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Quitting/Tapering Thread.
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lovepsychadelics
Bluelighter
Have been hitting it to much of late. Polysubstance abuse. Lost myself. Now just doing the whole cold turkey. Expect a couple days of hell. Not been posting much on BL as my life has gone to crap.
Stage 1: flushed anything I had left... just one and a half valium 5 mgs. Being a drug pig one's stash vanishes rapidly...
Stage 2: Inform all friends who use my plan. Some give support, some just ignore me, so no longer can obtain anything. Delete all phone numbers FB contacts etc.
Stage 3: Well I'm day 2 of detox and it's fucking hell on earth. Got some sober friends who are keeping in touch with me and giving moral support.
Stage 4: I'm hoping that will occur in a couple more days. The withdrawls ended. Me being sober and moving on with my life. Drugs are hell. Being an addict is shit. Life is more then being fucked off your face 24/7...
Stage 1: flushed anything I had left... just one and a half valium 5 mgs. Being a drug pig one's stash vanishes rapidly...
Stage 2: Inform all friends who use my plan. Some give support, some just ignore me, so no longer can obtain anything. Delete all phone numbers FB contacts etc.
Stage 3: Well I'm day 2 of detox and it's fucking hell on earth. Got some sober friends who are keeping in touch with me and giving moral support.
Stage 4: I'm hoping that will occur in a couple more days. The withdrawls ended. Me being sober and moving on with my life. Drugs are hell. Being an addict is shit. Life is more then being fucked off your face 24/7...
lovepsychadelics
Bluelighter
My alternative's to substance. Exercise, two sports I love but have been neglecting due to being a head case. That and art... my passion and gift. Work, I love my job. Family. Good enough reasons for anyone to quit. Much love to all and to those quitting/cleaning up their lives good luck, you can do it.
^ all the best man.
It was obvious you've been caning it pretty fucking hard with all manner of drugs.
Top effort on informing all your mates - that's the best decision of all, I think.
And remember, we're all yer friends here too buddy.
Be well
It was obvious you've been caning it pretty fucking hard with all manner of drugs.
Top effort on informing all your mates - that's the best decision of all, I think.
And remember, we're all yer friends here too buddy.
Be well
Here we go again,
The last time I tried my taper I went well for a week, then I had a really shitty traumatising thing happen at work and so I went straight back on. Since then, i nearly went to do a sub treatment. I was clean for about 40 hours, I went in and said I didnt seem sick enough and so they wouldnt induct me. So I went even longer the next time, over 48 hours. I decided not to go ahead with it as I really wasn't feeling that bad so I thought it would be better to do my own taper than be stuck on subs. Very terrified of that shit.
So now Im going to start my taper tomorrow. Talking about codeine here by the way. I plan to do the same as last time, 1/2 each of panafen plus and panadeine extra, three doses a day of about 130mg each to start with. I think its better when I post on here, it makes it a bit more of a commitment. Im going overseas to Thailand in less than 2 months, so I have to be sorted out by then.
Fear has always been the major factor of doing this, so Im just going to keep positive and not look for any reason to scare myself, I can do this. Even just for the sake of my liver which im very worried about, cwe or not.
Ive found that my morning does is the only one that does anything anyway. Any other does on the same day does nothing. I have to really sit and concentrate to enjoy it anyway, really weird drug. Its definitely not worth it.
I amost did something really stupid the other week and try heroin for the first time. I had some ice for the first time in years, and I almost did heroin for the comedown. I really tried hard to get it too.
Anyway, tomorrow it begins.
The last time I tried my taper I went well for a week, then I had a really shitty traumatising thing happen at work and so I went straight back on. Since then, i nearly went to do a sub treatment. I was clean for about 40 hours, I went in and said I didnt seem sick enough and so they wouldnt induct me. So I went even longer the next time, over 48 hours. I decided not to go ahead with it as I really wasn't feeling that bad so I thought it would be better to do my own taper than be stuck on subs. Very terrified of that shit.
So now Im going to start my taper tomorrow. Talking about codeine here by the way. I plan to do the same as last time, 1/2 each of panafen plus and panadeine extra, three doses a day of about 130mg each to start with. I think its better when I post on here, it makes it a bit more of a commitment. Im going overseas to Thailand in less than 2 months, so I have to be sorted out by then.
Fear has always been the major factor of doing this, so Im just going to keep positive and not look for any reason to scare myself, I can do this. Even just for the sake of my liver which im very worried about, cwe or not.
Ive found that my morning does is the only one that does anything anyway. Any other does on the same day does nothing. I have to really sit and concentrate to enjoy it anyway, really weird drug. Its definitely not worth it.
I amost did something really stupid the other week and try heroin for the first time. I had some ice for the first time in years, and I almost did heroin for the comedown. I really tried hard to get it too.
Anyway, tomorrow it begins.
Well its day one. Ive got through the most major hurdle for me which is not putting off quitting for another day.
Few stomach issues, but cant complain about anything. Having my small doses, had 2 already. Not enough to get high or feel anything.
I wont post every day, but maybe at the start.
Few stomach issues, but cant complain about anything. Having my small doses, had 2 already. Not enough to get high or feel anything.
I wont post every day, but maybe at the start.
infectedmushroom
Bluelighter
Best of luck Only, you can definitely do it mate.
Out of curiosity, how much codeine were you taking daily?
IME simply going cold turkey is the only way I ever kicked the physical dependence. That was from 600mg a day, and yes, it was very unpleasant for four or five days, but after that I was quite okay (physically, not so much mentally.)
I wouldn't recommend dosing three times a day. Simply quit all opiate use and get it over with.
Try to go for long walks, drink lots of water, take a multi-vitamin, eat well, don't over-do the lope....etc.
Out of curiosity, how much codeine were you taking daily?
IME simply going cold turkey is the only way I ever kicked the physical dependence. That was from 600mg a day, and yes, it was very unpleasant for four or five days, but after that I was quite okay (physically, not so much mentally.)
I wouldn't recommend dosing three times a day. Simply quit all opiate use and get it over with.
Try to go for long walks, drink lots of water, take a multi-vitamin, eat well, don't over-do the lope....etc.
Hey mate, thanks for the reply.
A does for me is 600mg, and I was having 2 or 3 doses a day. however the only dose Id get an effect from was the morning dose, rarely any other dose on the same day.
Im taking around 3-400 mg split into 3 doses spread through the day. This is enough to keep me out of WD, but im not getting high at all. That was the first hurdle, not getting high today. I did that, didnt crave it, went to the gym and now the days over so I made it. Im going to continue that this week and then drop next week. Im pretty sure this is the best way for me, Ill keep getting back daily for a bit.
Cheers
A does for me is 600mg, and I was having 2 or 3 doses a day. however the only dose Id get an effect from was the morning dose, rarely any other dose on the same day.
Im taking around 3-400 mg split into 3 doses spread through the day. This is enough to keep me out of WD, but im not getting high at all. That was the first hurdle, not getting high today. I did that, didnt crave it, went to the gym and now the days over so I made it. Im going to continue that this week and then drop next week. Im pretty sure this is the best way for me, Ill keep getting back daily for a bit.
Cheers
popeyes mate
Bluelighter
infectedmushroom
Bluelighter
Do what you believe is best for yourself, Only. What works for one, may or may not work for another.
Keep at the gym, that's for sure. Exercise and diet will be your best friend in recovering as quickly as possible.
Sending you strength and will.
Keep at the gym, that's for sure. Exercise and diet will be your best friend in recovering as quickly as possible.
Sending you strength and will.
Hey guyssss
Cheers. For some reason I didnt send my post yesterday. Anyway, today and yesterday are the same. 3 doses of about 130mg odd, not getting high or even feeling anything except normal. Pretty sore from the gym but bearable, went again tonight and I started getting that awesome feeling back again, where I am changing. Getting out of the cycle.
I threw my seedy CWE containers out, that felt good. Also found , even though i dont have money, I dont really need any which is sweet. I suppose it all goes to codeine, alcohol and ciggs. Havent been drinking because it doesnt really make me feel that good anyway and will just make me crave codeine. And I smoke a lot less when I dont do those things. Ive also got this e cig thing and some really tasty vape liquid with nicotine in it that I got from UK, so fukn nice compared to smoking cig.
Anyway, going good. No terrible things to write home about. I might take the same dose each day till im settled in and then start dropping every three days from monday.
!~!~!~1
Cheers. For some reason I didnt send my post yesterday. Anyway, today and yesterday are the same. 3 doses of about 130mg odd, not getting high or even feeling anything except normal. Pretty sore from the gym but bearable, went again tonight and I started getting that awesome feeling back again, where I am changing. Getting out of the cycle.
I threw my seedy CWE containers out, that felt good. Also found , even though i dont have money, I dont really need any which is sweet. I suppose it all goes to codeine, alcohol and ciggs. Havent been drinking because it doesnt really make me feel that good anyway and will just make me crave codeine. And I smoke a lot less when I dont do those things. Ive also got this e cig thing and some really tasty vape liquid with nicotine in it that I got from UK, so fukn nice compared to smoking cig.
Anyway, going good. No terrible things to write home about. I might take the same dose each day till im settled in and then start dropping every three days from monday.
!~!~!~1
junkie skumbag
Bluelighter
So I've decided to come off poppy seed tea with no help from subbies or mdone..I've booked a trip to Bali in August and aim to be completely clean (meaning not going into psychical withdrawals) by the time I get to Bali,will still be using party drugs as I'm pretty good in not forming a habit to them but opiates are another story...nothing better after a hard day at work than a nice FAT shot of smack 
So I've managed to go from 5-7 kilos of seeds a week to 2-4 kilos,next week I will be cutting back to 1-2 kilos but I'm starting a new job next week so may need to play up JUST THIS ONCE on my quitting 8(
So I've managed to go from 5-7 kilos of seeds a week to 2-4 kilos,next week I will be cutting back to 1-2 kilos but I'm starting a new job next week so may need to play up JUST THIS ONCE on my quitting 8(
Well done mate, hope you make some progress. I am kinda doing for the same reason, Im going to sth east asia in 6 weeks so I dont want to leave it til the last minute.
Last night was a bit hard to sleep, but I put it more down to the muscle soreness from the gym. Im doing classes where they push you pretty hard, cant move my arms and I did legs yesterday so I have the restless legs due to the soreness. Anyway it should pass within a few days.
Same again today so far, dont feel any adverse reactions, settled in nicely into this taper.
Feelin good
Last night was a bit hard to sleep, but I put it more down to the muscle soreness from the gym. Im doing classes where they push you pretty hard, cant move my arms and I did legs yesterday so I have the restless legs due to the soreness. Anyway it should pass within a few days.
Same again today so far, dont feel any adverse reactions, settled in nicely into this taper.
Feelin good
junkie skumbag
Bluelighter
That's good bro glad to hear! Keep it up...managed to score some Valium and lyrica from ma doc today I'll be using Valium for work insted of fucking up my tapering process and dosing a full kilo of seeds,I've also split up my poppy tea (I do 3 wash's) 1st day I drink my 2 cups from the first and strongest rinse 2nd day I drink the 3rd and the 3rd day I drink my 2nd I'm yet expirence any psychical WDs YET
Well,
Was going pretty good. On my next attempt I'll have to ban the booze for a month at least also. .
And the gym classes, it's crazy weight class where they push you very hard lift ing weights. Only after a week could I walk properly again. Too much.
Anyway I did 5 days without getting high, doing anice taper. Got drunk, etc rgbe ended up doing a cwe.
I've done one a day, but the weird thing is that I've been getting nauseous when I do it. Like, not extremely.but I've nearly spewed once and just feel shit. I''ve never got that in a year of taking it.
What do you think? My liver doesn't hurt..
fuck this disgusting shit.
Was going pretty good. On my next attempt I'll have to ban the booze for a month at least also. .
And the gym classes, it's crazy weight class where they push you very hard lift ing weights. Only after a week could I walk properly again. Too much.
Anyway I did 5 days without getting high, doing anice taper. Got drunk, etc rgbe ended up doing a cwe.
I've done one a day, but the weird thing is that I've been getting nauseous when I do it. Like, not extremely.but I've nearly spewed once and just feel shit. I''ve never got that in a year of taking it.
What do you think? My liver doesn't hurt..
fuck this disgusting shit.
infectedmushroom
Bluelighter
I'm sure your livers fine, Only.
Well done for making it so far. Get back on that (sober) horse ASAP - you can do it! I was in a similar situation to you.
I had a six day detox, and on the sixth night, when I thought it'd be fine to do so, I got drunk. Woke the next day obviously craving opiates to abate the hangover, and guess what, I got high. But, I got straight back to working on recovery and didn't give up.
It's a hard lesson most people don't tell you or know, that alcohol is an opiate-addict in recoveries WORST enemy for at least the first month or two.
Just gonna throw out a theory here that you're getting nauseas because your "true inner self" knows what you're putting into yourself is poison, and as such, you aren't enjoying it as much. It's possibly just psychosomatic, is what I'm saying.
Well done for making it so far. Get back on that (sober) horse ASAP - you can do it! I was in a similar situation to you.
I had a six day detox, and on the sixth night, when I thought it'd be fine to do so, I got drunk. Woke the next day obviously craving opiates to abate the hangover, and guess what, I got high. But, I got straight back to working on recovery and didn't give up.
It's a hard lesson most people don't tell you or know, that alcohol is an opiate-addict in recoveries WORST enemy for at least the first month or two.
Just gonna throw out a theory here that you're getting nauseas because your "true inner self" knows what you're putting into yourself is poison, and as such, you aren't enjoying it as much. It's possibly just psychosomatic, is what I'm saying.
junkie skumbag
Bluelighter
So fuck quitting I broke up with my gf and have been going pretty hard since meth oxynorm pharm stimulants ofcourse full kilo wash's of poppy seed soon to be a fuckload of MDMA and cocaine...having a great time being single 
but sucks at times...so bored when people arnt over = I use more to relive my Bordem so high on oxy and Valium right now :/
but sucks at times...so bored when people arnt over = I use more to relive my Bordem so high on oxy and Valium right now :/
popeyes mate
Bluelighter
Feeling pretty good about things at the moment. Realised I may have turned the corner when I was scraping up the last of the coin I had available to buy a Fitbit (for exercise) and not so I could buy a couple of points.
Its been about 4 weeks since I last smoked meth, and even with a new source very close by I have been able to have cash at my disposal but put it towards the right things.
I know my relationship, parenting, skin, and general wellbeing are all better for it. Have also done more exercise in the last week than Id possibly done in the last year.
Its been about 4 weeks since I last smoked meth, and even with a new source very close by I have been able to have cash at my disposal but put it towards the right things.
I know my relationship, parenting, skin, and general wellbeing are all better for it. Have also done more exercise in the last week than Id possibly done in the last year.
infectedmushroom
Bluelighter
Good on ya popeyes. It's the little lifestyle changes that make the biggest difference in the long run, I reckon. Having shit to do that has nothing to do with drugs...well, it still kinda does, cause you're getting natural endorphin's, but getting high the right way.
Exercise feels good, no? I've found it's the best reason I have not to get high. If I get high then i'm not gonna do exercise, and because it makes me feel better about myself then getting high does, in the short and long run..."I'd rather not get high today."
I wish it was like that everyday, but it's still one of the best rationalizations/reasons/motivators for any addict, I reckon.
Exercise feels good, no? I've found it's the best reason I have not to get high. If I get high then i'm not gonna do exercise, and because it makes me feel better about myself then getting high does, in the short and long run..."I'd rather not get high today."
I wish it was like that everyday, but it's still one of the best rationalizations/reasons/motivators for any addict, I reckon.
popeyes mate
Bluelighter
Thanks infectedmushroom. Been going really hard with the exercise and yeah breaking a sweat because Im jogging feels wicked compaired to sweating because Ive just smoked a couple of points.
Been walking on average 15kms a day for the last week and my cardio fitness has improved already.
Even though I have always managed to keep a handle on my use (spanning about a decade) I was starting to REALLY hate the days after the binge. Not the usual comedown etc.. But saying no to things I really wanted to do like seeing old mates etc but wouldnt because I was a sweaty greasy shocking mess.
I was noticing how many (ohhh sooo many) events/functions I was attending feeling sleep deprived and basically like shit.. rather than remembering a great night on the gear.
Ive joined a walking group. I had actually bailed on what was to be my first day weeks ago as I had not slept and it was gonna be hot. Been every week since and had I done the circuit after using I would have died... or spewed at the least.
Its never too far from my thoughts.. so many triggers around all the time, but Ive quickly become obsessed with getting fit so all good.
All the best to everyone. Its hard. But achievable. Good luck.
Been walking on average 15kms a day for the last week and my cardio fitness has improved already.
Even though I have always managed to keep a handle on my use (spanning about a decade) I was starting to REALLY hate the days after the binge. Not the usual comedown etc.. But saying no to things I really wanted to do like seeing old mates etc but wouldnt because I was a sweaty greasy shocking mess.
I was noticing how many (ohhh sooo many) events/functions I was attending feeling sleep deprived and basically like shit.. rather than remembering a great night on the gear.
Ive joined a walking group. I had actually bailed on what was to be my first day weeks ago as I had not slept and it was gonna be hot. Been every week since and had I done the circuit after using I would have died... or spewed at the least.
Its never too far from my thoughts.. so many triggers around all the time, but Ive quickly become obsessed with getting fit so all good.
All the best to everyone. Its hard. But achievable. Good luck.