Question for heroin/opiate addicts, im curious?

[Stimlover22]

I had a close friend that was a heavy i.v. user of Dilaudid. He told me qfter 5 years of his usage he doesn't shoot up to get high anymore, but shoots up just to avoid getting pill sick. So, can anyone agree with him? What does it truly feel like to be dope/pill sick? Is it like a bad case of the flu? As a cocaine/meth addict I don't understand an opiate addiction but I aint doubting it, hell, I felt sick just seeing him in that shape.

 

[ArtVandalay]

Yeah, it's called opiate addiction. You use just to feel normal and stay well. Dope sick is like the flu but multiplied+++.

 

[xxsicknessxx]

Its like you have to do a (what ever you amount of drugs are) just to be sober feeling. And to get high you have to more then what you normally do so unless you got cash you just have to do a certain amount of drugs to feel.. normal or even less then normal.

Its like you have to do a shot of herion just to feel sick. If you don't you will feel like your dying>. Example

 

[Sepher]

He told me qfter 5 years of his usage he doesn't shoot up to get high anymore, but shoots up just to avoid getting pill sick. So, can anyone agree with him?

Yeah, absolutely. Thing with opiates is there seems to be no upper limit as far as tolerance goes. If you build up dose over a long enough period of time you can get so you need to take crazy amounts just to feel like your average none-opiate user does straight headed. Amounts sufficient to kill whole handfuls of people, and you can just keep going on like this almost forever, upping and upping the dose required. The body becomes dependent on it to maintain normal function cos you've replaced a naturally occurring endorphin with an external source so it just stops producing or can't produce enough of what it needs. That's what physical addiction is.

IV in particular drives up tolerance dramatically. The brain learns very quickly to adjust to the fast, hard slam of an IVed opiate, to the point that what starts out as a dose producing very full-on effects that's maybe even sufficient to kill you rapidly becomes a dose that barely even touches the sides any more, being maybe not even quite big enough to prevent withdrawal. Not uncommon for long-term addicts to be shooting up best part of half a gram or more of Heroin for instance several times a day and feeling next to nothing from it. That's why opiates, and IV route opiates in particular are such a trap.

 

[1230981]

wht does it feel like? shivering, runny nose, cant think, cant eat, cant drink, cant sleep, anything coming in is coming right back out, dry heaving days on end, diarhea thats painful yet nothing but water comes out cuz you cant eat, dont wanna even move, thats what i usually got, people i know tell me they get pains in their bones and muscles and especially teeth, ive never gotten the bone pain though, then you go to get your expensive overpriced suboxones or pills or dope cuz your sick and willing to pay anything and drop the pill/powder or got ripped off and by this point your so insane your gonna rob a pharmacy or a dealer you knows got a gun on him lol thats probably equivelant for a 5 year iv hydromorphone addict

 

[Stacianica]

My last withdrawal almost killed me. Literally. My doctor was a general practicioner with a specialty in oncology, luckily-so he truly saved my life.

For me, it was especially dangerous because I weighed around only 83 lbs at the time. Initially, I had the worst flu ever symptoms, severe anxiety, restlessness, feelings of rage and sorrow. I couldnt sleep, wicked lower back pain with this unexplainable need to desire counter-pressure. Freezing cold, I hated the feeling of anything touching me. Then, My blood pressure went crazy, I had terrible pain around my appendix. I eventually I lost the ability to speak (I believe it to be a primal, near-death defense mechanism) and convulsed for hours on end. I hallucinated visually and coldnt feed or go to the bathroom without help I developed thrush in my mouth which often happens in patients near the final phases of terminal illnesses. Then my Doctor saved my life with a very unusual and extremely uncommon rapid methadone detox. It worked. Then, I found myself detoxing from the methadone despite the taper. This mini-withdrawal (what I call it) lasted much longer but was 1/500 th of the intensity of the one earlier. This time I had intense pain near my heart, but It was due to the anxiety I was having. Constant unhappiness, lack of an appetite, the thought of anything sweet made me get sick to my stomach. I was paranoid, sleepless and cried non-stop. I am typically one of those people who have a great deal of difficulty crying normally. I wish I could. But, I shut off before it happens. Not then. It was a nonstop sob fest. I was emotionally and physically Raw. After the whole ordeal (both ordeals) I was a very different person. Cleansed by the fires of my own demons and angels of self preservation.

 

[Eyes On the Roll]

Well, I was never really addicted to IV use. I was, however, addicted to smoking roxicodone 30's off of tin foil. It got so bad, to where I was so addicted to it, that I would just smoke to feel and taste the vapor going into my lungs. At the same time, though, it would keep withdrawals at bay. During my addiction to smoking oxycodone, I did begin experimenting with IV. I began to IV oxycodone, and I began to IV dilaudid, 12mg (i think, it was the highest dosage). My IV phase only lasted about a week.. probably because I was already so heavily involved with vaporizing oxycodone. I did like the IV high, but it was just too quick. When you're so deeep in addiction with opiates, you don't get high anymore. When I would smoke oxy's, I could at least savor every hit I took, with IV, it was just poke, plunge, that's it, you feel normal. With smoking, you knew that it wouldn't get you high anymore because you were so addicted already that it would just make you "normal", but you attributed your addiction to the taste, and the feeling of that oxy vapor going down your throat. And it was the best way to savor it, let me tell you. Even if it didn't get me high, I loved feeling that vapor pass through my throat, and I loved that taste. I can still taste it today.