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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

question about CWE

That would depend on how good your CWE method was but given you can get away with at least 3g of APAP a day its not going to be enough to do you any harm
 
I ponder this as well. After examining the dried remnants of cwe's, I imagine 5-10%. It would be worthwhile to use a mg scale to find out for sure, but I am not going to buy one just for that. Cold water extractions are very efficient, however, and always worth the effort.
 
Not sure how an mg scale would help you tell how much APAP was in the solution ?? maybe I'm missing something there, I'm no chemist.

If you follow that method I cant see how you could be getting into dangerous amounts of APAP in the solution, remember these pills were supposed to be ingested anyway juts not in the quantity you are using in the CWE.

If you follow that process and aren't sitting there all day doing one CWE after the other your not going to get above 3g of APAP in your system and thats considered a safe dose for normal pain relief some would even say 4g.
 
^If you weighed the thoroughly dried remnants of a CWE, you would know how much apap got through the filtration process.
 
jackie jones said:
^If you weighed the thoroughly dried remnants of a CWE, you would know how much apap got through the filtration process.
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Yes and no. You'd need to do a difference measurement of sorts. a 10/500 has 10mg opiate, 500mg APAP in the pill - but it's going to weigh more than 510mg. Find out the % mass of APAP in original pill. The measurement of final APAP "goop" left multiplied by the % (in decimal format) will give amount of APAP removed.

This also assumes the binders are all pulled out - which in some cases they're not. For more accuracy and precision, you'd need to find the other inactive ingredients, molar masses of each compound, and % composition in each pill. Then apply this to the left-overs as well.
 
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This is what I was getting at, given the level of risk if the CWE is done properly the amount of APAP really should not be an issue so it would be a big waste of time.

If you doing enough CWEs in a day to worry, you need help, you can just eyball the shear amount of white gunk left in the filter to know you've got rid of the vast majority of that APAP which is safe enough as long a you don't do more than 3g in 24Hrs anyway. Although I wouldn't advice doing 3g everyday of the week, I don't do the stuff at all these days, surely this is more of an emergency thing when you really can't get the real deal
 
The best way to figure out how much APAP you filtered would be to do a titration on your filtered solution. APAP should make the solution acidic. That would make for a fairly easy titration I would think. Otherwise, I suppose you could weigh the pills first, then weight the material you filter out. Simple subtraction would give you the MAXIMUM amount of APAP remaining in your filtered solution.
 
Really, given APAP's very low solubility in cold water, if you use minimal water (and ensure it is cold), and a proper filter, there should be negligible amounts left..

Still something to bear in mind if CWEing loads of 8/500 pills (for example) regularly. Technique is everything. Cold water, good filter, patience, never squeeze!
 
effie said:
Really, given APAP's very low solubility in cold water, if you use minimal water (and ensure it is cold), and a proper filter, there should be negligible amounts left..

Still something to bear in mind if CWEing loads of 8/500 pills (for example) regularly. Technique is everything. Cold water, good filter, patience, never squeeze!
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As we've had fun doing in the past, do some research into different compounds' solubility at STP and do some math to figure out anticipated results in final solution.
 
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