Question about CWE.

[ThrashMetal]

So I like to just do a CWE per dose I'd like to take, I don't want to make huge batch of the liquid. So I use just 2, 10-500s into a batch, When i would pop them I'd take 1 and 1/2 pills so i use 2 for the CWE (accounting for reduction of opite in process).

So my question is If I do the process correctly, and filter it only one time therefore reducing >90% of the APAP, Will the amount of APAP missed and ingested be harmful if taken like this 3-4 times daily?

Iv'e been hooked on hydros for about three years and i really need to cut the APAP out of my life cause as it is i've been taking 2000+ mg of APAP everyday for the entirety of this addiction, Thanks for your help fellas.


Your friend,

Nick

 

[Hear Me Roar]

So let me just clarify.

You want to do a CWE of 2, 10-500(mg) Hydrocodone tablets, for 1 dose.
You normally take 1 1/2 tablets, but because of loss of active ingredient in the process you're going to use two.

You want to do this, 3-4 times a day and your question is, will the amount over the 3-4 doses of APAP, be harmful.

Considering 1,000mg for 1 single dose and 4,000mg in 4 doses staggered throughout the day is fine for a healthy adult. The amount of APAP in those 3-4 single doses, should be more than fine.

20/1,000mg per dose > 90% APAP removed = 100mg APAP.
x 4
ROUGHLY 400mg APAP. Which is more than fine. Even if you only managed to remove 75% of the APAP, you would still be relatively safe.

 

[ThrashMetal]

Ok so my body would be ok to take "roughly 400" for a prolnged time? like say years. Would that small of a amount take 36-48 hours to get of your system like regular doses?

 

[dais]

you really needn't be performing a cwe on such small amounts of apap, you're only losing out with losing that small bit of opioid.

taking them as is, the synergism between the apap and hydro will prove to be a better pain reliever over all. you really are over worrying yourself about doing damage to your liver taking those doses. the liver is rather resilient and will repair itself rather efficiently if it does have the ocassional bashing from apap- there are studies backing this up.

you don't need to start cwe'ing until you're going over 4000mg of apap a dose.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

you really needn't be performing a cwe on such small amounts of apap, you're only losing out with losing that small bit of opioid.

taking them as is, the synergism between the apap and hydro will prove to be a better pain reliever over all. you really are over worrying yourself about doing damage to your liver taking those doses. the liver is rather resilient and will repair itself rather efficiently if it does have the ocassional bashing from apap- there are studies backing this up.

you don't need to start cwe'ing until you're going over 4000mg of apap a dose.

Actually I believe a CWE is needed if a person is going to be taking over 3000mg-4000mg (depending on the source) of APAP within 24 hours, not per dose. And even though the OP is only taking around 2000mg+ per day, taking 2000mg+ per day every single day is not good for you either. I would personally definitely do a CWE if I was taking that much APAP.

However, doing a CWE on just 2 pills at a time doesn't work very well, plus it is a pain in the ass. It is a much better idea to make large batches at a time.

It's not fantastic to be taking any amount of APAP every single day for any long period of time, but taking around 10% of what you take now (assuming a successful CWE) is not likely to do the average healthy person any serious damage and would definitely be a vast improvement over what you do now.

EDIT: For more info, here's a page explaining the risks of taking normal doses of APAP long-term: http://www.medicinenet.com/tylenol_liver_damage/article.htm

 

[dais]

Actually I believe a CWE is needed if a person is going to be taking over 3000mg-4000mg (depending on the source) of APAP within 24 hours, not per dose.

thanks for correcting that little mishap again, man. i should wait until i've finished breakfast and coffee before posting

i definitely agree with the rest of your points as well.

 

[ThrashMetal]

Will I be losing more doing just 2 pills? does the end product have less "good stuff" than if i was to make in bigger scale?

 

[dais]

it really depends on your tek and how you perform it. the losses, if the extraction is performed correctly, are really going to be negligible in the end. once you start going high scale extractions you simply divide them up into smaller extractions.

what's your tek?

 

[ThrashMetal]

What do you mean whats my "tek", if you mean my process, it is as follows,,,,




I start with crushing into a powder and then i stir the 2 pills worth of powder into about 1 oz of warm water, i dissolve, i get SUPER COLD IN FREEZER, and then i filter thru a coffe filter about 2 times. an drink.