Quitting Heroin

[spyhunter2]

hey all, I am a long time lurker of bluelight, I Enjoy the very insightful information everyone provides, and the sense of help I See people get. Anyway I have been using heroin for almost 2 years now, my preferred method is smoking it. I have successfully stopped for about 2 months in january, with the worst withdrawals I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED! I UNFORTUNATELY started back up again around July and now I am smoking about half a gram to a gram a day. ANYWAY my question is this, I plan on quitting and have aquired 10 eight mg sub tablets also i have a prescription of 90 .5 mg klonipin and a script for 30 fifty mg zoloft. The ZOLOFT i take everyday but hardly ever take the klonopin, but i was reading other peoples posts and i was wondering if i split the subs in half and take half a pill a day by the time i ran out would i still have any withdrawals? And also I hear you can get withdrawals from the sub as well?? ANY advice would be much appreciated if I am doing this right? I truly want to quit and i know quitting is the easy part, staying clean is the bitch!

 

[spyhunter2]

Also I wanted to let You guys know, It has almost been 24 hours since my last dose of H. I didn't want to risk getting those precipitated withdrawals from taking the sub too early, right now i am starting to feel the wd's coming on pretty strong, cant sit still, bad stomach pangs, and severe rls... any thoughts or support would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Zerrr]

If you havent taken the sub yet I would start by only taking 1/4 or even 1/8 if possible. You'll be surprised at how little you will need to hold off withdrawals. Well, unless you have a serious habit. I'm not sure what that is in regards to smoking dope...I always used the more direct ROA.

You want to find the dose that will "hold you"(keep you from being sick without wasting any of the sub, cause its not gonna get you high anyway) and taper from there. Try to only take the sub when you really need it. Don't say to yourself" OH Shyt im gonna be sick in a few hours, better take another sub"..wait it out if you can.

You will almost def still feel sick when you run out of everything. Ive gone through WD's with sub and w/out, honestly I prefer to just taper my heroin use. Which isn't easy but it can be done.

If you don't drop off from a high dose off heroin, wd's usually are dealable...for me anyway. If your last dose was a gram or even a half gram its gonna be a nightmare.

Good luck!

 

[Missykins]

Kudos to you for wanting to quit.

I personally do not recommend using Suboxone or klonopin to withdraw from heroin without the supervision of a doctor. It's a little trickier than you think. People worry about the expense, but frankly I think seeing a doctor is cheaper than buying sub on the street. Plus if your ten pills don't cut it for you, where are you left?

www.suboxone.com is a website with info about a doctor in your area.

 

[Zerrr]

Also, if you take 4mg of sub everyday for 20 days after a physical dependence to heroin you will most definitely experience withdrawal.

 

[SkagKush]

^yup

you could do a much more effective taper with bupe...........

 

[Syd_Barret]

Kudos to you for wanting to quit.

I personally do not recommend using Suboxone or klonopin to withdraw from heroin without the supervision of a doctor. It's a little trickier than you think. People worry about the expense, but frankly I think seeing a doctor is cheaper than buying sub on the street. Plus if your ten pills don't cut it for you, where are you left?

www.suboxone.com is a website with info about a doctor in your area.

Seeing a doctor and getting a script for suboxone is not cheaper than simply buying 10 tablets off the street.
Pill for pill of course its cheaper to go through a doctor.
Now if you have insurance, thats another story.

Also, I think its perfectly acceptable to self detox with suboxone. Read up on it, ask questions, you'll be fine.
The general idea is take as little suboxone as possible over the shortest period possible in order to get off the dope.
How do you determine what the smallest amount is? trial and error

 

[Syd_Barret]

Kudos to you for wanting to quit.

I personally do not recommend using Suboxone or klonopin to withdraw from heroin without the supervision of a doctor. It's a little trickier than you think. People worry about the expense, but frankly I think seeing a doctor is cheaper than buying sub on the street. Plus if your ten pills don't cut it for you, where are you left?

www.suboxone.com is a website with info about a doctor in your area.

Wrong.
Seeing a doctor and getting a script for suboxone is not cheaper than simply buying 10 tablets off the street.


Pill for pill of course its cheaper to go through a doctor.
Now if you have insurance, thats another story.

Also, if you educate yourself about suboxone, I think its perfectly acceptable to detox yourself without a doctor.

 

[oliphill]

I wouldn't bother getting a script, it's easy to get stuck on it that way. Use what you got to detox yourself, good luck man you can do it!

 

[spyhunter2]

Hey all thanks for the replies, I am clean now, I didn't get to use any of that stuff to detox, I did a Cold Turkey withdrawal in jail, but thank you for the support.

Also Sorry my reply wasn't longer I am at the librairy and I only have 2 minutes left on this computer I will check for reply's when I get home. thanx.

 

[Pissangel]

Congratulations, you should be proud of yourself.

 

[spyhunter2]

Thanks! I am aware though that I will be an addict for the rest of my life, I just have to choose whether I want to use or not, so I am taking it one day at a time, Trying to make better decisions as I go.

 

[Zerrr]

Great news spyhunter, best of luck man.

 

[tidruid89]

Yeah man. I was never a huge fan of opiates myself (cant stand the itchy feeling) but i heard going cold turkey off of them is terrible. Kudos for getting straight. I can't even imagine kicking that in jail. Keep at it. I'm in a similar situation with booze. I hope all goes well.

 

[spyhunter2]

So here is a quick update/ I went to my doctor because I have been having panic attacks at work, It usually happens when I am surrounded by a large group of people. Which is common Around the holidays because I work retail. Anyway A couple years ago my doctor put me on xanax and klonipin for the anxiety. he wanted to put me back on them, I told him That I didn't want to take any Benzos so He suggested that I talk to a therapist. So I seen The therapist and did a lot of tests and talked with her a lot. She Diagnosed me with Bi-polar disorder and immediatly put me on Depakote 1000mg a day. I told her I was having panic attacks not personality attacks. lol. Anyway I have been taking these pills and they make me spacey as fuck. Like to the point where someone is talking to me and I am not processing what they are saying. Also They don't help with panic at all. Anyway what do you guys think I should do? Maybe see another doctor? advice please!

 

[J.Wallace]

So here is a quick update/ I went to my doctor because I have been having panic attacks at work, It usually happens when I am surrounded by a large group of people. Which is common Around the holidays because I work retail. Anyway A couple years ago my doctor put me on xanax and klonipin for the anxiety. he wanted to put me back on them, I told him That I didn't want to take any Benzos so He suggested that I talk to a therapist. So I seen The therapist and did a lot of tests and talked with her a lot. She Diagnosed me with Bi-polar disorder and immediatly put me on Depakote 1000mg a day. I told her I was having panic attacks not personality attacks. lol. Anyway I have been taking these pills and they make me spacey as fuck. Like to the point where someone is talking to me and I am not processing what they are saying. Also They don't help with panic at all. Anyway what do you guys think I should do? Maybe see another doctor? advice please!

First, congratulations on kicking Heroin!

Secondly, if the medicine is not working for you, perhaps you should research whether suddenly stopping it would have an adverse reactions. Personally, I'd google the name of the drug and find out if there is any negative symptoms from tapering or stopping it all together. My mentality is, if it's not working cut it out completely.

Don't take medicine you are not keen on taking. Simple as that. It's your body, after all.

Take care spyhunter, stay strong!