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Question about Meth and the effects

loyalspirit

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I did a lot and a lot of reading on meth and I am aware of the negative side effects
that come with it. I still want to try it and if I do end up liking the high and have a
good time being on meth I would only do it once every few months so I don't end up
getting addicted to it. One of my main concerns is could you easily overheat when you're
on the drug compared to ecstasy? Let's say you take a small dose, is it still a great
possibility? Do you have to follow the same rule as when you take ecstasy in terms
of drinking a bottle of water per hr so you wouldn't dehydrate?

I just wanted to get some advice from users who has experience with meth.
 
Hi Loyalspirit,

In all seriousness, doing meth isn't going to make your life so much better better and not doing meth isn't likely to make your life worse.


It is not a road you want to head down on. Plenty of people do it for a bit of recreational and believe that they are in control... it really only is when you are scrambling to get away from the stuff that you will find that it will haunt your mind possibly for the rest of your life.


You can heat up pretty easily in any situation but while under the influence of meth yeah, shit starts to get hot pretty quickly, whats this drinking a bottle of water every hour? It is important for the human body to stay hydrated (regardless whether one is tweaking off their nut or not) but if this is 1L ERRYHOUR you are talking about that is just asking for trouble.

Less of a dose the less likely you are to become overheated, like MDMA.

Just keep sipping on water... its not LIFE THREATENING if you aren't consuming too much, just don't go around wearing polar thermal arctic explorer gear if all you are doing is sitting around your house smoking meth. Just wear normal clothes according to the climate.


Keep reading everything in the time being and get a lot of perspectives. Not smoking meth in the meantime will not screw your life up completely in the meantime. There's way too many people that say "I'll only try it once... every few months.... weekends... daily" this slope is one of the slipperiest I just can't stress that enough.



Stay safe. <3
 
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I agree completely with what afterlyfestyle said, recreational Meth use is mostly asking for trouble.

The drug is very harsh on the body, stresses the fuck out of your heart, has a very big addictive potential, is directly neurotoxic and quite frankly gives mediocre high at best. Not to mention it's probably the dirtiest drug you can have in terms of adulterants/impurities.

Meth can be a very beneficial tool for productiveness and performance enhancement in small oral doses, but it's just not a substance that was meant for recreation. It feels pharmaceutical and toxic in recreational doses. Not to mention it wears out it's own welcome long before the high is over(it's just so annoyingly long lasting).

It's the only drug i've taken that made me feel in acute physical danger(extremely elevated heart rate, occasional shortness of breath and eerie numbness in the limbs).

Now to address your question - You can overheat on Meth just like on any other stimulant. It won't elevate your body temperature as much as MDMA because it doesn't interfere with the body's heat regulation as much, but you should definitely stay properly hydrated(1 bottle every hour is exaggerated, just have water with you at all times and drink as needed. Especially if you plan on dancing or doing physical activities).

The bigger danger with Meth is the elevation in heart rate and BP - this is a real concern, especially when you have no tolerance. Take small doses at first(no more than 20mg if you have access to the dosage. Wait at least an hour before deciding whether that's enough for you or not, and go up by increments of 10 if needed). Keep in mind that the high will most probably be much more subtle than you expect, don't take much more thinking you didn't take enough and don't expect it to be as wholistic and intense as MDMA or psychedelics. I would also recommend you do not keep redosing in an attempt to recreate the initial rush. Meth has an absurdly long half life(9-11 hours!!) and redosing at short intervals can lead to dangerously high plasma concentrations, which in turn can put you in real risk of having a cardiac event.

I want to stress again that this is poor and dangerous recreation. Amphetamines are tools to be used in very low doses, not drugs to get you fucked up. You will be much safer, have a better time and have a much more meaningful experience just tripping/rolling.

Have fun and stay safe :)
 
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I have lots of experience with meth. My advice is to heed the above posters' advice and stay away. Recreational dosing of meth almost always leads to a full blown addiction. It's, in my opinion, the most dangerous drug available due to its addictive properties and the self destructive, repetitive behavior often associated with meth abuse.

Also, realize that you are nothing special. Every meth addict you've ever met never planned to use so frequently. As said previously, it's so easy for novice users to convince themselves they have their life under control on meth. You get shit done, you have motivation, you feel awesome. That doesn't last.

I used meth for a decade, and I regret every single dose. The addiction haunts me everyday

Alas, you're going to do what you're going to do, and asking bluelight for advice is a good move. You don't need to drink quite so much water as MDMA; the reason you're advised to drink so much h20 on ecstasy is because its often associated with dancing / dance parties
 
Meth just gives an awful high and it costs so much. It's good that you're being precatious though. Are you 100% sure you want to try this?

If you just want to get high smoke some weed or go buy alcohol.
 
I knew i'd have to respond to this thread, even though i don't want to because i can write a whole page for you on meth and effects. Short and simple, i've only had many recreational experiences with meth (never no tolerance or addiction) so i can tell you a few things. Snorting is usually more common when you first use it recreationally then soon you might progress to smoking it like i did towards the last times i used meth, never IV though.

Assuming your gonna snort it, it's gonna burn like hell, smoking it would be better off with someone more experienced doing it for you (twisting the shit back and forth slowly lmao i used to wonder, heating it right etc) but either way, it's like a zing of energy. The body high depends on the purity of the drug, sometimes you don't really feel much except for real happy and talkative but no physical body high. And many other times you might be lucky to feel a little lighter/energetic with tingling sensations running through your body while feeling like everything is perfect.

Meth has produced some of the most intense euphoria (amazing feeling) i have had from any other drug experience and i've mostly tried all them mainly the main ones atleast once. However from not even doing a large amount, usually you start feeling like shit when it wears off usually around 16-18 hours from snorted, and 10-12 hours after smoking it (decent quality meth). I never fell asleep for atleast 36 hours from my recreational dose of every few months of snorting two lines back to back, no redosing/binging etc. You most likely will feel no appetite or desire for food, you might talk a lot or be focused on doing something else while being more interested in whatever your doing (even if its boring stuff). You will probably think a lot faster, and feel more creative but all that goes away when coming down. You'll most likely feel very depressed, anxious, irritated and physically your heart rate might be pounding, you probably will have a headache (make sure to eat a little and drink water on it most people dont) your muscles will not only feel sore but real tense, and some other symptoms.

Try to have some sort of benzo (anxiety medicine) for when the meth wears off and you feel like shit, or a low dose pain killer (opiate). If you don't have access to either a few drinks of your choice will certainly help (alcohol works better for coming off amphetamines for me better than benzos) and you only have to have a small amount of alcohol. If for some reason you cannot even obtain alcohol or can't drink, than um drink a lot of green tea, take vitamin c, take something that helps you fall asleep it can be over the counter.

-Some piece of advice
 
Meth just gives an awful high and it costs so much. It's good that you're being precatious though. Are you 100% sure you want to try this?

If you just want to get high smoke some weed or go buy alcohol.

Yes I am very sure that I want to try this

Like I said the only concern I had was overheating on meth (I had a bad episode of this when I took ecstasy and I highly highly doubt I'll ever touch ecstasy/mdma again) I was looking for a drug that could make me talkative and increase my confidence cause I suffer from social anxiety (which is why I've been single for so many years) and yes I've seek counselors but they haven't helped one bit. Ecstasy has in fact helped me with having confidence but again the
symptoms I had when I overheated on ecstasy scared me shitless and I vowed to never touch it again.

I've read about meth for years and I wanted to give it a go.
 
Yes I am very sure that I want to try this

Like I said the only concern I had was overheating on meth (I had a bad episode of this when I took ecstasy and I highly highly doubt I'll ever touch ecstasy/mdma again) I was looking for a drug that could make me talkative and increase my confidence cause I suffer from social anxiety (which is why I've been single for so many years) and yes I've seek counselors but they haven't helped one bit. Ecstasy has in fact helped me with having confidence but again the
symptoms I had when I overheated on ecstasy scared me shitless and I vowed to never touch it again.

I've read about meth for years and I wanted to give it a go.

Doing meth is probably not the best way to anything BUT ruin. Too many times it's ruined relationships - instead of helped - for me to recommend it for that purpose. Overheating? Ya, so don't do it. Law problems too, which wont help your anxiety.
 
I don't see why every one and his mum feels the need to reply to a meth thread with the cliche 'don't do it man, you'll get addicted' scaremongering...I'm sure the guy is well aware of meth's addiction potential, he wasn't asking about that.

Anyway, I don't think overheating is as big as a deal as you're making it out to be. Most MDMA users overheat if they're dancing all night long. Just have a glass of water every hour if you want to keep yourself hydrated, but for gods sake not a litre! That will cause even worse problems and likely lead to death if you drink like 10 litres and 10 hours.
 
I did a lot and a lot of reading on meth and I am aware of the negative side effects
that come with it. I still want to try it and if I do end up liking the high and have a
good time being on meth I would only do it once every few months so I don't end up
getting addicted to it. One of my main concerns is could you easily overheat when you're
on the drug compared to ecstasy? Let's say you take a small dose, is it still a great
possibility? Do you have to follow the same rule as when you take ecstasy in terms
of drinking a bottle of water per hr so you wouldn't dehydrate?

I just wanted to get some advice from users who has experience with meth.


HI. i just got done sort of replying to your post but it ended up being a VEERRRY long manifesto of a first time user who most likely did to much to quick, and im still very high. ill tell you what i learned (please go check out my thread). i did notice that i was pretty warm. it was cold enough outside that you really needed a heavy jacket and id put it on before going outside but after 5-10 mins id get warm and take it off and feel fine in the cold without the jacket. you dont feel hot tho at all, not by touch or anything else you just notice youre warmer than usual im guessing due to the heart and blood stream working overtime. another thing, just like with ecstacy you NEED to be drinking water the whole time, or gatorade or something because meth will quickly dehydrate you and if you read my thread youll find out what happens when you dont know exactly what youre doing... it was amazing and fun for the first 6=7 hours but then it changed... read my thread. as far as taking a small dose no youll be fine, i started yesterday out with 10.00 worth.. 4 tiny rocks. i snorted two and smoked two, i neede to find out which way i would prefer doing it. i chose to smoke it but i did do maybe 3 lines also, very small ones tho like a half inch long. but that tiny bit i started out doing made me feel AMAZING. i was back over at his house within 20 minutes to buy more. i was supposed to get blues, roxies... but i got *snip NO PRICES* worth ( and about 9 hours later i had *snip NO PRICES* brought to me and i got another *snip NO PRICES* bag). but, BUT, you need to understand, and if you do it youll see for yourself.. i didnt go straight over there to buy more cause i was fiending, i did it cause i always wanted to try it and the 3 times i tried it before yesterday, i never felt anything. this time i did so i decided i would spend the day and night at that house, about 7 of us total doing it, and sporatically throughout the day people would stop by. fuck sorry im getting off track, damn tweaked out mind. ok please, please, please listen to me.. if you read my thread youl see me talk about what im about to say to you. they didnt do this for me and they should have cause i was a first timer (like how people on acid need someone sober with them the first time they do it). ok, so if youre going to try it just buy like 20.00 worth. that will keep you high for 2 days if you do it right. make sure youre with someone whos experienced with the drug and ask him to monitor you so you dont accidentally do to much in to short of a time period. thats how i got sick. they all knew it was my first time but no one ever said anything to me about the amount i was doing because i didnt know any better, i wasnt famillar with this drugs and how it works. i thought it would be like coke/crack. with those you pretty much have to do a hit every 20-45 mins cause the high is strong and hard but doesnt last lng. meth on the other hand will last hours on a good hit. i DIDNT KNOW THIS i thought i was ok because no one said anything to me. atleast you were smart enough to research it. god i wish i can turn back time to 10"30am yesterday and research meth after i did my first successful hit. i wouldnt have gone threw what i did. but dont get me wrong, it was amazing all day then sometime around 10pm i suddenly got an intense stomach ache and felt like i was about to puke my guts up every time i stood. i tried to make myself throw up thinking it would help but beause of the dry mouth and lack of food it was impossible. none of the people i was there with ever had this problem so i started asking how much they did their first time and every single one of them said either *snip* worth for the whole day/night or *snip* worth and here i was doing *snip* to my head in less than 12 hours. most of the people i didnt know but we all got along, 3 of them were close friends... one i had known since 2nd grade, the other 2 ive been buying from since 2006. i can excuse the people i didnt know for not saying anything but my friends should have especially since they KNEW it was my first time. also i noticed that if youre alone, not doing anything, or especially not talking to anyone you started to get this odd depressed feeling which can lead to the paranois. for a good hour or 2 i reall y thought everyone was avoiding me, and talkng about me but i made myself get up and go over to whereever people were and just start some random conversation and id be fine, no more paranoia. i hope i told you everything you really should, no.. need to do your first time so you can learn it 100% -- i hope im not leaving anything out... but honestly pretty much all of this stuff shouldnt, and most likely wont happen to you or be a problem as long as you heed my most sincere, not fucking around rule. DO NOT TAKE ALOT YOUR FIRST TIME ESPECIALLY, GOD DAMN ESPECIALL YI N LESS THAN 24 HOURS. if you take it easy, dont over do it and be responsible youll have an amazing time, the whole time. also, its a good idea to have some xanax, or oxys when you run out so you dont feel the full effect of coming down off the drug. i have no info about this becausw after what happened to me, they tried to help me as much as possible by doing exactly that.. gave me some xanie bars and a 30mg oxy. i didnt feel that horrible coming down feeling. but also, ive only experience a drugs hard come down with coke, and crack and im sure meth is different. because meth lasts so long im guessing you might not even feel very bad coming down when you run out (without havin xanies or blues). im pretty confident in saying this even tho ive never came down without having xanies cause as i said my first time ended badly, but im confident in saying you can probably come down off meth without xanax or oxys and i dont think it would be very bad because the drug lasts so long. with coke, you do a line and get an enormous, intense high.. probably my favorite high, but it only last a short period. a new user, lines can last up to an hour or more, but if youve done it a few times and you do a binge night, they slowly stop lasting as long and eventually you can do a nice sized line and feel a little high for like 15 mins. its because of this intense short acting high that i believe is why coming down off of cocaine is sooooo god damn miserable. YOU NEED XANAX OR OXYS OR SOMETHING when coming down off coke. well you dont need them, but goddamn youll be glad if you do. fuck me sorry, my tweaked out mind is doing what it did in the thread i posted im just rambling now so im going to stop. respond to this or PM me, let me knowwhen you do it and how it was.. and please, read my thread its important. i need peoples answers and opinions so i can evaluate my state of mind after doing so much effing meth. its very important so you, and anyone reading this post.. read my thread please. i beg of you

I knew i'd have to respond to this thread, even though i don't want to because i can write a whole page for you on meth and effects. Short and simple, i've only had many recreational experiences with meth (never no tolerance or addiction) so i can tell you a few things. Snorting is usually more common when you first use it recreationally then soon you might progress to smoking it like i did towards the last times i used meth, never IV though.

Assuming your gonna snort it, it's gonna burn like hell, smoking it would be better off with someone more experienced doing it for you (twisting the shit back and forth slowly lmao i used to wonder, heating it right etc) but either way, it's like a zing of energy. The body high depends on the purity of the drug, sometimes you don't really feel much except for real happy and talkative but no physical body high. And many other times you might be lucky to feel a little lighter/energetic with tingling sensations running through your body while feeling like everything is perfect.

Meth has produced some of the most intense euphoria (amazing feeling) i have had from any other drug experience and i've mostly tried all them mainly the main ones atleast once. However from not even doing a large amount, usually you start feeling like shit when it wears off usually around 16-18 hours from snorted, and 10-12 hours after smoking it (decent quality meth). I never fell asleep for atleast 36 hours from my recreational dose of every few months of snorting two lines back to back, no redosing/binging etc. You most likely will feel no appetite or desire for food, you might talk a lot or be focused on doing something else while being more interested in whatever your doing (even if its boring stuff). You will probably think a lot faster, and feel more creative but all that goes away when coming down. You'll most likely feel very depressed, anxious, irritated and physically your heart rate might be pounding, you probably will have a headache (make sure to eat a little and drink water on it most people dont) your muscles will not only feel sore but real tense, and some other symptoms.

Try to have some sort of benzo (anxiety medicine) for when the meth wears off and you feel like shit, or a low dose pain killer (opiate). If you don't have access to either a few drinks of your choice will certainly help (alcohol works better for coming off amphetamines for me better than benzos) and you only have to have a small amount of alcohol. If for some reason you cannot even obtain alcohol or can't drink, than um drink a lot of green tea, take vitamin c, take something that helps you fall asleep it can be over the counter.

-Some piece of advice



hey, i dont know meth users other than the people i met yesterday so i dont have anyone to ask but when you did meth, did your back get sore? a few of the people i was with said it was normak. i wasnt even moving that much. if i did move it was to go the bathroom, get a drink, or on ocassion id just get up and pace around the house for 5 mins or so looking at shit. other than that i was sitting 87% of the time and i noticed my back was sore. it didnt hurt, not like any kind of pain.. just... i dont know its hard to explain. i guess you can say it was tensed up? like how if you do alil work and are lifting things alot, your back will just feel a bit tense. i dont want to say sore because that i think implys there was pain involved, even if it was almost unnoticable pain cause there was none. just.. tense, kind of tight.


also i agree with the euphoria and talking alot. although it doesnt feel nearly as nice as coke or ecstacy, but if i felt it and it made me talk then it had to be good. i have clinical anxiety and its insanely hard to have a conversation with people, even the ones ive known for years. i can go days, even weeks without saying a single word, this social anxiety and fear is worse than it used to be. i lost my good friends over the crazy chick i maried so now the only times i really talk to anybody is if i have to, like if i have to call someone about a bill... or see a dr, or go to a grocery store. but even in those situations, i wont talk.. ill make them talk and ill answer with 1 or 2 word responses. my point is, besides the xanax i take that allows me to talk to people without fear, drugs like meth, coke, crack, ecstacy have been my favorite things to do because of the high confidense it gives you and the ability to talk. on meth tho, i noticed i wont think about what im about to say or ask someone it just happens almost instantly once i decide im going to talk. but the other drugs, i do alot of the time think of something to say, like what would be a good conversation starter. oh. my. god. im doing it again. im rambling.. im still tweaking heavily from my first meth use. whoever reads my posts and the thread i made when im still high might find it, uh... cant think of the word... so ill say fun. but, i think im also giving alot of you a good opportunity to see into the mind of someone who did meth for the first time and did waaaayyyy to much in a very short time. i wonder if any of you are psychologists, if so would you wirte a thread about the things ive been typing this morning. i really wonder if it is noticeable, or how noticeable it is that im on some sort of drug. if i hadnt said i was still on an all day first time use meth binge, would you think im knda nuts? i cannot self evaluate myself in my condition, but i will come back and read all i wrote when im sober and see how drastic the two styles are.

Yes I am very sure that I want to try this

Like I said the only concern I had was overheating on meth (I had a bad episode of this when I took ecstasy and I highly highly doubt I'll ever touch ecstasy/mdma again) I was looking for a drug that could make me talkative and increase my confidence cause I suffer from social anxiety (which is why I've been single for so many years) and yes I've seek counselors but they haven't helped one bit. Ecstasy has in fact helped me with having confidence but again the
symptoms I had when I overheated on ecstasy scared me shitless and I vowed to never touch it again.


i think ecstacy is by far hands down the most amazing drug there is. im the same way you are, severe social anxiety. the insane confidence you get on E coupled with the amazing body buzz is heaven but for me that stuff is icing on the cake because when i take it, god i can talk to anyone about anything, always have something to say, quickly make friends, an 3 out of the 6 times ive done it i was able to pickup a female in less than 5 minutes. i remember the first girl i picked up, i was maybe 17 or 18, this was i think my first time doing E so me and some friends went to the bowling alley on the weekend where theyd turn off all the lights, then turn on black lights, have a dj, all kinds of cool shit for a place teens could hang out, cause there aint shit to do in the county i live in. anyway, i saw this girl in there and i was actually feeling very cocky due to the huge confidence boost, so i saw her and i noticed she kept checking me so i went over and talked to her. turns out she was there with er boyfriend, but when im not feeling anxious or having any kind of a panic attack, im a ladies man through and through and im sure it doesnt hurt that im a damn good looking kid. anyway so what happened was is she was leaning against a wall watching him bowl and i went over and leaned against the wall right up on her. i did this to see what shed say or if shed move. she did neither she looked at me and smiled and we started talkingi dont have a clue what i said to her this was 12 years ago but she was into me and she ditched whoever the guy was she was there with. we hung out the rest of the night, exchanged numbers, and sort of kept in contact. at the time i wasnt looking for any sort of relationship, not even a quick one night stand. i was testing myself on the opposite sex. i was building my own confidence (i did this sober as well, at the time the anxiety i began having a few years prior i was able to kill because i was making myself face it. yea so all i was doing was seeing what it would take to get this girl to like me more. its common sense if youre checking a girl out and she keeps looking at you, youre feeling each other. physical attraction that was the easy part. the harder, and fun part (to me anywa) was the game to find out who she is, what kind of girl she is and how much of an impression i can make on her. i did this alot during my 17-18 yr old range, and u know what... just like all my other posts i have no idea how i got on this subject or why im going so in depth about something you guys dont care about. maybe i should start a blog to write in on the times im on meth... id probably type the equivalent of about 400 pages of a novel in the first 4 hours. it wouldnt make a lick of sense tho. ok im going to end this random nonsense rant.

the girl at the bowling alley, was the only one out of all the girls i met and talked to that i kept in touch with. not on purpose, by chance. id go see a friend at their new apartment, turns out this girl was also a friend of theirs. that was the first time we hung out since the bowling alley and this time we did get a little physical but nothing ever happened after that. years went by, now were in the timeline where ive already started doing pills and im pretty much a junkie at this point. anyway so i meet a guy who says he can get them, this guy turns out to be her goddamn brother. me and her were inseperable from then on out for a good solid year.we werent dating per se, but if you saw us youd never know.. we slept together, i mean we acted lik3 a couple i dont know why we never made it official. well that year we were together was sad also cause this amazing, pretty girl, was also now a full blown oxy junkie and im the type that wants to help people get sober and of drugs as much as i can even if im taking them but i never stopped her or tried. oh my god the rambling happened again and right after i ended the last paragraph where i was trying to make myself stop. ok quick, me and her are still best friends to this day, but were both still junkies, i have no idea why i told this story maybe because op said something about not dating in years but ok i have to pretty much force myself to stop typing or ill get into a new subject so ok bye
 
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HI. i just got done sort of replying to your post but it ended up being a VEERRRY long manifesto of a first time user who most likely did to much to quick, and im still very high. ill tell you what i learned (please go check out my thread). i did notice that i was pretty warm. it was cold enough outside that you really needed a heavy jacket and id put it on before going outside but after 5-10 mins id get warm and take it off and feel fine in the cold without the jacket. you dont feel hot tho at all, not by touch or anything else you just notice youre warmer than usual im guessing due to the heart and blood stream working overtime. another thing, just like with ecstacy you NEED to be drinking water the whole time, or gatorade or something because meth will quickly dehydrate you and if you read my thread youll find out what happens when you dont know exactly what youre doing... it was amazing and fun for the first 6=7 hours but then it changed... read my thread. as far as taking a small dose no youll be fine, i started yesterday out with 10.00 worth.. 4 tiny rocks. i snorted two and smoked two, i neede to find out which way i would prefer doing it. i chose to smoke it but i did do maybe 3 lines also, very small ones tho like a half inch long. but that tiny bit i started out doing made me feel AMAZING. i was back over at his house within 20 minutes to buy more. i was supposed to get blues, roxies... but i got *snip NO PRICES* worth ( and about 9 hours later i had *snip NO PRICES* brought to me and i got another *snip NO PRICES* bag). but, BUT, you need to understand, and if you do it youll see for yourself.. i didnt go straight over there to buy more cause i was fiending, i did it cause i always wanted to try it and the 3 times i tried it before yesterday, i never felt anything. this time i did so i decided i would spend the day and night at that house, about 7 of us total doing it, and sporatically throughout the day people would stop by. fuck sorry im getting off track, damn tweaked out mind. ok please, please, please listen to me.. if you read my thread youl see me talk about what im about to say to you. they didnt do this for me and they should have cause i was a first timer (like how people on acid need someone sober with them the first time they do it). ok, so if youre going to try it just buy like 20.00 worth. that will keep you high for 2 days if you do it right. make sure youre with someone whos experienced with the drug and ask him to monitor you so you dont accidentally do to much in to short of a time period. thats how i got sick. they all knew it was my first time but no one ever said anything to me about the amount i was doing because i didnt know any better, i wasnt famillar with this drugs and how it works. i thought it would be like coke/crack. with those you pretty much have to do a hit every 20-45 mins cause the high is strong and hard but doesnt last lng. meth on the other hand will last hours on a good hit. i DIDNT KNOW THIS i thought i was ok because no one said anything to me. atleast you were smart enough to research it. god i wish i can turn back time to 10"30am yesterday and research meth after i did my first successful hit. i wouldnt have gone threw what i did. but dont get me wrong, it was amazing all day then sometime around 10pm i suddenly got an intense stomach ache and felt like i was about to puke my guts up every time i stood. i tried to make myself throw up thinking it would help but beause of the dry mouth and lack of food it was impossible. none of the people i was there with ever had this problem so i started asking how much they did their first time and every single one of them said either *snip* worth for the whole day/night or *snip* worth and here i was doing *snip* to my head in less than 12 hours. most of the people i didnt know but we all got along, 3 of them were close friends... one i had known since 2nd grade, the other 2 ive been buying from since 2006. i can excuse the people i didnt know for not saying anything but my friends should have especially since they KNEW it was my first time. also i noticed that if youre alone, not doing anything, or especially not talking to anyone you started to get this odd depressed feeling which can lead to the paranois. for a good hour or 2 i reall y thought everyone was avoiding me, and talkng about me but i made myself get up and go over to whereever people were and just start some random conversation and id be fine, no more paranoia. i hope i told you everything you really should, no.. need to do your first time so you can learn it 100% -- i hope im not leaving anything out... but honestly pretty much all of this stuff shouldnt, and most likely wont happen to you or be a problem as long as you heed my most sincere, not fucking around rule. DO NOT TAKE ALOT YOUR FIRST TIME ESPECIALLY, GOD DAMN ESPECIALL YI N LESS THAN 24 HOURS. if you take it easy, dont over do it and be responsible youll have an amazing time, the whole time. also, its a good idea to have some xanax, or oxys when you run out so you dont feel the full effect of coming down off the drug. i have no info about this becausw after what happened to me, they tried to help me as much as possible by doing exactly that.. gave me some xanie bars and a 30mg oxy. i didnt feel that horrible coming down feeling. but also, ive only experience a drugs hard come down with coke, and crack and im sure meth is different. because meth lasts so long im guessing you might not even feel very bad coming down when you run out (without havin xanies or blues). im pretty confident in saying this even tho ive never came down without having xanies cause as i said my first time ended badly, but im confident in saying you can probably come down off meth without xanax or oxys and i dont think it would be very bad because the drug lasts so long. with coke, you do a line and get an enormous, intense high.. probably my favorite high, but it only last a short period. a new user, lines can last up to an hour or more, but if youve done it a few times and you do a binge night, they slowly stop lasting as long and eventually you can do a nice sized line and feel a little high for like 15 mins. its because of this intense short acting high that i believe is why coming down off of cocaine is sooooo god damn miserable. YOU NEED XANAX OR OXYS OR SOMETHING when coming down off coke. well you dont need them, but goddamn youll be glad if you do. fuck me sorry, my tweaked out mind is doing what it did in the thread i posted im just rambling now so im going to stop. respond to this or PM me, let me knowwhen you do it and how it was.. and please, read my thread its important. i need peoples answers and opinions so i can evaluate my state of mind after doing so much effing meth. its very important so you, and anyone reading this post.. read my thread please. i beg of you





hey, i dont know meth users other than the people i met yesterday so i dont have anyone to ask but when you did meth, did your back get sore? a few of the people i was with said it was normak. i wasnt even moving that much. if i did move it was to go the bathroom, get a drink, or on ocassion id just get up and pace around the house for 5 mins or so looking at shit. other than that i was sitting 87% of the time and i noticed my back was sore. it didnt hurt, not like any kind of pain.. just... i dont know its hard to explain. i guess you can say it was tensed up? like how if you do alil work and are lifting things alot, your back will just feel a bit tense. i dont want to say sore because that i think implys there was pain involved, even if it was almost unnoticable pain cause there was none. just.. tense, kind of tight.


also i agree with the euphoria and talking alot. although it doesnt feel nearly as nice as coke or ecstacy, but if i felt it and it made me talk then it had to be good. i have clinical anxiety and its insanely hard to have a conversation with people, even the ones ive known for years. i can go days, even weeks without saying a single word, this social anxiety and fear is worse than it used to be. i lost my good friends over the crazy chick i maried so now the only times i really talk to anybody is if i have to, like if i have to call someone about a bill... or see a dr, or go to a grocery store. but even in those situations, i wont talk.. ill make them talk and ill answer with 1 or 2 word responses. my point is, besides the xanax i take that allows me to talk to people without fear, drugs like meth, coke, crack, ecstacy have been my favorite things to do because of the high confidense it gives you and the ability to talk. on meth tho, i noticed i wont think about what im about to say or ask someone it just happens almost instantly once i decide im going to talk. but the other drugs, i do alot of the time think of something to say, like what would be a good conversation starter. oh. my. god. im doing it again. im rambling.. im still tweaking heavily from my first meth use. whoever reads my posts and the thread i made when im still high might find it, uh... cant think of the word... so ill say fun. but, i think im also giving alot of you a good opportunity to see into the mind of someone who did meth for the first time and did waaaayyyy to much in a very short time. i wonder if any of you are psychologists, if so would you wirte a thread about the things ive been typing this morning. i really wonder if it is noticeable, or how noticeable it is that im on some sort of drug. if i hadnt said i was still on an all day first time use meth binge, would you think im knda nuts? i cannot self evaluate myself in my condition, but i will come back and read all i wrote when im sober and see how drastic the two styles are.

Yes I am very sure that I want to try this

Like I said the only concern I had was overheating on meth (I had a bad episode of this when I took ecstasy and I highly highly doubt I'll ever touch ecstasy/mdma again) I was looking for a drug that could make me talkative and increase my confidence cause I suffer from social anxiety (which is why I've been single for so many years) and yes I've seek counselors but they haven't helped one bit. Ecstasy has in fact helped me with having confidence but again the
symptoms I had when I overheated on ecstasy scared me shitless and I vowed to never touch it again.


i think ecstacy is by far hands down the most amazing drug there is. im the same way you are, severe social anxiety. the insane confidence you get on E coupled with the amazing body buzz is heaven but for me that stuff is icing on the cake because when i take it, god i can talk to anyone about anything, always have something to say, quickly make friends, an 3 out of the 6 times ive done it i was able to pickup a female in less than 5 minutes. i remember the first girl i picked up, i was maybe 17 or 18, this was i think my first time doing E so me and some friends went to the bowling alley on the weekend where theyd turn off all the lights, then turn on black lights, have a dj, all kinds of cool shit for a place teens could hang out, cause there aint shit to do in the county i live in. anyway, i saw this girl in there and i was actually feeling very cocky due to the huge confidence boost, so i saw her and i noticed she kept checking me so i went over and talked to her. turns out she was there with er boyfriend, but when im not feeling anxious or having any kind of a panic attack, im a ladies man through and through and im sure it doesnt hurt that im a damn good looking kid. anyway so what happened was is she was leaning against a wall watching him bowl and i went over and leaned against the wall right up on her. i did this to see what shed say or if shed move. she did neither she looked at me and smiled and we started talkingi dont have a clue what i said to her this was 12 years ago but she was into me and she ditched whoever the guy was she was there with. we hung out the rest of the night, exchanged numbers, and sort of kept in contact. at the time i wasnt looking for any sort of relationship, not even a quick one night stand. i was testing myself on the opposite sex. i was building my own confidence (i did this sober as well, at the time the anxiety i began having a few years prior i was able to kill because i was making myself face it. yea so all i was doing was seeing what it would take to get this girl to like me more. its common sense if youre checking a girl out and she keeps looking at you, youre feeling each other. physical attraction that was the easy part. the harder, and fun part (to me anywa) was the game to find out who she is, what kind of girl she is and how much of an impression i can make on her. i did this alot during my 17-18 yr old range, and u know what... just like all my other posts i have no idea how i got on this subject or why im going so in depth about something you guys dont care about. maybe i should start a blog to write in on the times im on meth... id probably type the equivalent of about 400 pages of a novel in the first 4 hours. it wouldnt make a lick of sense tho. ok im going to end this random nonsense rant.

the girl at the bowling alley, was the only one out of all the girls i met and talked to that i kept in touch with. not on purpose, by chance. id go see a friend at their new apartment, turns out this girl was also a friend of theirs. that was the first time we hung out since the bowling alley and this time we did get a little physical but nothing ever happened after that. years went by, now were in the timeline where ive already started doing pills and im pretty much a junkie at this point. anyway so i meet a guy who says he can get them, this guy turns out to be her goddamn brother. me and her were inseperable from then on out for a good solid year.we werent dating per se, but if you saw us youd never know.. we slept together, i mean we acted lik3 a couple i dont know why we never made it official. well that year we were together was sad also cause this amazing, pretty girl, was also now a full blown oxy junkie and im the type that wants to help people get sober and of drugs as much as i can even if im taking them but i never stopped her or tried. oh my god the rambling happened again and right after i ended the last paragraph where i was trying to make myself stop. ok quick, me and her are still best friends to this day, but were both still junkies, i have no idea why i told this story maybe because op said something about not dating in years but ok i have to pretty much force myself to stop typing or ill get into a new subject so ok bye

OMG YOU COULDN'T PUT THEM IN PARAGARAPHS? I CAN'T READ WHAT YOU WROTE, WTF?!
 
HI. i just got done sort of replying to your post but it ended up being a VEERRRY long manifesto of a first time user who most likely did to much to quick, and im still very high. ill tell you what i learned (please go check out my thread). i did notice that i was pretty warm. it was cold enough outside that you really needed a heavy jacket and id put it on before going outside but after 5-10 mins id get warm and take it off and feel fine in the cold without the jacket. you dont feel hot tho at all, not by touch or anything else you just notice youre warmer than usual im guessing due to the heart and blood stream working overtime. another thing, just like with ecstacy you NEED to be drinking water the whole time, or gatorade or something because meth will quickly dehydrate you and if you read my thread youll find out what happens when you dont know exactly what youre doing... it was amazing and fun for the first 6=7 hours but then it changed... read my thread. as far as taking a small dose no youll be fine, i started yesterday out with 10.00 worth.. 4 tiny rocks. i snorted two and smoked two, i neede to find out which way i would prefer doing it. i chose to smoke it but i did do maybe 3 lines also, very small ones tho like a half inch long. but that tiny bit i started out doing made me feel AMAZING. i was back over at his house within 20 minutes to buy more. i was supposed to get blues, roxies... but i got *snip NO PRICES* worth ( and about 9 hours later i had *snip NO PRICES* brought to me and i got another *snip NO PRICES* bag). but, BUT, you need to understand, and if you do it youll see for yourself.. i didnt go straight over there to buy more cause i was fiending, i did it cause i always wanted to try it and the 3 times i tried it before yesterday, i never felt anything. this time i did so i decided i would spend the day and night at that house, about 7 of us total doing it, and sporatically throughout the day people would stop by. fuck sorry im getting off track, damn tweaked out mind. ok please, please, please listen to me.. if you read my thread youl see me talk about what im about to say to you. they didnt do this for me and they should have cause i was a first timer (like how people on acid need someone sober with them the first time they do it). ok, so if youre going to try it just buy like 20.00 worth. that will keep you high for 2 days if you do it right. make sure youre with someone whos experienced with the drug and ask him to monitor you so you dont accidentally do to much in to short of a time period. thats how i got sick. they all knew it was my first time but no one ever said anything to me about the amount i was doing because i didnt know any better, i wasnt famillar with this drugs and how it works. i thought it would be like coke/crack. with those you pretty much have to do a hit every 20-45 mins cause the high is strong and hard but doesnt last lng. meth on the other hand will last hours on a good hit. i DIDNT KNOW THIS i thought i was ok because no one said anything to me. atleast you were smart enough to research it. god i wish i can turn back time to 10"30am yesterday and research meth after i did my first successful hit. i wouldnt have gone threw what i did. but dont get me wrong, it was amazing all day then sometime around 10pm i suddenly got an intense stomach ache and felt like i was about to puke my guts up every time i stood. i tried to make myself throw up thinking it would help but beause of the dry mouth and lack of food it was impossible. none of the people i was there with ever had this problem so i started asking how much they did their first time and every single one of them said either *snip* worth for the whole day/night or *snip* worth and here i was doing *snip* to my head in less than 12 hours. most of the people i didnt know but we all got along, 3 of them were close friends... one i had known since 2nd grade, the other 2 ive been buying from since 2006. i can excuse the people i didnt know for not saying anything but my friends should have especially since they KNEW it was my first time. also i noticed that if youre alone, not doing anything, or especially not talking to anyone you started to get this odd depressed feeling which can lead to the paranois. for a good hour or 2 i reall y thought everyone was avoiding me, and talkng about me but i made myself get up and go over to whereever people were and just start some random conversation and id be fine, no more paranoia. i hope i told you everything you really should, no.. need to do your first time so you can learn it 100% -- i hope im not leaving anything out... but honestly pretty much all of this stuff shouldnt, and most likely wont happen to you or be a problem as long as you heed my most sincere, not fucking around rule. DO NOT TAKE ALOT YOUR FIRST TIME ESPECIALLY, GOD DAMN ESPECIALL YI N LESS THAN 24 HOURS. if you take it easy, dont over do it and be responsible youll have an amazing time, the whole time. also, its a good idea to have some xanax, or oxys when you run out so you dont feel the full effect of coming down off the drug. i have no info about this becausw after what happened to me, they tried to help me as much as possible by doing exactly that.. gave me some xanie bars and a 30mg oxy. i didnt feel that horrible coming down feeling. but also, ive only experience a drugs hard come down with coke, and crack and im sure meth is different. because meth lasts so long im guessing you might not even feel very bad coming down when you run out (without havin xanies or blues). im pretty confident in saying this even tho ive never came down without having xanies cause as i said my first time ended badly, but im confident in saying you can probably come down off meth without xanax or oxys and i dont think it would be very bad because the drug lasts so long. with coke, you do a line and get an enormous, intense high.. probably my favorite high, but it only last a short period. a new user, lines can last up to an hour or more, but if youve done it a few times and you do a binge night, they slowly stop lasting as long and eventually you can do a nice sized line and feel a little high for like 15 mins. its because of this intense short acting high that i believe is why coming down off of cocaine is sooooo god damn miserable. YOU NEED XANAX OR OXYS OR SOMETHING when coming down off coke. well you dont need them, but goddamn youll be glad if you do. fuck me sorry, my tweaked out mind is doing what it did in the thread i posted im just rambling now so im going to stop. respond to this or PM me, let me knowwhen you do it and how it was.. and please, read my thread its important. i need peoples answers and opinions so i can evaluate my state of mind after doing so much effing meth. its very important so you, and anyone reading this post.. read my thread please. i beg of you





hey, i dont know meth users other than the people i met yesterday so i dont have anyone to ask but when you did meth, did your back get sore? a few of the people i was with said it was normak. i wasnt even moving that much. if i did move it was to go the bathroom, get a drink, or on ocassion id just get up and pace around the house for 5 mins or so looking at shit. other than that i was sitting 87% of the time and i noticed my back was sore. it didnt hurt, not like any kind of pain.. just... i dont know its hard to explain. i guess you can say it was tensed up? like how if you do alil work and are lifting things alot, your back will just feel a bit tense. i dont want to say sore because that i think implys there was pain involved, even if it was almost unnoticable pain cause there was none. just.. tense, kind of tight.


also i agree with the euphoria and talking alot. although it doesnt feel nearly as nice as coke or ecstacy, but if i felt it and it made me talk then it had to be good. i have clinical anxiety and its insanely hard to have a conversation with people, even the ones ive known for years. i can go days, even weeks without saying a single word, this social anxiety and fear is worse than it used to be. i lost my good friends over the crazy chick i maried so now the only times i really talk to anybody is if i have to, like if i have to call someone about a bill... or see a dr, or go to a grocery store. but even in those situations, i wont talk.. ill make them talk and ill answer with 1 or 2 word responses. my point is, besides the xanax i take that allows me to talk to people without fear, drugs like meth, coke, crack, ecstacy have been my favorite things to do because of the high confidense it gives you and the ability to talk. on meth tho, i noticed i wont think about what im about to say or ask someone it just happens almost instantly once i decide im going to talk. but the other drugs, i do alot of the time think of something to say, like what would be a good conversation starter. oh. my. god. im doing it again. im rambling.. im still tweaking heavily from my first meth use. whoever reads my posts and the thread i made when im still high might find it, uh... cant think of the word... so ill say fun. but, i think im also giving alot of you a good opportunity to see into the mind of someone who did meth for the first time and did waaaayyyy to much in a very short time. i wonder if any of you are psychologists, if so would you wirte a thread about the things ive been typing this morning. i really wonder if it is noticeable, or how noticeable it is that im on some sort of drug. if i hadnt said i was still on an all day first time use meth binge, would you think im knda nuts? i cannot self evaluate myself in my condition, but i will come back and read all i wrote when im sober and see how drastic the two styles are.



OMG YOU COULDN'T PUT THEM IN PARAGARAPHS? I CAN'T READ WHAT YOU WROTE, WTF?!

lol im so sorry i was in the middle of a 3 day meth binge and i had snorted a pretty big line before i got on here. i couldnt help it, ive seen other people mention it also -- when on meth and you start writing or typing youll drift off into other conversations thinking that they are connected. i was fuuuuuucked up when i wrote that and every other post i wrote yesterday morning (between 6-8am EST USA). i just woke up so im coherent now. anyway sorry, i honestly couldnt help it its like my fingers were posessed
 
^ Made me LOL. I loved my ranting, conversation hopping highs. Miss my cryss so much but it made me insane at one point and the withdrawal is some shit. The struggle was real but it's still my fav.
 
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