Quick suboxone question...

[hangyourhead]

I always made sure I was feeling withdrawals before I dosed any bupe. Although, I stuck to lower doses of the bupe so I could shot dope right through it and it worked just fine if I dosed lower than 2mg of sub and dosed it earlier in the day, like when I got outta bed and shit. I just never noticed any difference in the actual therapeutic effects of bupe in high doses and most others I've talked find that's the case for themselves as well. Higher doses would hold me off longer though, but I still didn't find it necessary to dose over 4-8mg personally. If it's what you need to stay well, then I completely understand

 

[Supeudol]

wow, I honestly thought I was the only one experiencing this, thank you for your input man, from what I'm reading it sounds like your just tuffing it out, correct? Diphenhydramine?!?! I thought I was the only one who did that too lol! Thanks for the well wishes and I wish you well just the same, this game sucks when you play it like we play it. And yeah I love firebirds, my first car was a 83 firebird then I had the 84 then I got a 86 camaro then I got 89 trans am gta with the LS6 package, 1 of 9000 built and I got into a police chase with it and wrecked it =( I got the firebird symbol tatt'd on my left fore arm too. whats your fav gen.?

Thats awesome man, a tattoo with the firebird symbol, and the 89 trans am gta with the LS6 package!? Sick man! I had a '78 Firebird, just the regular V8 model, with a 305 5L. My favourite gen would probably be the 96-2000's Trans AM's and Firebird Formula's. But I also like the 86-89 gen as well, its hard to say.

Anyway about the Suboxone, yeah I am basically just trying to tuff it out. I mean the Suboxone DOES help, don't get me wrong, but it sucks for pain. It does help stabilize me, somedays I take three 8mg in a day, so 24mg of Suboxone. Which IMO, is way too high of a dose. I just don't understand how a lot of BLers on here get by on like 2mg or less of Suboxone. Obviously they must have had a much smaller habit and not have hit the opioids as hard as we do. The Heroin in my City sucks, its pure garbage. I've tried it from all kinds of different sources in my City and the quality was always shitty, although I don't IV. I was sniffing the down, but it didn't get me anywhere near what Vancouver Heroin is like, or Hydromorphone.

 

[euphoricc]

sub is a crutch remember that always REMEMBER THAT ! try a lower dose ur taking huge amounts ive been on sub 6 years started 24mg never took that much just 1 8mg a day that was enough for me i shot 2 buns a day 24 mg no need at all wast of bupe ..................bupe abuse ever been in full sub withdrawl ahahhahahaah wai t till u get that shit lol ull praise bupe for ever! its the devil gets u hooked who actually stopped bupe and went on to live sober? i know none

 

[Tommyboy]

The longer you wait the better it works. I find that waiting 18-24 hours just makes me not get sicker instead of actually making me feel noticeably better. Waiting 36 hours works a lot better for me, and what I usually do is leave the suboxone at home, and I got out for a while to keep my mind off of it so I can wait the full 36 hours before dosing easier. Otherwise I'm just sitting there and my mind starts playing tricks with me making me think I am sicker than I am so that I end up dosing sooner than necessary.

The sicker you are when you dose the more room there is for improvement in your condition, so dosing when you are just a little sick can only help so much, and then it kind of leaves you in a place where increasing the dose doesn't seem to help. Bupe is a weird drug like that.

 

[hangyourhead]

The longer you wait the better it works. I find that waiting 18-24 hours just makes me not get sicker instead of actually making me feel noticeably better. Waiting 36 hours works a lot better for me, and what I usually do is leave the suboxone at home, and I got out for a while to keep my mind off of it so I can wait the full 36 hours before dosing easier. Otherwise I'm just sitting there and my mind starts playing tricks with me making me think I am sicker than I am so that I end up dosing sooner than necessary.

The sicker you are when you dose the more room there is for improvement in your condition, so dosing when you are just a little sick can only help so much, and then it kind of leaves you in a place where increasing the dose doesn't seem to help. Bupe is a weird drug like that.

Having idle time and having my mind play those tricks of being sicker than I actually am was something I was all-too-familiar with when I was on Sub maintenance. Yes, bupe is one weird fucking drug. Thank fucking god it exists in place of Methadone though! And bupe wd's are so damn drawn out, but a cakewalk to heroin IME.

 

[Iget High Sr.]

yes i agree...im a long time drug abuser and i dont think i would do that much at one time!!!

 

[Tommyboy]

I think that most people are shocked that someone would IV 16mg of suboxone not just because it's such a high dose, but also because there isn't any added euphoria when taking it in higher doses. Once you get above ~6mg sublingual (so a lot lower of a dose IV) the only difference is the higher doses is duration and blockade effect, so it's a waste to take such high doses only to increase your tolerance and make the eventual withdrawals from it worse for no reason.

 

[cire113]

I think that most people are shocked that someone would IV 16mg of suboxone not just because it's such a high dose, but also because there isn't any added euphoria when taking it in higher doses. Once you get above ~6mg sublingual (so a lot lower of a dose IV) the only difference is the higher doses is duration and blockade effect, so it's a waste to take such high doses only to increase your tolerance and make the eventual withdrawals from it worse for no reason.

Yup and i feel like it really is different for everyone; if you experiment though u can find where your ceiling is at