Quitting weed feeling like shit

Bruno0523

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Cant eat mood swings on top of the world one second crying feeling empty hopeless the next, its Day 2 after heavy smoking for 4 or 5 years i dont want to come out of this depressed.
This is what i wrote yeaterday on leaves reddit if it gives insight

https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/comments/3hcfzl/attempting_to_quit_after_feeling_anxiety/


Im hoping this goes away soon....

Ive been a daily smoker for 4 years or so and i was always in love with the MJ enough to want to grow it for a living im 19 but my first toke was at 12 ive had some anxiety attacks before but they were always kind of random i ran out of weed 1 day and resorted to smoking rez and began to feel anxious heart beating catching breath constantly until i reupped then i returned to smoking all day and it went away
I ran out of weed recently and the feelings returned now i began questioning if weed was my problem then i bought some but my anxiety remained at times i smoked and my problems improved other times it triggered my anxiety. Its day 4 of feeling anxious and ive decided to give it a break but this decision is tough my anxiety and this decision have made me a bit depressed crying at times. Ive returned to lexapro that my psychyatrist prescribed me when my mom had an accident that triggered my anxiety attacks throwing up heart beating etc . At times i feel confident about quitting then im thinking maybe if i just smoke once a day it will help me overcome this. I cant imagine life without weed yet my mom is bipolar with Manic attacks depression etc but she is medicated well now and is doing great. My brother smokes as much as me but doesnt feel this and i dont see him quitting soon. I decided to become a tattoo artist a couple months ago so i was smoking and drawing all day i live in brazil but im waiting for my documents to return to the usa i was working hard on my drawings until this feeling hit me. My whole day revolved around drawing and smoking.


My main concern is living a life were im not expecting a hit every time i come down and i dont want to be depressed and anxious i feel really bad bringing my mom and brother down. I cant get any drawing done and the boredom is killing me.


Thia is day 1 and i havent felt the anxiety yet But i cried and been feeling down about this decision makes me want to go and smoke with my brother i love him and my mom só much i feel bad for stupid stuff like not staying awake with my brother smoking keeping him company. The bad thoughts come and go at first i hoped it wasnt weed but now i hope it is so if i stop smoking it will go away ive had some hard times moving to brazil when my mom became sick and seeing her cry leaving my life in baltimore i thought writing this would help me feel better but its making me a bit sad. If anyone hás some advice i will be eternally grateful difficult to quit when i dont have anything to keep me busy or keep my mind off the bad.

Thanks for the consideration
 
Hi Bruno, I hope you're doing alright. What you're experiencing is very common and I'm certain it's being caused by the weed. Weed isn't addictive like hard drugs, it causes a unique kind of addiction which is what you're experiencing atm. In my experience people who become addicted to weed don't become addicted in the traditional sense, I think "confusion" is a better way of describing it than "addiction". You've described the experience perfectly, it's just the weed messing with your head. It's common to think weed is helping anxiety when it's actually making it worse.

You seem to be following a pretty clear pattern, you want to smoke weed but it doesn't really feel good anymore, the weed starts causing anxiety but you blame it on something else because weed has always made you feel better. You start to become confused as your anxiety gets worse so you keep trying to self medicate with weed. The anxiety is worse when you stop smoking so you become convinced that the weed is helping and you keep smoking to try to combat the side effects of smoking. It's pretty common for people to become confused to the point where every time they stop and their anxiety gets worse they will start smoking again without even trying to quit. So most people stuck in this cycle won't ever go more than a couple of days without smoking before they decide weed is the solution again.

The only way out is to recognize the pattern. I would recommend you don't even consider whether your anxiety is caused by anything other than weed until you've been sober for at least 6 months. I think it's a bad idea to use pharmaceuticals as well, that would be like treating a codeine addiction with heroin. I know it may seem bad and very much like a real addiction, but trust me it's not and you don't want to go down that road. You'll have to suffer for a while, but while you're suffering you shouldn't use it as an excuse to find relief, you just have to remember that you're going to have to go through this eventually and every bit of pain should be a reminder of how much worse it will be next time if you give up now. Embrace it, learn from this and if you think it's bad now that should motivate you to push through so it doesn't get any worse.
 
Hi Bruno, I hope you're doing alright. What you're experiencing is very common and I'm certain it's being caused by the weed. Weed isn't addictive like hard drugs, it causes a unique kind of addiction which is what you're experiencing atm. In my experience people who become addicted to weed don't become addicted in the traditional sense, I think "confusion" is a better way of describing it than "addiction". You've described the experience perfectly, it's just the weed messing with your head. It's common to think weed is helping anxiety when it's actually making it worse.

You seem to be following a pretty clear pattern, you want to smoke weed but it doesn't really feel good anymore, the weed starts causing anxiety but you blame it on something else because weed has always made you feel better. You start to become confused as your anxiety gets worse so you keep trying to self medicate with weed. The anxiety is worse when you stop smoking so you become convinced that the weed is helping and you keep smoking to try to combat the side effects of smoking. It's pretty common for people to become confused to the point where every time they stop and their anxiety gets worse they will start smoking again without even trying to quit. So most people stuck in this cycle won't ever go more than a couple of days without smoking before they decide weed is the solution again.

The only way out is to recognize the pattern. I would recommend you don't even consider whether your anxiety is caused by anything other than weed until you've been sober for at least 6 months. I think it's a bad idea to use pharmaceuticals as well, that would be like treating a codeine addiction with heroin. I know it may seem bad and very much like a real addiction, but trust me it's not and you don't want to go down that road. You'll have to suffer for a while, but while you're suffering you shouldn't use it as an excuse to find relief, you just have to remember that you're going to have to go through this eventually and every bit of pain should be a reminder of how much worse it will be next time if you give up now. Embrace it, learn from this and if you think it's bad now that should motivate you to push through so it doesn't get any worse.
Thanks for the help i havent felt as anxious since i stopped smoking but i still get it a bit mainly these ups and downs are so crappy along with the sad crying depressed hopeless part i get a feeling of agony inside and other moments im confident and worry free these moments dont last as long it seems also havent eaten much at all since quitting although im hungry my apetite dissapeared
 
Hi OP,
I am 18 days off weed and Im just starting to feel clear headed.
I used weed to get off oxy/black tar/crack combo but damn it was hard to
put down the weed.
I am craving a toke as I write.

it's a cliche,but it WILL get better.
time is on your side,my friend.
weed can cause serious confusion about what causes what
if you know what I'm saying.

your creativity will return.
mine hasn't yet(musician),but I hope to pick up the guitar not-stoned soon.

I have bipolar and thought weed helped with that for the longest time.
or thats what I wanted to believe so I could keep on smoking,lol.

because I've stopped before I know the weed cravings come back and there will be
times where you just have to go for a walk,make a phone call or whatever to not give in.

stay strong.best of luck.
 
Hi OP,
I am 18 days off weed and Im just starting to feel clear headed.
I used weed to get off oxy/black tar/crack combo but damn it was hard to
put down the weed.
I am craving a toke as I write.

it's a cliche,but it WILL get better.
time is on your side,my friend.
weed can cause serious confusion about what causes what
if you know what I'm saying.

your creativity will return.
mine hasn't yet(musician),but I hope to pick up the guitar not-stoned soon.

I have bipolar and thought weed helped with that for the longest time.
or thats what I wanted to believe so I could keep on smoking,lol.

because I've stopped before I know the weed cravings come back and there will be
times where you just have to go for a walk,make a phone call or whatever to not give in.

stay strong.best of luck.
Hey man thanks for taking your time to respond, the things you said were truly helpful coming from someone facing the same situation, hope your cravings go away, best of luck.
 
Day 3 i guess i woke up not as bad as yesterday but still empty sad hopeless etc i am taking 5 mg of lexapro since i quit and a cup of green tea a Day i hate these mood swings i usually feel better at night time i am worried Ill develop depression i stay át home all Day except for a run, please anything will help i am really scared of paws
 
Edit: I am re-writing this because I feel I originally came across as too aggressive in my personal hatred of weed, as a result of the horrific, destructive effects it insidiously had on my life. It can be painful looking back. It's silly to hate on a plant though. I like nature, and I like my greens. I did this damage to myself, but I could have done more. I needed help. I couldn't quit on my own, but I wouldn't admit that I had a problem. What I disagree with primarily is the happy-go-lucky, carefree attitude that society has towards cannabis use these days. "Just smoke more weed man, it never does you any harm, I smoke 'insert dick-sizing amount here' and I'm totally fine. It's not even addictive man. It's never killed anyone blah blah blah" I don't agree with how it's viewed as a separate thing altogether from the other recreational drugs, and that it's somehow healthy and doesn't need to be respected.

It's being grown to maximum potency, there are considerable risks in regards to mental health with habitual use and moderation should be exercised if you are not a medical user (like, someone with a serious physical disability or something). Weed is being grown to such intense strength, and with things like hash oil, it's almost like a research chemical to use it habitually these days. The side effects haven't been unearthed yet. I have a decade of habituated experience with weed, and I quit cold turkey 2 years ago. I quit because I started to get severe panic attacks every time I smoked, so in a sense I didn't quit weed; weed quit me. However, I had been trying to quit for around 3 or 4 years by that point, relapsing several times to almost immediate chronic fiending. I was devoted to cannabis with all my heart, until I all of a sudden began to feel like I was having a heart attack every time I smoked the tiniest puff.
I always had anxiety issues related to my weed use, but they worsened over time. I'd like to express my thoughts related to the drug, and this is going to be long, so feel free to skip over it if you'd like. I'm in no way trying to push my views of anything on anyone, but rather to articulate my experience with weed and how this experience has differed significantly from other drugs I have used. I whole-heartedly agree with the description of confusion:

All drugs by nature alter consciousness, but weed altered my personality in very significant ways. Allow me to elaborate. On opiates, I feel energized and I get relief of my chronic pain, but I'm still fundamentally myself. I am the good old me,without the usual negative baggage. My intellect is not affected, nor is the way that I socialize. I never feel like I'm "not myself" - I might be feeling low without them and in pain, I might be feeling wonderful and pain free with them (I have really bad back problems) but it's always "myself" who is experiencing this. There are ups and downs, highs and lows that come with a narcotics habit, but opiates to me are pretty much just addictive painkillers for my insane spine pain that cripples me hardcore (well I'm able to walk, cook food, stretch, do normal human stuff... but only with opiates in my body. Otherwise I'm bedridden in excruciating agony.). I was aware of the risks and consciously made the decision to develop an opiate dependency, after suffering for much too long. I do not regret trying this choice, since my quality of life has improved so much and I had no place else to turn for help, except that I wish I never sniffed 10 grams of heroin over the course of a year a long while back because it permanently raised my tolerance to the prescription pills I take orally.

On psychedelics, I might lose all conception of myself and trip balls in way stronger ways than weed would ever allow. I might be incoherent and simply blasted to outer space, or really chilled out and cosmic, depending on the dose. But at the end of the day, I'm reborn as myself, and I'm usually never happier to be my good old self again. Psychedelics have drastically altered my perception of reality permanently, but they have not really changed my personality that much. I've developed interests that I probably wouldn't have otherwise - like yoga and buddhism - but my personality has remained intact. I'm still the same dude, who tries to be laid back, is really health-food oriented and loves to cook, but has always had mental health issues (who doesn't these days...), albeit is generally an interesting character, good at math and science, loves to read. I tend to think pretty highly of myself, which I think is a good quality - self confidence is critical in this day and age - and I'm very humble and introverted. I'm fairly creative with music and the guitar. I like to lucid dream. I'm generally really comfortable with myself.

One drug that altered my personality while I was on it was Mdma. That's why I dislike it, apart from how potential brain damage. I really don't like how it changes me from my usually introverted self to an extrovert. I will make shallow friendships with strangers that never last longer than a night on that drug. Intimate connections only to find out that we share nothing in common the next day. I did really enjoy it the first few times, before I realized how shallow it was (to me of course, just my opinion). This is an example of how a drug can alter my personality drastically, since I'm usually quite reserved around people I don't know, and I'm cool with that.

When I smoke cannabis occasionally, I experience a powerful dissociative and psychedelic trip (no visuals, but that's no what tripping is for me). I found it quite mind expanding to use alone on occasion. Unfortunately, I could never control my use of cannabis for some reason. I found it so incredibly habit forming, and eventually physically addictive as well. It is the only drug I have used, apart from heroin, that I could not have lying around without using it compulsively.

When I began to use cannabis habitually, due to the addiction worsening after a while of using it occasionally, the effects of the high completely changed. I was no longer high. How could I be high, if there was no sober point of reference anymore? In this state, my personality was drastically changed. Everyone in my life could notice that I had become a different person, I mean it's kind of hard to hide it when your energy completely changes into somebody different. I lost myself. I lost interest in all my old hobbies that use to define me: guitar, astronomy, outdoors activities... my creativity was zapped. I exercised more than ever before, however, but it was pretty much due to the fact that I was so dumbed down and stupefied by the drug that I couldn't actually focus for more than 5 minutes on anything involving creativity, abstract thought, or intense concentration. "Getting jacked" was just another way to justify my addiction to myself, since superficially I appeared very healthy.

When I didn't have weed, I would become severely depressed, as a rebound effect from the euphoria I experienced while high. I began to experience powerful cravings for more and more dope. I would go to spots in the forest where I knew a lot of potheads went to smoke, and scour the forest floor for roaches. I would proceed to smoke them in my pipe, if I was lucky enough to find one. I also stole from my family, something I never thought I'd be capable of. I pawned my younger brothers possessions at one point, and didn't think twice about it. I wasn't even thinking straight, in my mind it was totally normal and acceptable to do this. This is what I'm talking about when I mention that cannabis altered my personality. Normally I have morals and values and I'm not a thief.

I've always been introverted, but a confident introvert. Weed started bringing me down, my self esteem was at an all-time low. I couldn't look a girl in the eyes. Since I was working out like a maniac, and I was a guy in college, sex should not have been a problem for me, and it never used to be but when I was a big pothead I couldn't initiate or hold a conversation with the opposite sex. This fuelled my depression which fuelled my cannabis use even more. My memory suffered big time. Prior to my dope habit, I excelled in school - moreso due to work ethic than above average intelligence. One of my strong points was relentless effort. As a pothead, it just totally killed my motivation. The abuse of the drugs zapped my creativity and initiative as well. I desperately wanted to quit, and I managed to for a few months here and there. The first month I'd be bedridden but then I would quickly improve. I'd be back to my good old self. Then a friend would offer me a take, I'd accept telling myself just this once, and within the week I'd be smoking an ounce a week again.

So essentially I was transformed from a hardworking, social, intelligent young man to a weed-obsessed fiend, beginning to suffer from anxiety and depression, unable to quit, uncomfortable in my own skin, alienated from society, extremely lazy, and confused. I lost the ability to be decisive. Even the smallest of choices made me shake with uncertainty. "should I ride my bike. Or should I do yoga? Wait... should I hit up the gym Did I roll enough joints for how long I'll be out? Fuck!!!"

Not to mention, when I had weed I'd smoke it way too fast, way more weed than needed to ward off the withdrawals (insomnia, inability to eat food, general malaise etc). Then, since I was broke due to being too lazy to work and too socially anxious to perform well in interviews, everything was put on hold as I schemed to get more money for grass. If I tried to eat something, I would be guaranteed to puke.

Quitting was the best decision I ever made. The physical withdrawal lasted a month. I puked many times during that month. It was extreme hell ince that was only one of many symptoms. My obsession lasted 6 months. Then, I smoked a very small puff and came very close to having a heart attack. I've never thought of a relapse since. I have experienced horrific PAWS (post-acute withdrawals). My panic attacks were the worst around the 6-month mark, and I was showing up at the hospital begging them for mercy, my heart visibly pounding out of my chest. Nowadays, I don't really have panic attacks anymore. It's mainly extreme generalized anxiety and a resulting insomnia. I'm definitely recovering, but my recovery is going to take many years and I'll never be able to smoke again,

So, that is my experience with chronic weed smoking over a decade (in a nutshell). I'm still recovering, and my body is still learning how to function without being bombarded by enormous quantities of the large number of chemicals in weed smoke. For the first year, I couldn't even drink a cup of green tea without having a multi-day panic attack. I've really shown a lot of improvement, and the main thing that I need to do is never smoke any amount of weed ever again. In considering the detrimental effects that cannabis abuse had on my life, it's really easy to stay away from it now. I'd be way too scared of having a heart attack to smoke a puff ever again, despite that I can handle around a milligram of acid (it's really weird that way, I just developed such an extreme negative reaction to pot).

I never knew if I should be stoned or not. I was always uncertain if I should be a pothead, which is a clear sign that something was wrong. I was always second-guessing my habitual weed smoking habit, but I kept at it because I was severely addicted.

This is moreso my experience with weed than giving you direct advice, I realize, but I think that you should take a close look at how it is affecting you. Cheers, and good luck, whether you decide it's in your best interest to quit, or to keep blazing!
 
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I'm 6 months off weed after pretty much daily use for 8 years.

You will be amazed at how much better you feel once you're off it, your motivation to do things and your enjoyment of life increases.

It's no fun at first, but once you make it past a couple of weeks it all starts to look up.
 
Day 4 didnt seem to feel better today cried a bunch feeling like shit hoping it will go away but feeling hopeless i go to sleep feeling good wake up like shit thanks for helpful words but even my family cant help me feel much better today :(
 
Hey man, I've been smoking weed and hash every day for the past 2 years and made the decision to stop for a while cause it's messing with my head. I quit 2 days ago as it's too mind fucking and expensive, but what helps me is thinking that when I'm older and I have a pension I'm gonna buy a shit ton of weed and blaze!good luck man!
 
How are you doing,Bruno?
you have a community here that have been
through it.
you will be ok.
 
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