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Stimulants Question about Parents and Perscriptions

illusionsl

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Okay, so I am 18, and I have a prescription to 40mg of Adderall. My parents however are very strict and refuse to trust me with my own prescription and keep it locked up. Do I legally hold the right to refuse them that ability and hold onto my own medication?
I am on their insurance and currently they do pay for the medication, but does that change anything? And if I pay for my own prescription while still on their insurance, does that take away any possible right they may have to hold onto my prescription and deny me access to it?
 
Well it's your prescription so you can refuse to allow them to hold your meds, but I don't see that going down well. I mean how do you plan on making them let you hold onto your own prescription? Calling the cops or threatening to do so? If you do that then expect to be off of their insurance plan, and paying for the doctors visit and meds on your own, and possibly paying for a lot more things if they kick you out for doing that. Basically their house their rules.
 
They do not hold any legal right to your medication whether they foot the bill or not. Although I can't imagine many cops would seriously enforce this, if they refused to give you YOUR prescription and you called the police, they could be charged with unlawful possession of a controlled substance.

How about if you want to get high you go to a dealer? If they are paying for your script, obviously they are giving it to you as you should be taking it and the only reason you'd want control over it was to abuse it. Just get your own drugs elsewhere or stop relying on your parents for financial support.
 
Technically no they can't control your medication but at the same time it seems you are financially dependent on your parents and they will use that against you so unless you have a lot of money and a place to live you will likely lose that battle
 
I am thinking that your parents may have a reason for not trusting you with your meds. Assuming you live in North America and there aren't any other circumstances like a court order involved, then technically they don't legally have the right to keep your meds from you, but they also don't legally have to support you financially and let you live with them, so I don't think it's worth the battle.
 
Your parents could very well be saving your ass from serious amphetamine addiction in a period of adolescence where you truly feel invincible enough to dodge anything ("Adderall addiction could never happen to me"). Some full-grown adults with previous addictions to their medications are very grateful to have their significant others or family hold on to their scripts and dole them out one by one.

40mg of daily Adderall is more than enough, no matter how bad your ADD is. The purpose of ADD medications is simply to make you more focused and alert, nothing more; basically, to bring your low prefrontal cortex DA levels up to normal, unproductive levels. If you want to abuse it to and raise that pf cortex DA levels past normal transmitting and in to abuse levels to get high, feel euphoria, become forcibly motivated so you can cram schoolwork, become unnaturally productive, and stay up late, then just go find someone with a script and buy some extra Adderall off of her.

Stop bitching about not having control over a prescription that you obtain for absolutely no cost to you through your parents' health insurance and through your parents' funding. Instead, be grateful that you should be so lucky to have that opportunity, and not to not be homeless with no parents around to look after you and fund your existence as an 18 year old adult.
 
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Okay, I understand where many of you are coming from, but you also don't have the full story. I can easily afford to pay for them. I have my own job and have held it for quite a long time, I run my own business from home, and the only reason they choose to pay for it is because they believe it gives them the right to deny me access without their specific permission. They have them locked up in the alcohol cabinet in the basement. I mean I can EASILY pick the lock and grab them, I honestly just wanted clarification on the law regarding this issue. My parents have known about my drug use and alcohol use. We have talked about it and they realize I am legally and adult and can make my own choices, whether they agree with them or not, and they don't see that being enough of a reason to kick me out unless I develop an addiction that could end up ruining my life.
My parents would not kick me out because they know that it would do nothing. My parents actually want me to live here and I have came very close to leaving on a few different occasions but ended up staying because we can to an agreement that worked for both of us. They know kicking me out really isn't something I am worried about as I can easily support myself and have many friends with their own houses/apartments who would be glad to give me a place to stay for any amount of time I need. Of course I would pitch in when it comes to paying for general stuff and keeping the place clean and in order. I guess I really just wanted to know where the legal line is drawn in this situation. This really isn't a huge problem because I am not just doing this for recreational use, but also because I know when I do and don't need it. I mainly need it for days that I work and I will usually take two before work to make it a little more tolerable and really do not need it in other cases because I don't have much else that causes trouble in the way of focusing and whatnot. I mean I always have trouble focusing, but trouble focusing on days when I don't work isn't a problem because I am not in school and do not have much that requires that amount of attention.


Edit: I also am not here for a lecture on what I should or should not be doing. I respect everyone's opinion assuming it is logical and has reason behind it, but I also have my own and I will decide these things for myself. I have a large amount of experience with drugs, I know a hell of a lot about them, I have been on Adderall for over 7 years and spent the last 4 occasionally using it recreationally after I had already studied up and knew what I was doing. I have many resources in the way of close friends who study this, sell, and have basically spent the majority of their lives being a recreational drug user without letting it interfere with everyday responsibilities and life in general. I do not mean to sound arrogant, but I do know what I am doing and as much as I appreciate people looking out for my own good, I am glad to make these decisions for myself and know my own limits and I know exactly what I am doing. I am not an average 18 year kid. Lets just say this is how I grew up.
 
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I hate to sound like a square, but I mean if you're still living under their care they probably have a right.
Even if you called the cops or some shit and they made them give you your script, what are the odds of your parents continuing to put a roof over your head?
I mean they're not legally responsible for you anymore since you're eighteen.

If you want to abuse your meds, move out and get your own place ;]
IMO if you're not responsible enough to support yourself, you're not responsible to take drugs on a recreational basis.

Adderall is fun though: let's be real :D
 
Okay, I understand where many of you are coming from, but you also don't have the full story. I can easily afford to pay for them. I have my own job and have held it for quite a long time, I run my own business from home, and the only reason they choose to pay for it is because they believe it gives them the right to deny me access without their specific permission. They have them locked up in the alcohol cabinet in the basement. I mean I can EASILY pick the lock and grab them, I honestly just wanted clarification on the law regarding this issue. My parents have known about my drug use and alcohol use. We have talked about it and they realize I am legally and adult and can make my own choices, whether they agree with them or not, and they don't see that being enough of a reason to kick me out unless I develop an addiction that could end up ruining my life.
My parents would not kick me out because they know that it would do nothing. My parents actually want me to live here and I have came very close to leaving on a few different occasions but ended up staying because we can to an agreement that worked for both of us. They know kicking me out really isn't something I am worried about as I can easily support myself and have many friends with their own houses/apartments who would be glad to give me a place to stay for any amount of time I need. Of course I would pitch in when it comes to paying for general stuff and keeping the place clean and in order. I guess I really just wanted to know where the legal line is drawn in this situation. This really isn't a huge problem because I am not just doing this for recreational use, but also because I know when I do and don't need it. I mainly need it for days that I work and I will usually take two before work to make it a little more tolerable and really do not need it in other cases because I don't have much else that causes trouble in the way of focusing and whatnot. I mean I always have trouble focusing, but trouble focusing on days when I don't work isn't a problem because I am not in school and do not have much that requires that amount of attention.


Edit: I also am not here for a lecture on what I should or should not be doing. I respect everyone's opinion assuming it is logical and has reason behind it, but I also have my own and I will decide these things for myself. I have a large amount of experience with drugs, I know a hell of a lot about them, I have been on Adderall for over 7 years and spent the last 4 occasionally using it recreationally after I had already studied up and knew what I was doing. I have many resources in the way of close friends who study this, sell, and have basically spent the majority of their lives being a recreational drug user without letting it interfere with everyday responsibilities and life in general. I do not mean to sound arrogant, but I do know what I am doing and as much as I appreciate people looking out for my own good, I am glad to make these decisions for myself and know my own limits and I know exactly what I am doing. I am not an average 18 year kid. Lets just say this is how I grew up.

Wait, I'm confused.
Your parents are paying for and withholding your prescription out of spite?

Look man, if you want it and can get to it, just empty out the capsules and refill them with the the cheese powder from some easy mac or some shit.
I'm sure I just broke a rule, HR forums aren't here to help you get high, and I'm probably gonna get bitched at, but hey at least you'll avoid conflict.

If there's more to this that I'm not able to comprehend at this particular moment in time then sorry.
 
I hate to sound like a square, but I mean if you're still living under their care they probably have a right.
Even if you called the cops or some shit and they made them give you your script, what are the odds of your parents continuing to put a roof over your head?
I mean they're not legally responsible for you anymore since you're eighteen.

If you want to abuse your meds, move out and get your own place ;]
IMO if you're not responsible enough to support yourself, you're not responsible to take drugs on a recreational basis.

Adderall is fun though: let's be real :D

The odds: slim
Am I responsible enough: yes
Can I support myself: yes
Why am I living under their roof: Because they want me to and I have the freedom to live how I want in a home where things like this do not cost me anything. You can call it immature, but I call it economic. In fact I would say anyone willing to pay for this stuff when they do not have to would be an idiot and obviously knows how to waste money. I don't mooch, I fulfill my expectations and do my part around the house just like every other person does. I carry my own weight. If they honestly don't want me living here anymore, I don't think this would have been the reason. In fact if they were going to kick me out for this they would have done it long ago. And if they do decide to, then so be it. I can support myself easily and will be happy to when I have to.
 
Yeah, OP... clearly you are too smart and knowledgeable to ever have a problem with drugs!

If you want to abuse your script (which doubling your dose for work certainly would be) then get your own drugs. Better yet, if you're so financially set and mature, move out pay for your own scripts and then it won't be an issue!

If you don't want people's opinions, don't post on a public forum.
 
Wait, I'm confused.
Your parents are paying for and withholding your prescription out of spite?

Look man, if you want it and can get to it, just empty out the capsules and refill them with the the cheese powder from some easy mac or some shit.
I'm sure I just broke a rule, HR forums aren't here to help you get high, and I'm probably gonna get bitched at, but hey at least you'll avoid conflict.

If there's more to this that I'm not able to comprehend at this particular moment in time then sorry.

Yes I have done this before. Honestly getting high isn't the problem here. The problem is simply just being in control of my own prescription, whether that means I have to pay for it or not. I wont lie, the stuff is amazing for recreational use, but that isn't my main intent here. If being high was all I cared about, man I would just go pick the lock on the damn cabinet and do this whenever the hell I want. I'm home alone a lot and could easily do it. The point is that even though I enjoy using Adderall this way from time to time, it is not and never will be my main concern. But thanks for the input rather than giving me some sort of lecture on how I am "immature" or "selfish" or "don't know what I'm doing." I just love how people can decided you are any of those when they know maybe a paragraph of information that doesn't even slightly talk about the areas of life that would determine whether or not I am any of those. I guess I forgot that they were the almighty judge and decided these things for everyone. It's okay, I understand, you just need to convince everyone to do things your way because anyone who doesn't is obviously a moron and you know what is best for us. Okay thanks for letting me know what you think. Now let me show you what my middle finger looks like.
 
I'm sorry if I sounded judgemental.
Seriously, I try to avoid sounding like an unrealistic and judgemental HR... Nazi? (best word I could come up with)
But I have to try and not get banned, so when somebody comes here in need of real advice I can try and help 'em out and not make them feel judged or stupid and maybe point them in the right direction. sometimes people come here in need of serious help. best of luck. sorry if i came of as a pretentious douche
 
Yeah, OP... clearly you are too smart and knowledgeable to ever have a problem with drugs!

If you want to abuse your script (which doubling your dose for work certainly would be) then get your own drugs. Better yet, if you're so financially set and mature, move out pay for your own scripts and then it won't be an issue!

If you don't want people's opinions, don't post on a public forum.

Yet another perfect example of the typical person who thinks they know everything and how we should all live. I'm sorry, I never claimed to know how everyone should live, but I sure as hell know enough to make these decisions for myself and not give two fucks what you think. I came here for clarification on the status of the law, not to be told what to do. And if it comes to that, I will. But until then I am going to do the financially smart thing and not pay for things I am not required to pay for. You can bitch at me and make all the judgement you want, but it honestly makes no difference to me. If you have problem with the way I live, then that is your problem and you obviously care a little to much considering you have never even met me. And if you honestly think you are saying anything I have not heard before, then you are a fucking moron. I don't know how else to put it. Leave the input to the question asked. Otherwise, don't waste your time. I honestly don't care and it won't change my mind. Unless you found a way to show me I am actually living "incorrectly" for a fact, you can piss off. Honestly, last time I checked I wasn't aware there was any set "correct" way to live and that you got to judge what that is.

If I want a lecture on what I should or shouldn't do, I'll ask. Guess what though, I never asked. Thanks for wasting your time with pointless posts about how you know exactly how I, someone you have never even met before, should live. I'm sorry but your logic seems a little fucked to me.
 
I'm sorry if I sounded judgemental.
Seriously, I try to avoid sounding like an unrealistic and judgemental HR... Nazi? (best word I could come up with)
But I have to try and not get banned, so when somebody comes here in need of real advice I can try and help 'em out and not make them feel judged or stupid and maybe point them in the right direction. sometimes people come here in need of serious help. best of luck. sorry if i came of as a pretentious douche

Actually you didn't. I was refering to the other users that don't even touch base on the question I asked and give me some sort of a lecture on how they know what's best for me and how I should live. You actually attempted to give some sort of input without bitching about how I'm obviously stupid and have no right to make my own choices like a few of the people here. Thank you for that and I'm sorry if you thought I was referring to you.

I'm just a little sick of people on a fucking drug forum taking something that I never even asked them and giving me a lecture on how they know more than I do and I should live the way they tell me to rather than thinking with my own god damn brain and choosing for myself. It is not your place and it is honestly very ignorant to think you know better than someone else and should tell them how to live and what choices to make. I'm sorry but I was given a brain for a reason and I am going to use it. If you want to conform yours into a copy of the rest of modern day society's brains, then go ahead, but don't expect me to join you.
 
Just so you know, this isn't considered a drug forum. It's a harm reduction forum.
Straight drug forums always feel a little uneducated and paranoid and shit.
I love Bluelight, but you have to watch out for HR trolls.
I've decided they're a necessary evil, but they do run off a lot of people in need of serious guidance.
 
If you want to conform yours into a copy of the rest of modern day society's brains, then go ahead, but don't expect me to join you.

You caught me. All I've ever wanted was to conform my brain into a copy of "modern day society's brains" and force you to join me. I don't know what I'm going to do now that that you've figured out my master plan. I hope you are happy because thanks to you, now I never will be.
 
You posted on a public forum, and now are bitching again about not receiving the exact answers you wanted?

I live with my parents, despite being a 22 year old college student who can easily support himself if he wanted, so I'm totally with you there. I love my parents, my brother, our home, and our cat, and think that anyone going through heavy anxieties through the best years of his life, to make sure they have living expenses on the table every month, is needlessly suffering if they didn't have to. If someone hated their parents, had a bad living situation, etc then it's worth it, but I agree with you for those falling on the other end of the spectrum.

Having said that, you have to see how incredibly immature you are with your last post, lol. You're getting defensive for absolutely no reason; no one told you how to live your life, YOU did. You chose to live with your parents and to have them pay for your prescriptions; they might have wanted you there, but they certainly didn't force you to stay. You keep saying that you can pay for your own prescription and not have to follow your parents' stringent rules, so either do so already or stop complaining about it. You have two choices here, either the logical one of not wasting money at the expense of following your parents' rules, or to pay for your own prescription and not have to follow those rules.

Your naivety cuts through your intelligence with your statement, "f you want to conform yours into a copy of the rest of modern day society's brains, then go ahead, but don't expect me to join you." This makes absolutely no sense, and shows how susceptible you are to the addictive tendencies of amphetamines. Your reasoning is clearly flawed in your whine-filled rants, and your reasoning can just as easily be flawed as you justify your possibly budding addiction. You can just argue that we are "conformed to autonomous, puritan societal norms where Adderall abuse is frowned upon," and that we "shouldn't expect [you] to join [us]." You're a fucking eighteen year old; no matter how "intelligent" you think you might be, your reasoning has not been fully developed in your developing brain, and you will easily justify your addictions and actions without seeing the obvious flaws in your doing so.
 
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Great post, EM. Unfortunately it will probably have little to no impact.

Stop telling him how to live! He didn't ask you to!
 
Thanks! :)

I had figured it would have little impact, I just love to dissect fallacies of reasoning that the speaker is too blind to catch himself.

Oh look, there I go again, telling the OP how to live his life 8)
 
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