question re: Dilaudid route of administation

[Crimson_King]

Hi Everyone!

I just joined this site about 10 minutes ago, but you know what? I just don't have the time to pore over hundreds of posts/threads that might have already answered this question.

My best friend was an IV user for several years back in the early 2000s, and he simply has NO veins whatsoever left for intravenous use. This man is 62 years old, doesn't know anything about computers, and I offered to help him out with this question.

However, he owns several syringes,

He has been prescribed Dilaudid (hydromorphone) for cancer pain in the form of 8 milligram generic pills, and he would like to know the best route of administration for getting at least a buzz of some kind, since IV is basically completely out of the question.

This man had crushed up one or two pills and snorted them intranasally, but received VERY little effect from this method, and not only that, but it leaves a mess of excess powder on the flat surface he uses to create the "lines".

He has also tried "plugging" the liquified powder a number of times (8 mg at a time) and also received minimal results.

Additionally, he has muscled 8mg at a time in several different muscles (arm, belly, butt-cheeks) and really doesn't experience much that way, either, in addition to developing a couple of really nasty abscesses that grow and grow until a cup of green slimes explodes out of there (REALLY GROSS!))
.......so....there is a dilemma here.

All of his veins have either collapsed or receded to the point of non-availability.

Any recommendations?. He is unable to do more than 8 or 16 milligrams at a time, but REALLY wants SOME kind of buzz.

It seems like such a waste to snort, IM, or shove it up the butt.

Any recommendations on how to find VEINS that might be hiding somewhere? And where are the veins located (like, Arms? Legs? Groin? Hands? etc>.?)

Thank you in advance for any response.

 

[RTrain]

Are the pills instant or extended release? I think the best bet is plugging. With Dilaudid the dose is so small (compared to other opioids) that snorting doesn't work great due to all the filler. I remember I got my hands on 3x 2 mg Ds, and figured the best bet was to snort the. They were little bitty pills, but they broke up to what is like 2x the amount of powder I snort a day when I am doing heroin regularly. I was amazed how much filler there was, I snorted it anyway and it barely touched me.

So I would say plugging is the way to go, probably good idea to use a good amount of water and of course the rectum can't have any feces in it. Though I think that regardless of what you do, unless you find a way to bang them then its going to be disappointing. That seems to be the consensus with dilaudid. And probably should not do any more IMs, that is really bad. I am guessing these thigns are extended release pills because diluadid is an odd pill to Rx for chronic pain, with its short half life it more than likely they are ERs.

 

[paranoid android]

Can he manage to get the name brand Dilaudid pills? I know from personal experience that the 4mg ones and the 8mg ones have very little in the way of filler hence why they are great for snorting and of course IV drug use. The generics have far much more shit in them so i was thankful that the pharmacies here pretty much always gave me the brand name ones.

Other then that snorting and plugging them are the best ways to take dilaudid. Also do not IM pills of any kind! IMing pills is pretty much a guaranteed abscess no matter what the pill. IVing them as dangerous as it can be is actually safer then IM use when using pills. This guy really sounds like he's at the end of the line with opiates. Honestly getting someone like that on methadone or buprenorphine would be a much better idea.

 

[Ryanzpc]

Try a main artery in the leg or kneck, or foot or hand theres small ones go slow though or youll miss them, sorry hes in pain, use caution with arteries they have always scared me.