Questions about Mimosa Hostilis

[Sega420]

is puking on Ayahuasca really THAT common?


ps - for rectal admin. you can pick up an enema at the laxative area of your drug store.
cleans you out before your big experience, ergo better absorption

 

[electric spirit]

im a bit confused by the instructions on shroomery... when you add the jello doesnt the whole thing congeal? in the instructions it says to add jello, wait 10 minutes, then strain. im assuming this means strain the congealed "parts" out or something. however in the end it says it makes it easier to eat cause you can break off pieces and swallow it.... not sure how to figure this, any advice on the meaning of this last part?

As long as the mix is kept hot, the jello apparently only congeals in so far that there are tannins left to pick up. I used the ratios specified in that thread and only a tiny bit of jello congealed right away and was filtered out, I guess the egg white already gets out most if not all of the tannins (depends on bark probably).

What remains will stay liquid until cooled down. Boil it off as much as possible (until it begins to get thicker and solids start to form on the bottom of the pot) then pour into container.

Once it's completely cold it will be like one of those translucent pieces of candy, I could just take it out of it's container and hold it in my hand while taking bites.

(previous post was in reply to Ismene btw)

 

[psood0nym]

Easiest way I can think of that seems to keep volumes low enough to be viable:

Extract crystal DMT from mimosa via one of the many easy to use teks out there. Convert the freebase crystals to an acidic solution with white vinegar slowly, keeping the total volume below a few mL. Use pH papers to make sure the resulting solution is tolerably acidic, dilute if necessary. Administer a few mL of harmala extract solution IR about 30 minutes before the DMT solution.

 

[daysonatrain]

would doing several egg white tannin extractions work just as well as egg white and jello?

also, i could be totally wrong here, but i thought most of the dmt is bound to the plant tannins, would removing these tannins also be removing some of the dmt?

 

[electric spirit]

^ I'm sure it would, the jello just has the extra advantage of making it easy to eat without taste. I haven't tried drinking mimosa tea myself but it's supposed to be very bitter IIRC.

I wouldn't worry about wasting dmt with this method, from my limited experience I would say it's at least as efficient as extracting first. It actually felt a lot more powerful than the dose of freebase extract I would get from the same amount of bark, but I guess there might be other alkaloids to account for so it's hard to say for sure...

 

[fnog9]

You sometimes get lucky with ayahuasca/pharmahuasca. I've had times where i've had no nausea bu eventually whichever method you use you're puking up pigs in a blanket.

That makes me interested to try the anal way. Cause if people are still puking balls from the purest of pure chemcials, it makes me wonder if anally is any better.

 

[Ismene]

Yeah - anally would be nausea free. The trouble is DMT freebase (and as far as I'm aware the salt too) are strongly alkaline. Dip a little on your tongue and then imagine half a gram of that up your arse.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

An enema is an EXCELLENT ingestion method for Ayahuasca or a Mimosa tea.

Personally I'd use nothing but pure Mimosa in a brew and then shoot it up my butt

Wait for it to cool first!

That makes me interested to try the anal way. Cause if people are still puking balls from the purest of pure chemcials, it makes me wonder if anally is any better.

Go on the Nexus... people take pure chemicals and still get sick.

Purging is part of the experience. Tough it out and get the fuck over it.

Yeah - anally would be nausea free. The trouble is DMT freebase (and as far as I'm aware the salt too) are strongly alkaline. Dip a little on your tongue and then imagine half a gram of that up your arse.

Why would you go to all that trouble? Make a Mimosa brew or Ayahuasca and just shoot it up your ass.

 

[psood0nym]

Yeah - anally would be nausea free. The trouble is DMT freebase (and as far as I'm aware the salt too) are strongly alkaline. Dip a little on your tongue and then imagine half a gram of that up your arse.

I have a post above that addresses this issue. In short: vinegar. Synthetic DMT is nausea-free used IM, so I imagine a relatively pure extract of DMT acetate used rectally would be as well. The synthetic, both IM and oral with harmala (also nausea free) really is quite a bit different than mimosa, though. Perhaps there are other alkaloids in mimosa tea that impact the oral trip.

 

[Teotzlcoatl]

harmala is nausea free when taken orally?

 

[fnog9]

An enema is an EXCELLENT ingestion method for Ayahuasca or a Mimosa tea.

Personally I'd use nothing but pure Mimosa in a brew and then shoot it up my butt

Wait for it to cool first!

Are you serious? So you've tried it? Cause I've had trouble finding people who have actually tried it and it worked out ok. I suspect you haven't actually tried it, or are joking, because mimosa brew is very acidic and I suspect from the effect it has on the mouth that it would not be fun in the ass. But if you can attest otherwise, I would be glad.

Purging is part of the experience. Tough it out and get the fuck over it.

Sir, you underestimate the "purging" which some have experienced. I made the same mistake. I figured, "oh well, I'll just barf and it will be fine after." No. It was not like that simple. It just would not stop. It was relentless, it was chaos for the body. As I said in my first post in this thread, I was so dizzy that I could not even open my eyes.... and I did not even get a full trip bc I threw up so fast. It was the worst physical experience of my life. I could not imagine my body being any more fucked up than that and remaining conscious. The chaos that my body was going through was the maximum it could take while staying awake. And the horrible physical state lasted for 12 hours! While the weak psychedelic effects lasted about 2 hours. And as everyone knows, the trip will generally reflect the mood that one is in. So how good can you expect a trip to be if you are having the worst time of your life? A big theme of the psychedelic effects that I experienced was seeing a big red boiling roiling batch of mimosa right up in my face boiling up and exploding in to the whole universe, which would cause explosive and screaming mega barf. So the fact that you would say "get over it" as if the "purging" is nothing... that just doesn't make sense to me. The "purging" totally ruins the trip. Hell, the purging pretty much was the trip. As it is now, I would not be able to keep the stuff down. The purging is unacceptable, at least at the level I have experienced.

Why would you go to all that trouble? Make a Mimosa brew or Ayahuasca and just shoot it up your ass.

Seriously? Have you really tried it?

 

[fnog9]

That makes me interested to try the anal way. Cause if people are still puking balls from the purest of pure chemcials, it makes me wonder if anally is any better.

Not necessarily. The fact that people are still barfing like crazy on pure crystals to me suggests to me that it's not stomach upset from the ayahuasca that is making people barf..... it might be the effect that the chemicals have on the body. As for me, I barfed beyond everything I could possibly barf and my body was still trying to force it up. It seemed as though I was barfing not because my body was trying to get rid of the mimosa or rue, but just because I was so insanely dizzy, if I moved at all I had to barf. The ayahuasca might just mess with your middle ear, causing continued dizziness and nausea.

Anyway, I shall soon find out because the time draws near. I am preparing to do this next week. Still to this day I have not been able to find first hand reports of people who have used Mimosa this way. I shall report if there's any nausea, and if a mimosa enema hurts your intestines as much as some people think it will.

Also, I just want to say something that I find funny. There are a lot of people who have the attitude, "An ayahuasca enema?! EW!! That's gross! I don't care how bad mimosa tastes or how much it makes me barf, I would never put something so gross up my ass". Well I just find it very strange that people are so adverse to putting something gross up their ass, but not in their mouth. Like, yeah sure, I guess nothing gross is ever your ass. By that logic, why aren't people barfing up their own shit as opposed to shitting it out. Seems like they'd rather eat their own shit and barf it up than have it up their ass. I'm just sayin... it really is weird to me. Sorry if that's gross, but it's not my fault.... people are illogical.

Oh yeah, I'm using 30g of mimosa bark here. I'm not messin around. I'm done testing the waters.

 

[AyaAya]

Hi Bluelight,
I've tried Aya enema, with both rue tea and mimosa. It was extrmely potent, and worked straight away, within 5 minutes of holding in the second tea of mimosa. I prepared about 5g of rue and 20g of mimosa with water, strained both the teas, prepared the enema bags, and held in the rue first, for 10 minutes, before expelling it. Then I took in the mimosa tea and held it in for approx 5 minutes to 8 minutes before expelling. Immediately after expelling it, I felt the room shift and sparks of molecules flying and a feeling that all the air went out of the room, all of which usually heralds a very deep journey. I went into my bedroom and lay down, and as I did so, I saw open eye visuals, a totally different environment. I lay down, took a deep breath and went stragiht in. It was more like a DMT trip and didnt last as long as an oral ayahuasca journey, but it was somewhere in-between. Lasted a couple of hours. Very strong effect. I have to mention that I'm used to enemas and used to take in different enema teas like chamomile, and flaxseed oil for health purposes, so I didnt find it too difficult to administer. Hope this helps.

 

[AyaAya]

I've tried it and it works! Its excellent! Just in case, I used Rue tea first and then Mimosa tea. 5-8 minutes held it in, and IMMEDIATELY after expelling, it started, walls shifting, molecules flying, the whole shit. The trip was like a DMT trip, very strong open eye visuals as well as close eye. It lasted about 2 hours, so was like a cross between DMT and AYA trip.
Very beautiful, very strange journey. Only tried it once, but it worked very well. BTW: NO NAUSEA. NONE. NO PAIN or Discomfort in the ass, or any type of stinging. NONE. Was like a normal enema. However you have to be a little used to administering enemas beforehand. Try with water a few times, hold it in for 5 mins, and then try with the tea. HAPPY JOURNEY!!! Love. X