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Quitting/Tapering Thread.

^ halif, go to some third rate media outlet.
Australia has more than you could poke a rolled-up copy of The Australian at.
Dodgy doctors pushing narcotics. Headline news, that. These shit-slingers will print anything that smears a reputation or two...especially if there are sex, drugs or violence involved.
"He kept telling me to take addictive narcotics - I've never even smoked marijuana".

Sorry, that's a very vindictive, facetious suggestion.
Good people get fucked by the media all the time. Why not an evil prick for once?
 
The media wouldn't run it. While truth is now a defence against defamation nationwide (unfortunately), they would need to be absolutely sure they could prove the claims are true before destroying the reputation of a professional psychiatrist.
 
It was a sardonic joke, but surely there is some kind of recourse for malpractice....then again - psychological harm is incredibly difficult to prove (in terms of workplace safety, in my case).

It's a cruel world, and much of the medical establishment is as fervently prejudiced against drug users as anyone could conceivably be.
I'll stop derailing this shit and wish all you kickers and taperers out there all the very best in your personal battles of will.
Get that autonomy back, its empowering...nauseating, painful, crazy-making as it may be. You can do it.
 
Yeah, I know your humour SPacey, don't worry. I would never stoop to that level (going to Today TOnight or some waste of space).

Like I was saying, I don't want to ruin anyone out of personal spite and have dropped it from my mind. I've had much worse things said to me by people of higher calibre, and I'm not made of glass. But I just feel it's a responsibility to make an official note of it. If I don't, it feels like watching a person getting violently attacked on the street outside my home, and just closing the blinds and turning up the music.

I'm not overly concerned with the outcome of my letter and actions. I just feel I need to do it.

And yeah, I'll stop de-railing the quitting thread, too. Sorry guys and girls.
 
spacejunk said:
"He kept telling me to take addictive narcotics - I've never even smoked marijuana".
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You're a funny prick.

Halif you were right. Nearing the end of day 7 and I'm really seeing the light at the end or the tunnel. Starting to feel some energy & motivation that I haven't felt since 2011.

If this insomnia fucked off then I'd be laughing (figuratively). I could sleep 12 hours a day on PST. I'm averaging about 2 hours at the moment. Let's hope this passes soon.

Cheers for the support everyone, W/D are a dark and lonely time so forums like this help.
 
Psychiatry is more of a pseudo science than a traditional scientific field. There is much speculation and little hard data. Drugs are prescribed to treat symptoms of illnesses we really know very little about. Compare psychiatry to cardiology. Cardiology is black and white. The disease or pathology is identifiable physically, there are treatments that will resolve or manage the pathology of disease and do so with complete knowledge of the physiology of the heart muscle. Psychiatry is a lot of theory with some evidence that indicates these things may be correct such as schizophrenia. There is identifiable, measurable and testable increased levels of dopamine present in someone suffering schizophrenia's brain but as to exactly why these symptoms occur there is conjecture ie genetics, childhood illness, substance use etc. It may be one or all of these. So a cardiologist looks at a disease and makes a diagnosis. A psychiatrist examines a patient and makes an assumption based on the individuals symptoms and presentation.

I can't believe the psych was trying to push lithium onto you on the first meeting. This means he was trying to prescribe a drug based on his own assumption of what your symptoms were within 30 minutes of meeting you. He most likely made a diagnosis of bi-polar. Lithium is the last resort drug used when sodium valproate and other mood stabilizers have been unsuccessful. You have to have lithium levels taken regularly as the therapeutic level of lithium is very narrow and excessive lithium in the blood stream is highly toxic.

I hope you do find this thread helpful to you efforts towards sobriety Halif. Seems like a lot of people who post on here support you, even if we are just online unknowns lol. Maybe see a different psychiatrist one with a bit more empathy and less fast draw with the prescription pad. Psychologists are great to turn up to a few session discounted thanks to the Australian government and just let everything out to some random who is professional and ethically bound to keep things confidential. As a bonus you probably will not run into them outside the therapy session.

To catching fish great job day 7. I'm glad your getting return of your motivation and energy levels. I'm sure you have a lot of support both in RL and here on BL. There are many here who have been there with a substance or two and we all fully support your effort towards sober living. From here on in the main battle is maintaining sobriety and not relapsing. I've relapsed so many times it's almost a joke, longest I've been substance free since 14 is 2 years. 2 years out of the last 2 decades not real good when you look at it that way. I guess each time you get a bit closer to stopping drug abuse. I use a lot more responsibly than what I used to but now my issue is binges. I also agree with you about nutty psychiatrists, I've come across a great number of ego maniacs, psychopaths and nutters who were themselves psychiatrist diagnosing others conditions while maintaining that they were in perfect mental health.
 
Starting to feel some energy & motivation that I haven't felt since 2011.
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Yeah, that's the good bit. After days of hell which feel like weeks, any sign of something positive is a booster. And how's this for encouragement: That energy and motivation? That's you. That's the real thing right there. If you can keep going and take care of yourself that energy will grow and you'll be ecstatic to know that feeling OK is your natural birth right. You deserve it, man. You've done the hardest part of the acute stage. There may still be psychological things to figure out, but you'll be so much better equipped to deal with them now, having tapped into the tip of your own wellbeing.

Lovepsychdelics: thank you so much for your supportive words. I'll PM you so as not to fill up this thread with my stories=D
 
Hi thank you for your help and comments im going to taper a little longer then go ct. Will Write when i start my ct and let you all know how i am doing good luck everyone else x
 
Pls based god let me sleep - one hour or for the rest of eternity. Somebody let me crawl into their womb to let me grow backwards into a baby and then an almond sized foetus and finally a dick tadpole (can't remember the technical term)
 
Oh, shit, yeah coke or hard stims are utter horror with residual WDs taunting you. I don't blame you for doing that coke because I imagine you just wanted to feel half-decent for a change, but I hope you have a benzo on hand. Riding out a stim crash on top of WDs is very nearly the worst feeling ever.

Jesus H Christ, Fishy... just... hang in there.
 
Yeah it wasn't smart. I went out with friends had a fair bit to drink and was feeling decent. Unfortunately someone busted out the rack and turning down free rack isn't easy - especially when you are quite intoxicated. Had no benzos or anything. It blew.

I'm alright now. Pretty scattered but I didn't go to sleep last night. Hopefully I'll be able to get a few hours sleep tonight and wake up feeling better.
 
Been getting into the bad habit of using opiates + benzos + stims too much. Had been off all of these for ages, and then managed to use in moderation for a good while.

Just at the point of realization that I'm not using in moderation, I'm abusing. Kind of crept up on me. Feeling like I can't rationalize my use anymore because it's starting to impact on my life.

Plan -

Start watering down my etizolam. Don't order more.

PST - figure out how little I can get away with before WD's.

Dexies - Talk to Doctor. Might need to do daily or bi-daily pickup :\ . Meant to be starting some study soon and can't afford to run out half-way through the week.

Funny that 6 months ago I was feeling I'd need some dexies and a little bit of benzo for going back to school...and how much easier it'd be with these 'aids' - turns out I would have been better off with neither.

Kind of at that sub-clinical addiction stage where it's nowhere near full blown addict but significant enough to impact without having the major negatives. Just got to make sure it doesn't stretch out into something more serious.

Should probably just stop it all. It won't be that bad...I've come off way bigger habits of benzos and subutex in the past it just seems like that was so long ago, can't remember exactly how I did it.
 
Well im on 48 hours without codeine. Seems as though my tapper has worked as symptoms are not half as bad as they were when i went cold turkey off of a high dose. I havent had much sleep the restless legs are bad but not unbareable. Ive had no other symptoms except a bit sweating and anxiety a little. i know i have a long road a head of me but im feeling positive. Just very tired from lack of sleep hopefully that will go away in time. Ive been using highlands rls tablets and taking all vitamins especially iron. Ive also had 2 diazepam. Any other help let me know? Espeically with the sleeping part.

J x
 
jadehick92 said:
Well im on 48 hours without codeine. Seems as though my tapper has worked as symptoms are not half as bad as they were when i went cold turkey off of a high dose. I havent had much sleep the restless legs are bad but not unbareable. Ive had no other symptoms except a bit sweating and anxiety a little. i know i have a long road a head of me but im feeling positive. Just very tired from lack of sleep hopefully that will go away in time. Ive been using highlands rls tablets and taking all vitamins especially iron. Ive also had 2 diazepam. Any other help let me know? Espeically with the sleeping part.

J x
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Well done. Insomnia sucks but hopefully it'll pass soon.

Best of luck.

CF
 
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