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Opioids Question about vicroprofins 7.5

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Fank420

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Ive had spine surgey done twice an sadly i became addicted to these pills and Norco 10

Now my question is can these pills cause shallow breathing an semi chest pain,I goto doctors an do heart test an nothing is usally wrong so im wondering if this could be the cause and if anyone else feels what i do after a period of taking them

I take up to 4 to 7 a day and chew them...

Also new to the forum so hi everyone
 
Yes they can cause CNS depression, shallow breathing as you described. However chest pain I doubt it; but maybe your stressing your self out being your breathing is slowed, which could be the cause of some chest pain. Just a thought on the pain, not so sure though.

Look up on doing a CWE to get rid of the APAP and ibuprofen in those pills!

And welcome!
 
HaZeX said:
Yes they can cause CNS depression, shallow breathing as you described. However chest pain I doubt it; but maybe your stressing your self out being your breathing is slowed, which could be the cause of some chest pain. Just a thought on the pain, not so sure though.

Look up on doing a CWE to get rid of the APAP and ibuprofen in those pills!

And welcome!
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I def do stress and the breathing is well more noticible than the chest a pain like i keep feeling of having to want to take a deep breath..can u describe the certain common breathing these pills can cause

and what is CWE to get rid of the APAP and ibuprofen in those pills
 
also should i panic about CNS depression cause it seems like its been like this for a while....anything i can do to make it better
 
Like i stress a lot cause of having to take deep breaths an feeeling of not getting enough air which makes it worse cuz i panic i think
 
A CWE is a cold water extraction, i.e. a simple technique that allows you to get rid of most of the APAP, aspirin or ibuprofen in your opioid pills. It involves crushing the pilss, dissolving them in warm water (use 40 ml/20 pills and even less water for less than 12 pills), letting the solution cool in the fridge (without freezing), which leads to the APAP/ibuprofen precipitating. The solution is then filtered through a coffee filter, so that the APAP/ibuprofen/aspirin remains in the filter. You are supposed to drink the filtered liquid. Here is a link with all the detailed info: http://www.erowid.org/pharms/codeine/codeine_faq.shtml. It's about codeine, but it works the same with hydro or oxy (anything opiated).

As to the breathing issue, yes, breathing becomes labored on opiates, indeed. Have you talked to a doctor about it? I have no medical expertise, so I cannot rule out any health issue. But it might be the case that you are panicking and hyperventilate as a result, which may lead to an increased feeling of lack of air.

I once took 60 mg codeine after a long break from opiates and I started to feel that I wasn't getting enough air and some tightness in my chest. I got horribly scared. It most surely was a non-lethal amount and some people do not even get high from that (well, I am unusually sensitive to psychoactives and to other drugs and my usual dose is 30-45 mg of codeine). And I had taken the same dose before, back when I had a tolerance. This time I felt really sick, but I guess it was more of an anxiety case than anything else. I believe my brain sensed that my breathing got slower and started to flash out alarm signals, which led to an endless cycle of anxiety. Was my slower breathing cause for real concern? I don't know, to be honest. I was fine afterwards and I assume that, had it been serious, I wouldn't have pulled it off that easily. But I sure got to be more cautious about my doses after this event...

When and how did these breathing issues start for you? You've been using for quite a while - has it always been like this or did it start at a certain point in time? Does it happen everytime you dose?
 
Steven_Tyler77 said:
When and how did these breathing issues start for you? You've been using for quite a while - has it always been like this or did it start at a certain point in time? Does it happen everytime you dose?
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Its been about two months breathing issues and ive been using for a few years everyday and yes it seems to happen most of the time when i dose,it could of been like this i jus havent been paying attetion i was too focus on the pill an getting high an wouldnt blame the problems on the pills but now im starting to wonder
 
Sounds like the "breathing issues" are due to anxiety, 7 norcos spread throughout the day wouldn't really cause too many people to have trouble breathing especially if they are used to the meds

Try taking deep belly-breaths through your nose. Don't take deep breaths into your lungs. Even though it feels like you need oxygen, actually the opposite is true.
 
Although I am not a doctor and can't tell you whether or not you're having an adverse reaction, my GUESS is that the pills are causing CNS depression (ie shallow breathing, slowed heart rate, etc), and upon noticing it your anxiety levels go up and you feel like you can't get air. Literally whenever I focus on my breathing it feels so unnatural and scary. Try to put your attention elsewhere and see if the feeling subsides. And like was mentioned above, try a CWE to be a little kinder to your body.
 
it could be cause of anixety cause sometimes I spend hours just trying to take a deep breath or yawn....and its becoming very stressful an ruins my day :(
 
If you are seriously having problems BREATHING, if I was you I would cut back on the vicos, start exercising, eating right, I'd do whatever possible to stop the breathing problems. do you exercise? are you overweight? I would also go to a DR. and explain what is going on and get his opinion. it "could" be alot of things, we are mierly speculating here. A Dr. will solve the problem for you...

4-7/day isn't THAT much, but chewing them is a whole nother ball game.
To answer your Q, yes opiates can cause respitory depression.
 
ive done test all have been normal so far i have more soon but i feel like i always need test to feel ok but that only last a little bit

I am over weight but i have been on a diet an lost 80 pounds but still heavy I do not excerise due to my condition but gonna start trying

and i do chew them,what makes it worse chewing them an should i stop

I just wish i didnt have to worry everyday like this and I feel like something bad is gonna happen :(
 
HERE is our Megathread on Cold Water Extraction.

Also, if you don't want to do the CWE, you could plug (rectal administration) your hydrocodone pills. Wile its safer to always CWE, I am pretty sure APAP and Ibuprofen don't absorb too efficiently:

J Popul Ther Clin Pharmacol Vol 19(2):e179-e186; May 16, 2012 e179
© 2012 Canadian Society of Pharmacology and Therapeutics. ​

Our objective was to study and compare the pharmacokinetic of a single therapeutic dose of
rectal vs. oral ibuprofen in healthy adult volunteers. We found that after oral
administration, ibuprofen was rapidly absorbed and detectable in plasma within 10 minutes after
dosing. Relatively high peak plasma concentration was obtained shortly after administration. These
results are in agreement with previous studies.1,6 After rectal administration, ibuprofen was also
rapidly detectable in plasma, though in
significantly lower concentration. Peak plasma concentration was significantly lower and more slowly obtained, compared to oral administration.
The extent of ibuprofen absorbed through the rectal mucosa was also significantly lower
compared to oral ibuprofen, with relative bioavailability of 63%.
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So basically, plugging will not completely eliminate the ibuprofen or Tylenol, but it will decrease the amount absorbed. A CWE would probably be best, but if you don't want to do that, plugging is an option. You really don't want to screw up your stomach from ibuprofen or your liver from Tylenol.

Fank420 said:
Now my question is can these pills cause shallow breathing an semi chest pain,I goto doctors an do heart test an nothing is usally wrong so im wondering if this could be the cause and if anyone else feels what i do after a period of taking them
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As others have said, yes, Opiates/Narcotics belong to a group of drugs called CNS (central nervous system depressants). In laymens' terms, 'downers'. An opiate overdose is usually caused by severe reperitory depression. Be careful not to mix Opiates with other CNS depressants such as Alchohol, Benzodiazepines (Xanax/Alprazolam, Lorazepam/Ativan, Clonazepam/Klonopin, & Diazepam/Valium), Barbiturates, GHB/GBL, and many more.
 
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The ibuprofen in the vicoprofen might not agree with you. Just ask for hydrocodone without a NSAID in the pill. Take this advice seriously btw some people don't react well at all long term from NSAID's because of their cardiac risks.
 
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