spare...

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

Whenever i'm in trouble I just drink a few times the recommended dosage of lactulose and voila. It's just sugar...

 

[YellowPolkaDotHalo]

Slough is cheaper and 5 mins away.. Although Slough means 'pit', lol , these days it seems to be flowering and has a beautiful multi culturing vibe at the moment.. loads of Tibetans in Britwell lately which makes things seem kinda
Buddhisty and chilled..
Britwell, Dedworth, Slough, Iver .. cheap as chips...

( check out the local papers which are probs online.. Slough Observer/Leader.. Windsor Observer/Leader etc)

 

[Marmalade]

i'm really sorry but i just don't think this is true. using laxatives to help lose weight is really really dangerous. if you are at a point where essentially you don't shit naturally anymore, you either need a stomach specialist or are quite severely anorexic. it is not good. if the latter i can tell you from experience the next step on this road: fecal incontinence. on the plus side it'll only happen every 7-10 days. days 8-10 are a total arse if you have to leave the house though.

you may feel like you're not doing any damage but you are. i had subclinical eating disorders for the decade before mine blew up big style and all those little lapses really contributed to how quickly and dramatically my health degenerated when i gave myself away to the disease inside me. just please please please look after yourself. being told at 20 that your biological age is 60 is not fun. and i never even got thin.

Well, as we are both speaking from our own experiences, different perspectives are pretty much inevitable.

But, not true? What's not true? That it occasionally helps with my diet, when I'm in uber diet mode? [that's the bit you quoted so i'm making an assumption it's what you're commenting on - if not please correct me]

You haven't got the information you need to make that confirmation about me.

That it's possibly an unhealthy method and can create other health problems? That's something entirely different, and something I don't disagree with.

However, your experiences are not mine, and vice versa. And situations and their effects are different depending on how they're managed by the individual [how prepared for them they are/knowing what to expect/knowing how to counteract etc]. Anyone assuming to know mine [experience/effects] given the limited info I've posted, is making a judgement they're not informed enough to make.

I make informed choices, research what I choose to do very thoroughly, and understand the possible risks involved, as Im sure you do, and like you, have a wealth of first hand experience to tie in with that, gained from both trial and error and long-term/short-term outcomes. Sometimes I choose not to take the most healthy option, because I can, and I'm good at managing those risks and side-effects that inevitably come with that choice. in the same way i choose to take drugs & other substances that often come with unhealthy side effects and risks. I'm good at managing those too

On a separate note, not all my choices are totally premeditated, and I fuck up royally with tons of stuff unrelated to what we're talking about, and suffer the consequences and life goes on etc etc.

Genuine in dealing with whatever problems laxatives have left you with

 

[Jabberwocky]

i was referring to the implication that laxatives can be used as an aid if a diet geared towards weight loss is causing you constipation. the only way i can see a healthy diet causing constipation is if you're eating so little that rather than not being able to shit, you just don't have any shit in you.

the information you gave is this: when you are uber dieting you are not shitting, and you seem to attribute not shitting to not having any food inside you. this is an unhealthy level of restriction IMO. no healthy weight loss diet will leave you that empty.

i can't stop you following an ed path, but i can certainly point out to other members that if you're eating so little you need laxatives to shit then some outside help might be needed.

i don't presume to know your experiences but have years of experience in ed support groups and the a few months in IP so i do in general have a good idea about how most things which can be abused as part of an ED can fuck you up. i can't possibly compare the peopel sufffering in those situations experiences to yours but i can see a few parallels and my brain just shouts STOP DONT GO THERE DONT THINK ABOUT IT.

so can we agree to disagree i'm finding this really triggering.

edit- oh yeah, never happened to me personally but knew someone who abused laxatives and ended up FECAL VOMITING. i hope they were exaggerating but don't think they were, though the good news is you have about 10 years of hardcore ed behaviours before you're at risk of that.

 

[Glitched]

I remember reading on BL a while ago that a member on here had a friend with an opiate addiction so bad it made them that constipated that they had to carry around an apple corer around with them in case they pood so they could relieve the pain that way!

I can't remember which member said that but I remember it being someone that I thought wouldn't make it up. That must be hurrendous to be that constipated that the only way to poo without ripping yourself a new arsehole is to take the core out of it all the time whilst pooing!

 

[Marmalade]

then our difference of opinion began where you made the assumption about constipation. I never inferred that I had constipation, or used it for that purpose. Nor did I imply i wasn't shitting. that's another assumption you made

Like I said, you didn't have the information you needed in order to make a call on my situation, and based it on assumption.

[edit]
I don't use laxitives to lose weight, that's another assumption. I lose weight by reducing my calorie intake, and choose specific foods to aid this. Ontop of that, to counteract the effects of reducing food intake, I use a particular specific product called Lactalose, which has a similar effect to other laxitives, but works in a totally different way and can be used for other reasons not covered by sennas. it has a very different effect to senna's and similar.

[edit] And It's great that other people can gain from your experiences, so whatever you choose to share for the benefit of others here is a positive thing.

I responded because I felt it necessary to inform about the lactalose specifics so that others can see the difference between that and other laxatives. leaving it at that is certainly fine by me

 

[Jabberwocky]

I find it does help with the diet occasionally tho, just to keep things moving when there's not enough food to do the job.

so sorry, this is the point of my misunderstanding. really don't know how else to interpret it so not gonna bother. implicit in this sentence are: constipation and using laxatives to help dieting.

edit, just saw your edit. i give up. lose weight however you like, i interpreted what you said as implying laxatives can help with unpleasant side effects from too little food intake, i'm not thick, so others might. i am overly sensitive in this area due to my own expeirences, but please just be aware, you may think what you're doing is ok but i've seen the effects of those behaviours escalating out of control and it is heartbreaking. so don't let it escalate and try to think whether what you're saying can be interpreted as 'laxatives help diets.' please, just look after yourself.

 

[Mr Smokes Blunts.]

i was referring to the implication that laxatives can be used as an aid if a diet geared towards weight loss is causing you constipation. the only way i can see a healthy diet causing constipation is if you're eating so little that rather than not being able to shit, you just don't have any shit in you.

the information you gave is this: when you are uber dieting you are not shitting, and you seem to attribute not shitting to not having any food inside you. this is an unhealthy level of restriction IMO. no healthy weight loss diet will leave you that empty.

i can't stop you following an ed path, but i can certainly point out to other members that if you're eating so little you need laxatives to shit then some outside help might be needed.

i don't presume to know your experiences but have years of experience in ed support groups and the a few months in IP so i do in general have a good idea about how most things which can be abused as part of an ED can fuck you up. i can't possibly compare the peopel sufffering in those situations experiences to yours but i can see a few parallels and my brain just shouts STOP DONT GO THERE DONT THINK ABOUT IT.

so can we agree to disagree i'm finding this really triggering.

edit- oh yeah, never happened to me personally but knew someone who abused laxatives and ended up FECAL VOMITING. i hope they were exaggerating but don't think they were, though the good news is you have about 10 years of hardcore ed behaviours before you're at risk of that.

You're just getting your stories mixed up with South Park:

:D