quitting smoking

[WitchfinderGeneral]

^ I've heard quite a few people rave about champix, most of them are back smoking now though.

Also there is a risk of suicidal ideation whilst on them. Just the other day when I was in the psych ward I was in there with a lady who had been on champix and had tried to kill herself.

She said they kill the cravings, but it's a matter of staying off the cigs when the pills finish. I was not aware of that side effect. Surely it can't be common?

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ I'm not sure of how common, there may be studies out there but I just woke up... it was enough for the FDA to issue a warning about though.

I think it's something to consider if you already suffer from depression and are considering champix for smoking cessation.

 

[mused]

My doctor back in 2008 I think It was trialed me on a Champix was having really Good Results ,,,Went from about 40 or so cigs a day down to around 5 to 8 a day But by the third weak things got ...Weird to say the least ..... I have had some history of depression and at least One Psychotic episode back in 1998 .............But smoke Pot regulary .Some mdma use occasional LSD and More commonly lsa. alchol etc ....//.....Must be a powerful chemical in champix to reduce nictone addiction that Swiftly ..........

 

[mused]

If iT works for you, stick with it ..can be a good thing

 

[expothead]

side effects? lol. welcome to the world of nicotine withdrawal.

I second the tapering off method as kingpin007 suggested.

Also, don't be discouraged by your failure. Without wanting to sabotage any future abstinence, chances are you will fail a few more times before you get it out of your system.

Hypnotism worked for my parents. (the second or third attempt)

 

[bit_pattern]

Champix works but, yeah, I'm back on the cigs after four months. For me, it's a case of terminal curiosity, I started to wonder what nicotine would feel like after four months of being clean - needless to say it felt GOOD. The process goes something like this: Hmm, nicotine! "Can I have a drag", then its "can I have a cig", and that quickly degenerates to "Go buy your own, I'm sick of giving them to you, cheapskate bitch!", to "Can I have a pack of Winfield Red 20's kthxbye." Smoking bongs didn't help either, and I can't carry my vap around with me wherever I go.

I think, ultimately, breaking an addiction is as much about saying no every time, not just getting through the withdrawals. I still think Champix is a wonderful tool but when I started taking it again (never finished the full course so still had a pack and half left, and you can only get one subsidised script a year on the PBS) I wasn't as committed to going through that first 48 hours, so kept smoking well into the second week. So instead I've decided to just smoke for a bit longer and keep a pack on reserve for when I am properly motivated (ie. my lungs hurt so bad and my heart flutters like I'm about to have a heart attack) to just say "fuck it" and do it, get past those first 48 hours or so. At least that's the plan. The comment directly above this one though gives me a little faith, maybe you have to fail a few times to know what success is really about.

 

[MrIbis]

I was about to add, i have one word- champix, it's as good a buprenorphine is for heroin so far as it is a agonist/antagonistic drug.

But at the same time, its like anything really - if you don't really want to stop, you won't. I have a love affair with opiates, and whilst i don't do them every day... i do like to dabble.. and putting a barrier there fucks it for when im real bored. Buprenorphine never carried with it a high for me - it just regulated all the shit that regular opiate use fucked... and after cessation it's still fucked, though because of the long half life, it took a while to come on (withdrawal) and is quite prolonged, as with methadone withdrawal, yet only about 1/4 as bad.

I figure adding all that is relavant in a discussion on addiction 'cures'.