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Questions about tripping for the first time (LSA) knowing you are to young.

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Hi guys.
I am a 16 years old boy. I’ve got a bunch of questions about tripping, and yes I’ve done my research! Sorry for a very long thread, but I really need your advice. Scroll down to “questions” for a short version.


I’ve been interested in drugs since I was 13. When I was 14 I had my first considering about doing psychedelic drugs, but I decided to wait after reading some forums that all suggested people to wait doing psychedelics until you are at least 18. I know that a psychedelic experience can be hard to “digest” – especially in such a young age - which is why I still haven’t tried psychedelics. I still don’t really feel ready for the experience since I feel like my puberty is very confusing and hard on me. Also, when I think back at the time when I was 14 and had the same considering as I’m having now, I feel like a lot has happened in my life, and I’m sure that much will happen the next years. Also I don’t feel like I have an identity etc.. But I really want to trip. I know all arguments are against me, but I don’t think I can wait much longer. I can’t sleep at night because I am trying to figure out how my first trip will be- and when it will be. This night I actually dreamed I was on psychedelic drugs.


I’ve almost decided to do it. But I have a lot of questions – also I want to hear your advice, and I know that almost all of you will advise me to wait for my first psychedelic experience. It’s not the fear of a badtrip that is holding me back. It’s more the thought that this decision can follow me for the rest of my life. I mean, I can never undo it, and I will never have a first time again. But I am so exited!
Since I don’t have any connections, LSA-seeds is the only option for me. I’ve been reading about them day-in and day-out, and I almost feel like an expert. Therefore I also know that it is a bad first-time-psychedelic, because of the unpleasant nausea and the muscle pain. But I don’t really have any other options.


So my situation is that I’m living on some kind of a boarding school, where I live and go to school. I live on a room with three other boys. We know everything about each other and I feel 100% confidence with them. A couple of months ago I got some MDMA-crystals and we did them together. We all had a fantastic experience, but I don’t want to trip with them, even thou they want to try it. They are to immature, and they don’t know a thing about psychedelics. They just want to “see the world from another view”. So do I, but at least I’ve read a lot about it. So I’m going to trip alone – but they will probably be there the whole time and look after me. Originally was my plan to take the seeds at home, because I’ve always imagined it that way, and I have a fantastic garden with lots of fantastic trees and smells, and it’s always been the “LSA-spot” for me, but I’ll think I’ll do it on the school instead. I can be on my room, or I can go outside. The school is located in a small town, with a small “forest” surrounded by fields. I might bump into other students/teachers as we live 130 students on the school, but I guess it doesn’t matter. Almost everyone knows that I smoke weed anyway, and it’s not like I have to talk to anyone. So how are my set and settings? I can paint or just lay down, I can lesson to music and I can go for a walk.


Besides doing MDMA once, I’ve done ADHD-pills 5-10 times, but I only get high on high doses like 80-150 mg. Also I smoke weed multiple times a week, and I’ve been doing it for 2 years. I am planning on stopping this unhealthy habit – but keep telling myself that “it’s okay, cause it’s the only thing that makes you really happy”, which in some way might be true, which is another argument for not doing psychedelics. But if I feel good the days before the trip wouldn’t it be good enough? I mean do you have to be happy for doing psychedelics, or is it good enough just to be happy when you do the drugs?



QUESTIONS:

-Do you have to be a happy person for doing psychedelics, or is it good enough just to be happy when you do the drugs?

-What are the best set and settings?

-How easy is it to hide that you are tripping on LSA? I mean I know that you can’t hide that you are tripping but are you able to understand what other people are saying? Are you able to answer so that other people know what you are trying to say?

-Is it possible to get bored on a trip? I know that lessoning to music or painting or being outside should be fantastic on a trip, but can you do this for 6-8 hours?

-My plan is to take 4 seeds (best quality) while being a little hungry and then eat another seed if I can’t feel anything after 1½ hour. Would this work?

-What shall I expect? I know I have to expect the worst, but how are a LSA-trip? Ofcourse I’ve read a thousand trip-report but how will I act, and how easy is it to interact with other people?


THANK YOU! And sorry for a confuzing thread. I just need some guidens. More questions will probably come... :)
 
I was 12 or 13 when I started reading about psychedelics and The Beatles, about 14 when I smoked marijuana, and 15 when I took the plunge and ate morning glory seeds. Understand I approached tripping with the idea that it would 'expand my mind' because that is the context in which I was introduced to psychedelics. I learned about 'set' and 'setting' long before I ever attempted to take a psychedelic. I would say that I was truly approaching psychedelics with the best intentions that a 15 year old boy could. Never for a second did I consider psychedelics recreational in the way alcohol or codeine were to me at the time.

With that in mind, I will answer the questions.

>Do you have to be a happy person for doing
>psychedelics, or is it good enough just to be
>happy when you do the drugs?

Psychedelics take us to the core of our head. What psychedelics show us is our mind. If you are comfortable with who you are, your status in life, etc then you have a good change of having a positive experience. If you are not comfortable with who you are, status in life...then you have no business tripping without a proper guide. Psychedelics can be incredible tools for self discovery and in the right therapeutic context they can be a great catalyst for moving ahead a step and learning how to deal with the burdens of being a human with emotions. Having said that...there is no way a 15 year old is able to 'guide' themselves through a trip. Sure, my first trip was A1 beautiful...but I was locked in my bedroom at night with my best friend...and I was a fairly happy kid at the time. I'd say my experience was not the norm...and I was probably very lucky.

>What are the best
>set and settings?

Set is your mental state....the best one is to have a positive and well-adjusted mental state (whatever that means). Setting is where you take it. The best setting is one you have control over. If you trip around people who will not approve of your actions...you are setting yourself up for panic and disaster. Sure, in the 1960s (before LSD was a 'dangerous and illegal' drug, people had Acid Tests and would drop 500ug LSD in absolute chaos...but times are different now. A controlled setting is a MUST for a tripping initiate.

>How easy is it to hide that you are tripping on LSA?

It isn't.

>I mean I know that you can’t hide that you are
>tripping but are you able to understand what
>other people are saying? Are you able
>to answer so that other people know what you are trying to say?

See previous post about set and setting.

>Is it possible to get bored on a trip?
>I know that lessoning to music or
>painting or being outside should be
>fantastic on a trip, but can you do this for 6-8 hours?

Unlikely. Tripping is like being a baby reborn, seeing the world for the first time again.


>What shall I expect? I know I have to expect the worst, but how are a LSA-trip?
>Ofcourse I’ve read a thousand trip-report
>but how will I act, and how easy is it to interact with other people?

Nobody can predict this for you, and I can tell you that reading 1001 trip reports will still give you no idea as to the true nature of the experience. Unless you meditate in the mountains for months at a time, or practice extreme starvation techniques...there simply is no common language to describe what tripping is like. It is a completely individual experience...there are as many different types of trip as there are personalities.

You will do as you please (as I did) but if anything I would try to seek out a like-minded friend....then seek out a good setting (where NO ONE WILL DISTURB YOU.) Otherwise, it's just not even worth trying. You will get so much more out of the experience if you don't have to worry about 'looking sober' or trying to interact with people who will not support what you are doing.
 
You should stay away from psychedelics until you can get your hands on some real drugs. I say this as a drug user who started at 13 as well. I'm 17 now, and I've done just about every drug I want to do. 16 isn't so bad, I was tripping regularly at 15.. but you should wait until you can actually get some quality substances.
 
Thanks for taking your time to answering my thread. "Psychedelics can be incredible tools for self discovery and in the right therapeutic context they can be a great catalyst for moving ahead a step and learning how to deal with the burdens of being a human with emotions" this is another one of my questions. HOW do I use psychedelics to learn new things about myself and move on? How can i "expand" my mind? Also I don't really have anywhere else to trip than on the boardingschool, but I don't really care who sees me tripping. I will be followed by one of my roommates (like a tripsitter) all the time, also I doubt people can see that im tripping, if i dont talk to them? I could trip in the night, as no-one would see me - but then i won't be able to enjoy nature at daytime. Maybe I should just stay outside for the whole trip?
 
>You should stay away from psychedelics
>until you can get your hands on some real drugs.


Ok, I am taking the bait.....

how in the hell are morning glory seeds not a 'real drug.' Are you completely unaware that many a Mexican and Central American shaman prefer morning glory seeds to even mushrooms? Mushrooms and morning glory seeds are THE psychedelics of Mexico and Central America.
 
>There is no way a 15 year old is
>able to 'guide' themselves through a trip.

As I said, I got lucky with my tripping experiences. Taking it at a boarding school where people of authority can penalize you for your actions is nothing short of foolhardy and stupid. Reread what I said about set, setting, and BEING IN CONTROL of who you will have contact with.
 
Okay, I'll lesson to your advice, and try to find somewhere else to trip.
Btw, does 4 HBWR seeds sounds like a fair dose? They should be best quality. And if they do not kick in after 1½ hour, would eating another seed work?
 
4 seeds is an excellent first time dosage. 5-6 very fresh seeds will be a full dosage. Fresh baby woodrose are POTENT little buggers, more potent than any psychedelic plant save for maybe Psilocybe cyanescens. And do keep in mind that they take a good 3 hours to begin peaking...and the full effects don't really sink in till the 4-5th hour.
 
morninggloryseed said:
>You should stay away from psychedelics
>until you can get your hands on some real drugs.


Ok, I am taking the bait.....

how in the hell are morning glory seeds not a 'real drug.' Are you completely unaware that many a Mexican and Central American shaman prefer morning glory seeds to even mushrooms? Mushrooms and morning glory seeds are THE psychedelics of Mexico and Central America.
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Sure, but is he taking them because he prefers them or because he found some seed packets laying around in his shed and that's all he has?




I thought about trying LSA once, then I took some shrooms for the first time and never entertained the notion again
 
Taking the bait again.... :)

Same reason I did them the first time....I was a nerdy kid and no one would sell me drugs when I was 15. They were 'real' to me....and though I do not use morning glory anymore (I would jump though to use authentic Rivea Corymbosa) the trip from the seeds is actually quite nice, unique...more like a slow 5-MeO-DMT trip than mushrooms. Shit, some of my all time fondest memories are from my morning glory seed trips.

Actually the OP isn't using MGseed and you can't buy woodrose at the flower store so does that make them real? :)

I've had good baby woodrose seeds (only with FRESHEST seed one can get ) but the effect is second rate compared to morning glory seed. Woodrose are more somatic in nature...gearing towards horrendous body load as the seeds age.
 
All drugs are chemicals. Chemicals are real.

Some chemicals just suck subjectively to humans. The universe at large gives no fucks
 
So you think that Morning Glory is a better choise? Aren't you supposed to eat like 100+ of them? How do you even eat so many seeds?
 
I'm not sure I'd use the word 'better' but as a visionary/mind expanding tool the morning glory seeds easily exceed the baby woodrose seeds in that capacity. Fresh woodrose seeds are not as 'mind expanding' and far less 'visual' but they do feel very nice, induce less nausea, and are great for consenting adult activities.

But getting it all down is not easy as you need a good 6-10grams of the ground seed (aka 200-300 seeds) for full effects. And there is no easy way to get it down. The first time I literally sat there and chewed them all down, and that was not easy to say the least. Later I experimented with encapsulating them (and swallowing forty 000 capsules is not easy either).
 
Thank you i'll just stick to the HBWR. You make it sounds like that HBWR is a better "starter" choose because it's a lighter trip? Am i right? And btw how do I use psychedelics to learn new things about myself and move on? How can i "expand" my mind? I know its not that simple, but what should I do? How can I use psychedelics in a useful way?
 
-Do you have to be a happy person for doing psychedelics, or is it good enough just to be happy when you do the drugs?
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I'm as miserable a bastard as you're likely to come across and psychedelics are always very life affirming for me, even when the experience is difficult. So I go with option #2.

-What are the best set and settings?
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Don't be stressed out about anything, or have a time-frame you need to complete your trip in. You gotta be able to just go with it. Setting wise, it's best if you have somewhere safe/calm/private to go to, or preferably stay in/around during your first experiences with any particular substance.

How easy is it to hide that you are tripping on LSA?
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Depends on how much you take, but with LSA I think you should be fine (though it may be unpleasant to have to fake normality).

Is it possible to get bored on a trip?
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Yes. This is more likely the more frequently you trip.

And btw how do I use psychedelics to learn new things about myself and move on? How can i "expand" my mind? I know its not that simple, but what should I do? How can I use psychedelics in a useful way?
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Don't even worry about this. Just explore the mind-state and remember you're doing this to enjoy yourself. The more spiritual/therapeutic effects will manifest when they please, trying to get a profound experience when you're just starting will likely lead to disappointment.
 
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