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Heroin question about using old dope(black tar)

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Hello, I would like to hear peoples opinions on this situation.

I had been on MMT for ~3 years now, 95 mg at highest(~2years total) then gradual decrease to 30mg which is what I went cold turkey off of due to insurance being cancelled. During that time I was on MMT I went and bought some dope(black tar) but decided against using it. This was about 3 months ago?? Maybe 4. They are still in the balloons but I want to use them because I am started to become quite sick from the methadone withdrawl. Is it safe to IV these?? I just opened one and it "looks" normal. Smells slightly more of coffee than vinegar.. IDK if the coffee cut will have any negative effect from being old or not.

If you were in my situation, what would you do?? Thanks.
 
I would use it. I've used pills that expired ~20 years ago that worked. 3-4 months is not really a long time. If you are afraid of IVing them just use another ROA (though I would probably still IV).

You can store coffee in jars for more than 3 months I am almost certain of that (I don't drink coffee so I wouldn't know though).
 
Toz said:
I would use it. I've used pills that expired ~20 years ago that worked. 3-4 months is not really a long time. If you are afraid of IVing them just use another ROA (though I would probably still IV).

You can store coffee in jars for more than 3 months I am almost certain of that (I don't drink coffee so I wouldn't know though).
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I agree very much, about using, and about using another ROA. Who knows, if in this months some bacterias have been on the BT? Smoking it should kill any bacteria, because the fire, but IVing, sound more risky

about the coffe, in a hot summer ( 36 degrees daily) i found in an old coffe jar a white disgusting mildew. The temperature makes the difference i guess
 
Just like food - it should be fine to eat, but it might be "stale"

I've noticed with certain drugs, especially ones that are derived/are plants, tend to go stale of left out for a long period of time. I have no experience with Heroin and never will, but I suspect it's probably the same sort of idea.
 
I'd use it. About a month ago I collected waxpapers I got tar in over the course of a year and dipped them in water to try and get a couple decent wetlines out of it when I was in wds. Didn't get high, but I wasn't dopesick anymore. Stored them all in the freezer though.
 
yea id use it. by the time a lot of the dope gets to the dealers hands its months old. it doesnt just hope on a plane and fly to your city. there are tons of logistics that take time to get it to where it needs to go. im sure the tar will be just as good as the day you bought it.
 
are you plenty sure about IVing this?

there was an heroin contaminated with "carbunco" ( antrax) that made ill some dutch heroin users, i read the new like one year ago. the "antrax" can come from domestic animals like sheeps and so ( in fact, spanish northern "cow workers" has a natural vacuum against this, is an old illness , not so bad as the americans said)

I mean, the black tar is opium acetylated? opium comes from vegetal, im sure there can be bacterias ( in opium, not so sure about the BT)

in short words, i wouldnt IV this. But f someone gonna IV the BT, then using filters so little that dont allow bacetrias to go thru, seems the safest option

ps: the antrax was not because old dope, thats true, docs said it was contaminated in origin, probably in afganistan, but...i wouldnt risk about

pss: is not the same old dope conservated on the fridge than old dope, on a table with direct sunlight at 36 degrees day after day during some months

psss: is like, cocaine is easy to conservate. Coca plant leaves, can get fxxxx by bacterias if not conservated properly
 
El Barto said:
are you plenty sure about IVing this?

there was an heroin contaminated with "carbunco" ( antrax) that made ill some dutch heroin users, i read the new like one year ago. the "antrax" can come from domestic animals like sheeps and so ( in fact, spanish northern "cow workers" has a natural vacuum against this, is an old illness , not so bad as the americans said)

I mean, the black tar is opium acetylated? opium comes from vegetal, im sure there can be bacterias ( in opium, not so sure about the BT)

in short words, i wouldnt IV this. But f someone gonna IV the BT, then using filters so little that dont allow bacetrias to go thru, seems the safest option

ps: the antrax was not because old dope, thats true, docs said it was contaminated in origin, probably in afganistan, but...i wouldnt risk about

pss: is not the same old dope conservated on the fridge than old dope, on a table with direct sunlight at 36 degrees day after day during some months

psss: is like, cocaine is easy to conservate. Coca plant leaves, can get fxxxx by bacterias if not conservated properly
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If it was dope in The netherlands or really anywhere in Europe, it almost certainly wasn't tar, so I think he's pretty safe regarding that. Tar is a west coast US type of dope from mexico pretty much exclusively.
 
oh i see, then its a name mess

the antrax thing i meant was heroin, dont remember if number 3 or 4

we call here black tar to acetylated opium , thats why i was shocked many people saying to IV this, wich can be full of bacterias ( as any vegetal thing)

if anyone can upload a blak tar pic ( if its legal according to BL rules), i have curiosity. Is it like a type of heroin?
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
If it was dope in The netherlands or really anywhere in Europe, it almost certainly wasn't tar, so I think he's pretty safe regarding that. Tar is a west coast US type of dope from mexico pretty much exclusively.
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I've encountered tar sold in baloons in the southern part of Sweden a few times. But yes it's a pretty rare thing.
 
I've encountered tar sold in baloons in the southern part of Sweden a few times. But yes it's a pretty rare thing.
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Would that be from one or two users bringing it back with them/getting it posted and selling to friends or was that bought on the street?
 
It was bought from a friend I had down there, once in a blue moon he'd get some tar that was better than the usual #3. I never really asked where it came from because I never really cared. He used to send it to my anonymous mailbox where I picked it up. He was a daily heroin user so I guess he bought most of his stuff from the same dealer, so it could just be that one guy that imported it once in a while, sure.
 
El Barto said:
oh i see, then its a name mess

the antrax thing i meant was heroin, dont remember if number 3 or 4

we call here black tar to acetylated opium , thats why i was shocked many people saying to IV this, wich can be full of bacterias ( as any vegetal thing)

if anyone can upload a blak tar pic ( if its legal according to BL rules), i have curiosity. Is it like a type of heroin?
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Yes it's a type of heroin.. google mexican black tar heroin.
 
The whole anthrax thing im pretty sure was a result of a load of dope being hidden in cow hides of farm animals. Least that is what i heard.
 
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