Quick 2C-I Question

[GuatamaToro]

Hey, fellas. I'm about to get 20 MG of 2C-I and I had a question.

I've done 2C-B before. I dissolved 20 MG in water and drank it and had one of the best trips of my entire life (I'm an expierenced user of DMT, acid, shrooms). With this 20 MG of 2C-I I'm most likely going to eat 10 MG and then rail the other 10 about an hour after injestion.

Is this a good idea? Is there a better idea for a better trip? (Please note that I'm not going to rail all 20 MG due to many bad reports)

EDIT - I'm basically asking if it will be a more intense trip if I snoot 10 MG an hour after orally taking 10 MG.

 

[zn13bt]

2C-Xs hurt intensely when insufflated. Why don't you want to do all 20mg orally?

 

[Ellis Dee]

Agreed, Very noteworthy burn that takes a few minutes to progress until it feels like youv been hit with a hammer

 

[Feste]

I'd stick with taking orally personally.

 

[GuatamaToro]

2C-Xs hurt intensely when insufflated. Why don't you want to do all 20mg orally?

I know this. But pain isn't the issue here at all. I've railed Molly and bunk coke before and it was a horrendous pain.

The question I'm bringing up is if I do 10 MG orally and then 10 up the nose, will that produce a more intense trip? I know that snooting 10 MG is roughly the equivalent to 20 MG orally, but I'm just curious to see if it intensifies the trip after an hour after taking 10 MG.

 

[tBirdee]

I know this. But pain isn't the issue here at all. I've railed Molly and bunk coke before and it was a horrendous pain...

The point is though, if you think that was painful, 2C-x will be much MORE painful.

 

[GuatamaToro]

The point is though, if you think that was painful, 2C-x will be much MORE painful.

You don't seem to understand that I'm saying temporary pain is irrelevant here. I'm just asking if it will be a more intense trip by snooting some after orally taking some.

 

[Feste]

Of course it'll be more intense, but that doesn't mean it'll be better.

 

[zn13bt]

Yes, it will be more intense. Insufflation is typically a more efficient ROA than oral ingestion. But your sinuses will be in searing pain the whole time. It'll be much, *much* worse than snorting bad coke. Like, pouring salt all over an open wound level of pain. It will also increase the body load and nausea and make it more likely that you will vomit (which is rare on oral 2C-I). So I guess it depends on how much that would affect you while you're trying to trip. If you really want to do this, I'd suggest snorting a small amount, maybe 2-3mg, first to see if you can handle the body load.

Anyways, 2C-I is a little more potent than 2C-B, so if 20mg orally of 2C-B was a good level for you, then the same amount of 2C-I taken orally will probably work just as well, if not be more intense. Just sayin'.

 

[nearjat]

Eh I prefer 2C-I orally. 20mg is a pretty good dose for this one, just eat it.

 

[GuatamaToro]

Thanks for the advice, fellas.

I think I'll switch down to 15 MG orally and rail 5 MG.

I don't see how much more painful it could be to snoot this in comparison to the really cut up coke I had. That shit had the most painful drip, my throat was completely raw, tears were flowing out of the sides of my eyes like a faucet, etc.

 

[atara]

You don't seem to understand that I'm saying temporary pain is irrelevant here. I'm just asking if it will be a more intense trip by snooting some after orally taking some.

Snorting 2Cs is a waste of time. The peak hits faster but is shorter, and the whole thing is more dangerous (most of the 2C-T-7 deaths were from insufflation). The bioavailability really isn't much better snorted, you just condense/waste the experience. Keep in mind that 2C-I is more potent than 2C-B.

 

[GuatamaToro]

Snorting 2Cs is a waste of time. The peak hits faster but is shorter, and the whole thing is more dangerous (most of the 2C-T-7 deaths were from insufflation). The bioavailability really isn't much better snorted, you just condense/waste the experience. Keep in mind that 2C-I is more potent than 2C-B.

I don't see how it is a waste to snort, then.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Some chems just work better take orally! If you are assuming "Well everything must necessarily work better up the nose" WRONG! You are not a biochem expert and this naive supposition will get you in trouble some day, so FORGET it, please! The nose is NOT the universal "Get Happy Faster and Stronger" hole! It's just NOT, OK?

As someone said, nasal 2C's come on too fast for your body to handle, and the fade out MUCH faster than oral. They just work better by mouth. I can't prove that to you, but that is the experience of the vast majority of those who have used them. If you are not here for advice from more experienced users, then WHY ARE YOU HERE?

JUST TAKE ALL 20mg ORAL, SILLY!!! Nasal is NOT the way to go with 2C-s.

They are ok taken sublingually for slightly faster absorption and stronger effect so you could try putting it under your tongue for 20-30 mins then swollow.

But for 1st try, to be sure you get the standard effect, do all of by the stomach.

AND: Do NOT take it with juice or anything else highly acidic like soft drink... extra acidity REDUCES the absorption of all phenethylamines (which includes 2C chems, all forms of amphetamine, etc)

ALSO: Have an EMPTY stomach... no food 3hrs before and 2 hours after dosing, this will also GREATLY reduce the effect if you have eaten more than a very small amount within that timeframe. Eating also results in lots more natural stomach acid in the digestive tract which further reduces absorption.

So its very simple: for best effect, take all 20mg with a non-acidic drink on an empty stomach.

 

[GuatamaToro]

Some chems just work better take orally! If you are assuming "Well everything must necessarily work better up the nose" WRONG! You are not a biochem expert and this naive supposition will get you in trouble some day, so FORGET it, please! The nose is NOT the universal "Get Happy Faster and Stronger" hole! It's just NOT, OK?

As someone said, nasal 2C's come on too fast for your body to handle, and the fade out MUCH faster than oral. They just work better by mouth. I can't prove that to you, but that is the experience of the vast majority of those who have used them. If you are not here for advice from more experienced users, then WHY ARE YOU HERE?

JUST TAKE ALL 20mg ORAL, SILLY!!! Nasal is NOT the way to go with 2C-s.

They are ok taken sublingually for slightly faster absorption and stronger effect so you could try putting it under your tongue for 20-30 mins then swollow.

But for 1st try, to be sure you get the standard effect, do all of by the stomach.

AND: Do NOT take it with juice or anything else highly acidic like soft drink... extra acidity REDUCES the absorption of all phenethylamines (which includes 2C chems, all forms of amphetamine, etc)

ALSO: Have an EMPTY stomach... no food 3hrs before and 2 hours after dosing, this will also GREATLY reduce the effect if you have eaten more than a very small amount within that timeframe. Eating also results in lots more natural stomach acid in the digestive tract which further reduces absorption.

So its very simple: for best effect, take all 20mg with a non-acidic drink on an empty stomach.

I'm very expierenced with oral 2C-B, so I know most of this. But, thank you for the new insite that I was unaware of. I guess I'll just take it orally....again.

I'm all scatter-minded on how to take it lol. Most likely I'll just eat it all. When you said put it under your tongue for 20-30 minutes, what do you mean? I've only dissolved the 2Cs in water and drank it. I've never had it in pill form or anything. It's going to be presented to me in a tin foil package of some sort. Care to explain?

 

[DwayneHoover]

Just dump the powder from the capsule under your tongue and hold it there. It will give a tart taste in the mouth but nothing too bad.

Then a little while later have a drink of water, swish your mouth and swollow.

If you decide to not do that and just swallow it all, mixing it with water first like you did with 2C-B is totally unnecessary. I do not understand what people are thinking when they do this.

Hmm.. well perhaps that will pre-dissolve it and help it absorb better via the stomach, so perhaps that is a good idea actually... hmm... I will have to try that next time I do a powder. Might have to use alcohol to get it to all dissolve.

 

[Roger&Me]

IMHO, 2C-x compounds should never be insufflated, without exception.

 

[GuatamaToro]

Just dump the powder from the capsule under your tongue and hold it there. It will give a tart taste in the mouth but nothing too bad.

Then a little while later have a drink of water, swish your mouth and swollow.

If you decide to not do that and just swallow it all, mixing it with water first like you did with 2C-B is totally unnecessary. I do not understand what people are thinking when they do this.

Hmm.. well perhaps that will pre-dissolve it and help it absorb better via the stomach, so perhaps that is a good idea actually... hmm... I will have to try that next time I do a powder. Might have to use alcohol to get it to all dissolve.

Will it dissolve under my tongue like a tab of blotter acid?

 

[zn13bt]

AND: Do NOT take it with juice or anything else highly acidic like soft drink... extra acidity REDUCES the absorption of all phenethylamines (which includes 2C chems, all forms of amphetamine, etc)

Actually, I always take 2Cs dissolved in orange juice, and I don't have problems with them being any less potent that way. I sip on the juice over a half hour or so instead of gulping it all down at once, that way when it starts coming up it doesn't hit me quite so fast and there's not as much nausea.

ALSO: Have an EMPTY stomach... no food 3hrs before and 2 hours after dosing, this will also GREATLY reduce the effect if you have eaten more than a very small amount within that timeframe. Eating also results in lots more natural stomach acid in the digestive tract which further reduces absorption.

You can have a little snack before taking it, like a few crackers or cookies or something. They will coat the lining of the stomach and thereby help reduce any stomach irritation or nausea you might have. (I learned this trick from a psychiatrist when I was having trouble with some medication I had been prescribed.)

I've never heard of stomach acid or acidic foods being a problem with phenethylamines. Do you have a source for that?

 

[GuatamaToro]

Zn13bt, thank you for the advice about the stomach lining.

With 2C-B, I always get a sense of nausea that is rooted underneath my sternum. I never hack or gag or throwup, but it's constantly there (even though I don't always pay attention to it)