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Stimulants Question about dull rigs.

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Friend ran into a dilemma while shooting, had only 1 rig for the whole night and alot of drugs, after a while he said the punctures hurt, left big marks, and couldnt even puncture the vein.. By chance is there anyway around this?

Basically what do you do when you have a dull rig? He's well aware of the safety hazards he was just fiending, is there nothing else to do but throw it out and wait?

Thanks.
 
Worst case scenario with a large gauge (say 27) you can resharpen the needle with a matchbook, this is not harm-reduction advice and great care must be taken in not leaving any iron parrticles/ shavings on the needle tip.

so basically no there is no real responisble way around this especially not with an insulin needle which practically bends in half after 2 uses and becomes a fish hook.
 
Please please please go to a needle exchange and get more if you can't afford to buy them!!! :(

I hate to hear people re-using rigs until they get dull.

If you are finding it hard to get rigs, read this over: How to get needles Mega Thread

Why it's especially important to use a new rig every time with methamphetamine:

Missing a few units of a shot can do serious corrosive damage to your veins/subcutaneous tissue.

it will blow up a shit ton if you miss more than a few units, to the point where you are scared shitless. If your product is pure it's likely to go down quickly.

You also need to get a new rig every time to prevent the introduction of bacteria into your blood stream - this can cause an abscess or worse (endocarditis).

Also, the duller the needle gets, the harder it will be to hit a vein, leading to damaging your veins more - which the methamphetamine can do on its own as is - especially if you don't have large veins to begin with!

Last but not least, if there are chemicals left over in your product, you definitely don't want to inject that into your subcutaneous flesh. It's very important you get it in your vein, which using a new rig every time helps enable you to do.

PLEASE reconsider what you are doing and choose to use a new rig every time.
 
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His first mistake was only showing up with 1 rig... he does realize that 1 rig is supposed to = 1 injection, right? I can't imagine how many times that thing has been used and what it looks like...

You or your friend ever see this?

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Yeah.. That look appealing? Like something you want to jab in your arm? Every time he sticks that mangled piece of shit into his vein, he is ripping it apart. You risk infection, bruising, scaring, and collapsing the vein.

Throw the thing away and switch ROA's.. That is the only advice to be given here, I'm afraid.
 
Thank you for the comments guys, now its the next day, my friend has red cuts all over both arms, how long will these take to heal, they look bigger then they should be, He did a really stupid thing, but you know the mindstate on meth..
 
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Sharpening is an option... but it only really works with larger gauged needles. If you have anything under a 28G it's not going to work well at all. Also, if you are going to do that... and you reaalllyy shouldn't.. be sure to CLEAN IT THOROUGHLY. You do not want microscopic pieces of metal getting into your veins.

Again, rigs are incredibly cheap and totally free in some places...

Don't reuse!
 
Is there any way I can link a picture of my friends arms, would that be against the rules and i not how would I do it, He really wants an opinion on this and a doctor isn't an option atm, my healthcard isn't valid and It costs more money then i can afford.. Thanks in advance.
( I know this isnt the place for medical advice but I just want an opinion from someone who may have experienced this)
 
mr.scagnattie said:
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Sharpening is an option... but it only really works with larger gauged needles. If you have anything under a 28G it's not going to work well at all. Also, if you are going to do that... and you reaalllyy shouldn't.. be sure to CLEAN IT THOROUGHLY. You do not want microscopic pieces of metal getting into your veins.

Again, rigs are incredibly cheap and totally free in some places...

Don't reuse!
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i'm going to have to disagree. sharpening isn't something we should really be promoting. it's too easy to order rigs online in quantity if there isn't a local exchange near you.

but, yeah, who brings i rig and a bunch of drugs?

break the tip off before your friend does anymore damage. maybe use it for shafting?
 
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Please remember my friend is not this much of an idiot, He spent 2 hours doing that damage with the same rig for litterly ONE SHOT, meth is a fucking monster.
 
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having to puncture your skin with a dull needle will promote bruising, that's normal. the picture isn't the best and just looks like superficial bruising.

are they lumps with pain, inflammation? can you describe them?
 
Theyre bright red almost scabs in a way, and theyre All over his arm, he tried every fucking vein over and over again on both arms, it looks haggard as fuck. The Elbow pit, yanno, that big vein he has on the inside of each arm is bright red and brown, the one on his left arm hurts when he moves his arm a certain way, like its squeezing it or something. Other than that just an uncomftorble sensation from them no real pain. Would a shower help him, He really cant sleep and sleep is the best way for wounds to heal, Any thing to recommend.

Theyre not like lumps when I run my hand over I dont feel a lump just my arm, and no pain its just red circles look kind of like scabs, exception for the elbow pit ones, im scared he might have ruined them they don't look good.
 
tentram said:
having to puncture your skin with a dull needle will promote bruising, that's normal. the picture isn't the best and just looks like superficial bruising.

are they lumps with pain, inflammation? can you describe them?
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Tilt your screen or your head up and down, youll see the red marks on the picture, those arent freckles those are all cuts. I dont know how many times he fucking stabbed himself with the needle.
 
^doesn't LOOK too bad, give it 24 hours is my advice....

The Old matchbook trick, lol!

shit, I havent' done that since rigs were illegal...desperate times call for desperate measures, but it sucks! Bad idea!

If you're gonna do it anyway, flush the shit out of that rig before you stick it in your arm after sharpening!
 
BlueHues said:
^doesn't LOOK too bad, give it 24 hours is my advice....

The Old matchbook trick, lol!

shit, I havent' done that since rigs were illegal...desperate times call for desperate measures, but it sucks! Bad idea!

If you're gonna do it anyway, flush the shit out of that rig before you stick it in your arm after sharpening!
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Thanks for all the help man, This is why I love bluelight.
 
keep a close eye on them, they could turn infectious. i see what you mean now, definitely looks like he was hacking at it pretty hard. raised puncture wounds by the looks. was he using an alcohol swab on each area before trying to inject? that's a good way to get an infection, if not.

i've never had much success with those deeper veins on the inside of my forearm, too deep for me to fuck around with. try sticking to the more superficial veins on the forearm/crook.
 
Also, take a shower and clean those injection sites...I'm not a doctor, but if there's no major swelling, pain or redness, he'll probably be okay....

But as Captain Heroin said, there's a whole host of dangers when it comes to IVing drugs!

If you're gonna continue to do it, be prepared...."clean" is the big word here!

I'm off IV drugs, thank God and I've never had an abcess in 16 years. Of course, I have good veins and I know how to use them!

Some people just have veins that suck! Be careful, clean and safe!

Can you buy clean syringes where you are?
 
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