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Question about using baking soda to potentiate amphetamines...

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JackiesBabyy

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Does it still alkalize my stomach if I put baking soda in to a few empty capsules and swallow them? Or do I have to mix it with water? I ask because baking soda+water has a very disgusting metallic taste to it that I can't stand.
 
You can just use TUMS if that bothers you.

Baking soda by itself should have the most profound effect, but I think of all the cinnamon challenge videos when I picture someone downing a spoon full of baking soda dry.
 
^Exactly, or any generic Tums (calcium carbonate). Much more pleasant than choking down baking soda solution...

Also, you shouldn't be taking baking soda that way. Mix it with water and drink the water once the baking soda is completely dissolved in the water (...or use the Tums method).
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
^Exactly, or any generic Tums (calcium carbonate). Much more pleasant than choking down baking soda solution...

Also, you shouldn't be taking baking soda that way. Mix it with water and drink the water once the baking soda is completely dissolved in the water (...or use the Tums method).
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Why doesn't it still work when you just put it in capsules? It's still an alkaline substance and I assume it dissolves once the gepcap opens in your stomach. As for tums, I would, but I don't have any right now and I'm too broke to go to the store and buy a bottle right now.(Literally, I have about 25 cents)
 
It still works, I'm just going by the side of my Arm & Hammer Baking Soda box which says that consuming non-dissolved baking soda is dangerous for the digestive system and you should only consume it once its completely dissolved in water. I have no idea what exact danger exists, however.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
It still works, I'm just going by the side of my Arm & Hammer Baking Soda box which says that consuming non-dissolved baking soda is dangerous for the digestive system and you should only consume it once its completely dissolved in water. I have no idea what exact danger exists, however.
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Maybe it's the same reason they ask you to turn off your cell phone on airplanes. They don't know if it's dangerous, but it might be so they have the rule anyway.
 
Rennie, tums, anything that will neutralise your stomach acid is what will increase absorption of amphetines. Calcium carbonate, baking soda, it's all the same really. The objective is a higher pH in the stomach - all antacids do this. You don't have to use baking soda specifically. Take it about an hour before you take your amphetamines and you will notice the difference.
 
Stay away from using baking soda or tums to potentiate amphetamines. Using potentiators in general is simply a bad idea, since your brain will adjust to the higher concentration of the drug in your bloodstream for a longer period of time, raising your tolerance to adjust to it, which means you will be forced to take your potentiators every single time you take a dose.

Ampetamines are already powerful and destructive enough, do you really need to potentiate them and risk even more neurotoxicity?
 
ErgicMergic said:
Stay away from using baking soda or tums to potentiate amphetamines. Using potentiators in general is simply a bad idea, since your brain will adjust to the higher concentration of the drug in your bloodstream for a longer period of time, raising your tolerance to adjust to it, which means you will be forced to take your potentiators every single time you take a dose.

Ampetamines are already powerful and destructive enough, do you really need to potentiate them and risk even more neurotoxicity?
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Don't be so alarmist, man. I'd worry about irreversible neurotoxicity if I had been an all day every day meth smoker for many years, but instead I stick to oral use and don't do it every single day and only binge once in a blue moon.
 
The reason they say to mix it with water is because it can make you sick if you just take the baking soda straight; it reacts with your stomach acid to cause bloating, nausea, pain/cramping and/or diarrhea. Basically sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) in water causes a chemical reaction, which alters the baking soda. If you put the baking soda directly into your stomach a different reaction happens with the stomach acid than if you were to put the baking soda in water first.

Baking soda also contains a lot of sodium - 1 tsp has 1231mg of sodium, (51% the RDA of a 2000 calorie diet). You also have to be careful about how much baking soda you are taking - people have been admitted to the hospital for alkalosis from taking baking soda.

Personally I prefer calcium or calcium/magnesium tablets. I hate the taste of baking soda.
 
JackiesBabyy said:
Don't be so alarmist, man. I'd worry about irreversible neurotoxicity if I had been an all day every day meth smoker for many years, but instead I stick to oral use and don't do it every single day and only binge once in a blue moon.
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I saw your thread in BDD about going psychotic from a four day meth binge a few hours ago, and was just trying to keep you safe, that's all. Bluelight is a harm reduction forum after all. If you had taken a bunch of baking soda during that meth binge, you might have permanently lost your mind. Baking soda potentiates amps so much that it can be unsafe, so just be safe so you can keep having fun with your drugs! ;)
 
ErgicMergic said:
I saw your thread in BDD about going psychotic from a four day meth binge a few hours ago, and was just trying to keep you safe, that's all. Bluelight is a harm reduction forum after all. If you had taken a bunch of baking soda during that meth binge, you might have permanently lost your mind. Baking soda potentiates amps so much that it can be unsafe, so just be safe so you can keep having fun with your drugs! ;)
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Haha yeah, thanks man. I read your post in a different tone, more like "IF YOU TAKE BAKING SODA WITH AMPHETAMINES YOUR BRAIN SHALL BECOME FRIED FOREVER AND EVER" like a PSA, hahaha.
 
i dont understand, potentiates? ive read all over the net baking soda will purify for a UA..some please explain to me the relationship between backing soda and meth?
 
kingtweaker92 said:
i dont understand, potentiates? ive read all over the net baking soda will purify for a UA..some please explain to me the relationship between backing soda and meth?
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I'll put it in the simpliest way possible. Baking soda makes meth better if you swallow the meth. That is all.
 
kingtweaker92 said:
i dont understand, potentiates? ive read all over the net baking soda will purify for a UA..some please explain to me the relationship between backing soda and meth?
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The acid in your stomach reduces the quantity of Speed before it reaches your bloodstream->Brain.

Baking soda/TUMS makes the stomach less "acidy" so whatever adderall, MDMA or crystal meth you took will have a higher "b i o a v a i l a b i l i t y" meaning more of the drug will hit your blood stream.

But if you're using other ROAs like smoking, plugging or shooting, then there's no point to it other than curing a stomach ache.
 
^Pretty close. Baking soda just makes some drugs absorb better from the stomach, by lowering the acidity of the stomach. But it's not that the stomach acid somehow destroys the drug or reduces the quantity, it's just that more absorbs into the bloodstream in a less acid environment. This depends on the drug though, some drugs absorb better in an acidic environment. With amphetamines, acidifying things will slow/reduce absorption, while alkalinizing things, like baking soda, will speed/increase absorption.

In addition, things that alkalinize the urine can decrease how much of the drug is excreted in the urine, which I think means more of it stays in your blood. I'm not sure whether this works for non-oral amphetamines - it might.

See this source:

Alkalinizing Agents: Gastrointestinal alkalinizing agents (sodium bicarbonate, etc.) increase absorption of amphetamines. Urinary alkalinizing agents (acetazolamide, some thiazides) increase the concentration of the non-ionized species of the amphetamine molecule, thereby decreasing urinary excretion. Both groups of agents increase blood levels and therefore potentiate the actions of amphetamines.

Acidifying Agents: Gastrointestinal acidifying agents (guanethidine, reserpine, glutamic acid HCl, ascorbic acid, fruit juices, etc.) lower absorption of amphetamines. Urinary acidifying agents (ammonium chloride, sodium acid phosphate, etc.) increase the concentration of the ionized species of the amphetamine molecule, thereby increasing urinary excretion. Both groups of agents lower blood levels and efficacy of amphetamines.
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U.U
I hate it when I get my information off.

Now my credentials are ruined and I have to change my forum name to "$uperTweakdaddy15"
 
I have been told that orange juice will potentiate meth.

I have been told that milk will reduce the effects.

I have been told nothing of baking soda. Or tums.

I must be talking to idiots?
 
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