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Question about measuring 2C-E in drops
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sekio
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I strongly suggest you measure in millilitres becase 'drops' can be highly variable in size. With 2c-e a few milligrams can make a great difference. Get a 1 or 3ml oral syringe.
2C-E is fairly soluble in water, bur dependong on how big your 'drops' are I don't know if you can get 400mg in 100 'drops'. Solubility probably tops out at around 20mg/ml. Everyone I've seen suggests 2-5mg/ml.
And yeah, all you need to do is mix the 2c-e into the water and stir. Heating can help too.
2C-E is fairly soluble in water, bur dependong on how big your 'drops' are I don't know if you can get 400mg in 100 'drops'. Solubility probably tops out at around 20mg/ml. Everyone I've seen suggests 2-5mg/ml.
And yeah, all you need to do is mix the 2c-e into the water and stir. Heating can help too.
Well if drops vary in size then doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of using a vile in the first place?
im suggesting i count out 100 drops into the vial
unless you're suggesting that i don't use a vial at all to dose 2ce
it's good to know about the solubility thing
im suggesting i count out 100 drops into the vial
unless you're suggesting that i don't use a vial at all to dose 2ce
it's good to know about the solubility thing
sekio
Bluelight Crew
If you measure the drops from the vial (know how big they are, roughly), then its useful, but as a unit on their own 'drops' is a useless measurement.
I can't tell you if 400mg will dissolve in 100 'drops' without knowing how big the drops are. Given that a TYPICAL drop is around 100 microliters, I dont think youd get 400mg/10ml.
I can't tell you if 400mg will dissolve in 100 'drops' without knowing how big the drops are. Given that a TYPICAL drop is around 100 microliters, I dont think youd get 400mg/10ml.
I changed the title, please - everyone who reads this - name your thread in a clear way otherwise everyone has to see inside what it is about, of all the infinite possibilities. Good and mysterious from a marketing perspective, impractical and unwanted at boards - BL/PD also.
Anyway on with the actual topic: yes I agree with sekio. Depending on the solvent and surface tension drops vary in volume and they also vary for a single solvent. A while ago there was a thread posted about a suggestion how to go about making a preparation that allows you to dose a psychedelic by the drop.
If you know what you are doing, after unquestionable experience with basic chemistry, then for *some* compounds that have an acceptable therapeutic index (margin of safety) you could do this but still every drop should be a fraction of a dose and not a whole dose. So with 4 mg you got a part of it in the right direction. I am not sure what the statistical deviation is with aqueous or alcoholic drops of psychedelic solutions but really this is asking for problems. There is no true purpose either, people think it is cool because it resembles liquid acid (which has a large therapeutic index, almost without competition). But beyond that, it is just better to use volumetric measurement... that means you actually have to be able to accurately measure the volume of your liquid!
So the 'cool' argument is not enough from a HR perspective, I advise against it and beseech you to act responsibly.
Anyway on with the actual topic: yes I agree with sekio. Depending on the solvent and surface tension drops vary in volume and they also vary for a single solvent. A while ago there was a thread posted about a suggestion how to go about making a preparation that allows you to dose a psychedelic by the drop.
If you know what you are doing, after unquestionable experience with basic chemistry, then for *some* compounds that have an acceptable therapeutic index (margin of safety) you could do this but still every drop should be a fraction of a dose and not a whole dose. So with 4 mg you got a part of it in the right direction. I am not sure what the statistical deviation is with aqueous or alcoholic drops of psychedelic solutions but really this is asking for problems. There is no true purpose either, people think it is cool because it resembles liquid acid (which has a large therapeutic index, almost without competition). But beyond that, it is just better to use volumetric measurement... that means you actually have to be able to accurately measure the volume of your liquid!
So the 'cool' argument is not enough from a HR perspective, I advise against it and beseech you to act responsibly.
