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Question about a "ghetto rig" Ayahuasca

Ismene said:
That's what Rick Strassman claims - DMT is related to dreams but a DMT trip is nothing like dreaming.
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Kind of a half truth.. Rick Strassman theorized that the pinealgland is responsible for synthezising and releasing Melatonine which has been confirmed to be released during sleep(REM state of sleep). The theory also includes that the pineal gland produces DMT and that it can be released upon some sort of stress or death/birth.

But there are no hard evidence besides trace amounts of DMT in human tissue(no real evidence), that the pineal gland are responsible for DMT synthesis and release - One theory why it isn't yet proved is because of DMT's rapidly metabolism due to MAOi.

To my knowledge Rick Strassman hasn't "claimed" anything besides facts, allthough his theories can seem a little fact-like.

My own personal belief is that DMT both is a trace amine neurotransmitter, but is also involved in religion/spiritualy/evolution of thinking/death&birth. Actually I think it's one of the most valuable things in our universe, could be somewhat half of LIFE.
 
His theories do tend to be bandied about as fact tho - there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever that DMT has anything to do with dreams or that it's released at death.

As someone who'se taken enough DMT to stun a charging rhino I can confirm that DMT is nothing like dreaming. And as for the death thing - I've read an awful lot of near-death experience reports and never read one that reminded me of a DMT trip.

But I agree it's one of the most valuable things in the universe!
 
welp 1.5 hours ago I downed 2.2 grams of mimosa hostilis powder after boiling it in some water and vinegar for a bit and then neutralizing the solution with baking soda. Does anyone know if the baking soda and/or vinegar will destroy any DMT or otherwise somehow lower the quality of oral DMT?

Now, I don't yet have the rue, so the purpose of this was to see how nauseating it is. I definitely had to drink a sip of pepto bismol and eat a little ginger root after each gulp of the mimosa solution, but it did not give me any noticeable nausea. When I do get the rue, I'll do the same thing with said rue, and replace 2.2 grams with 5 grams of mimosa. All of this taken slowwwllllyyyy :D
 
Either vinegar or baking soda shouldn't destroy the dmt, as far as I'm concerned. I would have chosen lemon or citric acid though - due to taste.

//blazR
 
blazR said:
Either vinegar or baking soda shouldn't destroy the dmt, as far as I'm concerned. I would have chosen lemon or citric acid though - due to taste.

//blazR
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yeah that's another question; does one have to heat up the mimosa/water solution with an acid, or can it just be mimosa/water heated up with some of the remaining solids removed by filter?
 
I don't think they use any kind of acids in the rainforrest, so i guess it is possible. The acid and heat is to speed up and maximize the process.

//blazR
 
MagicalOrangutan said:
ok. My only question remaining is about how to intake the syrian rue.
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I think you should boil the syrian rue with some water and lime- or lemonjuice as well. Preload the MAOi, wait for 15-20 maybe 30 minutes and take the DMT liquid.
 
welp folks, as much as I hate to admit it, I failed..this time. Threw everything up.

I simply rushed and did what I said I would...and that is drink all the mimosa powder. Not a smart idea. The syrian rue didn't bother me even after eating 3 grams of it straight (as in, crushing the dry seeds in my mouth), but the 7 grams of mimosa did.

If you only have mimosa powder, will it suffice to cook the powder in a crockpot with vinegar for 2 hours (filling it back up occasionally with water and some vinegar), put that in a glass jar/drinking glass, let it settle, then discard the shit at the bottom and only drink the top part? Or will that waste some DMT?
 
Well, it isn't such a surprise you puked ;)

I think you will lose some DMT, but nothing noticeable if you cook the mimosa with water and vinegar and let the sludge settle.

Did you felt any effects other than nausea?


//blazR
 
blazR said:
Well, it isn't such a surprise you puked ;)

I think you will lose some DMT, but nothing noticeable if you cook the mimosa with water and vinegar and let the sludge settle.

Did you felt any effects other than nausea?


//blazR
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I ate 2.7 g of syrian rue, then 50 minutes later drank 7 grams of mimosa..all of it, sludge and all. Then I ate 1.5 g syrian rue afterwards and drank some more mimosa, but this time drank baking soda/water, despite having the vinegary-acidic mimosa conconction in my stomach, stupidly, and threw up again. Then later I was able to keep a few gulps of mimosa/vinegar concoction down, and felt a little different, but it might have been entirely due to the rue.
 
Maybe try upping your mimosa dose to 10-12g. and then do a filtration to get the sludge away.

But nausea/vomitting is allmost impossible to avoid when drinking ayahuasca.. The one time I drank ayahuasca I also vomitted, but it was at the end of the trip though.

MagicalOrangutan said:
but this time drank baking soda/water
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Why did you do that?


//blazR
 
blazR said:
Maybe try upping your mimosa dose to 10-12g. and then do a filtration to get the sludge away.

But nausea/vomitting is allmost impossible to avoid when drinking ayahuasca.. The one time I drank ayahuasca I also vomitted, but it was at the end of the trip though.
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If would've been able to keep any of it down it probably would've affected me, but really, I'm done with this anyways; I'm just gonna extract DMT whenever I get back to the location where my lye is stored and get ahold of some naptha.

Why did you do that?


//blazR
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I wasn't thinking clearly probably due to the rue anyways, but I think it was to neutralize the acidity from the vinegar to help not upset my stomach. Fail!!
 
MagicalOrangutan said:
I'm just gonna extract DMT whenever I get back to the location where my lye is stored and get ahold of some naptha
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Hehe, very wise decision.. :)
Keep in mind that a "separatory funnel" is recommended. I recommend it!
It can of course be done without.. But A LOT easier with one..
 
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