Quantum Mechanics, Power of thought, Reality- Truly amazing

[TheGreeenGlob]

hello all! I stumbled across this while researching how to use the full potential of the mind. This video was absolutely amazing. If this is true it is a life changing video. I have been practicing influencing my reality as a result of watching this movie, and it is working! Hard to believe but it is. Check out these videos, they are worth ever second you spend watching them.

What the @#$% do we know?: almost 2 hours

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5337107563511500029
&q=QUANTUM+MECHANICS&hl=en

Double Slit Experiment: 5 minutes

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4237751840526284618&q=QUANTUM+MECHANICS&hl=en

 

[elemenohpee]

Be careful, there's a lot of controversy surrounding wtbdwk. IMO, a lot of it is complete bs.

 

[PGTips]

What the Bleep Do We Know is the biggest, fattest sack of absolute shit I've come across in a long time. It's like a retard, a hippy and a bunch of money grabbing dickheads got together, read half a magazine clipping on quantum mechanics while high and made a film.

The experiments in the film are mostly BS. Ramtha or whatever it is is just a nutty old woman who scams people out of money.

If you want to learn something about physics I recommend programs not made by wackjobs. Things like the Discovery Channel or PBS are much better.

Speaking as someone who actually does quantum mechanics it really pisses me off that some people try to pass that bullshit as science.

 

[sciencedj]

If you really want to know how the universe and reality theoretically works, I recommend the book "The Elegant Universe" by Brian Greene. For those who do not like to read...it has been made into a series by NOVA (PBS).

 

[Edvard Munch]

What the Bleep Do We Know is the biggest, fattest sack of absolute shit I've come across in a long time. It's like a retard, a hippy and a bunch of money grabbing dickheads got together, read half a magazine clipping on quantum mechanics while high and made a film.

The experiments in the film are mostly BS. Ramtha or whatever it is is just a nutty old woman who scams people out of money.

If you want to learn something about physics I recommend programs not made by wackjobs. Things like the Discovery Channel or PBS are much better.

Speaking as someone who actually does quantum mechanics it really pisses me off that some people try to pass that bullshit as science.

That's a usual reply to the film I've noted; the overtly intellectually defensive reply. What scientific specifics pissed you off in particular?

 

[alasdairm]

related reading: Film: What the BLEEP do we know ? (merged)

alasdair

 

[Medatripper Tates]

What the Bleep Do We Know is the biggest, fattest sack of absolute shit I've come across in a long time. It's like a retard, a hippy and a bunch of money grabbing dickheads got together, read half a magazine clipping on quantum mechanics while high and made a film.

The experiments in the film are mostly BS. Ramtha or whatever it is is just a nutty old woman who scams people out of money.

If you want to learn something about physics I recommend programs not made by wackjobs. Things like the Discovery Channel or PBS are much better.

Speaking as someone who actually does quantum mechanics it really pisses me off that some people try to pass that bullshit as science.

is that second video BS?

if so, could you explain why?

 

[TheGreeenGlob]

Yes please tell us the scientific proof why the theories in that movie are bs

 

[knight_marshall]

i liked the movie... made me feel both smart and stupid, and so i started thinking...

anyway, in regards to the 'misquoted scientists'... they did say what they said, granted they might disagree with the overall opinion put forth by the movie, but they still said it. much like nieche has been blamed for hitler, these scientists blame themselves for the opinion put forth with which they disagree.

ok, to keep put it simply, the scientists quoted in this movie have had their own personal views and opinions of science shown in an order that leads to the movie makers personal views/opinions. the movie maker has observed others opinions, measured their integrity and accuracy, and produce a conclusion. feel free to observe the movie makers and others opinions on this subject and go make your own movie about it... but please pay the same courtesy given to you, and don't badmouth something you don't understand. it's funny how when discussing people from our own forum we call that trolling...

i always have to disclaim religious affiliations...

 

[L2R]

I have been practicing influencing my reality as a result of watching this movie, and it is working! Hard to believe but it is.

really? how so?

is that second video BS?

if so, could you explain why?

I'd also like to hear an answer to this. The version of the film i saw did not include that bit.

 

[captainballs]

The second video isn't bs until he blames it all on 'observation' without really going into what this means. I used to read about this stuff a lot (and I still love it), but blaming the interference phenomenon on someone watching hardly describes what 'observation' means on such a small scale. Maybe someone smarter can say this better.

 

[PGTips]

I've got to head off in a minute so this reply is somewhat short, I'll type something longer later. In the meantime if you want a long breakdown of all the crap in the film, search on Google.

Things like the "the indians couldn't see the ships". The ships arrived at night for a start. Secondly, those indians had no writing and their language is now lost since most died off, so there's no record of the arrival of Europeans. Also, quantum mechanics says NOTHING about that kind of stuff. The film is claiming you can't see things you don't know about. That's bullshit, how many of you have seen something on TV you've never seen before? Was the TV screen blank the first time they showed you a picture of the Pyramids or the Grand Canyon? No, of course not!

The whole thing about the ice cystals was staged. The guy doing the experiments deliberately looked for crystals which by chance (considering the millions of them) formed nice shapes for nice words and bad shapes for bad words. That's like going into jail, only interviewing black men, ignoring white people and then claiming all occupants of jails are black. It's called bias!

Yes, quantum mechanics is about probability but it doesn't say anything about science saying you can alter your reality by thinking about it. The probabilitistic nature of reality is totally lost when you are on a macroscale (ie normal day to day life). Probabilities then follow the law of large numbers where things with high probability happen more often, things behave normally.

Only one of the people in the film is actually a physicist and his interview was reedited to make him look like he was saying the same stuff as all the other loons in the video, but he's publicly stated that his views were totally opposite to how he comes across. All the other main people in the video are members of the Ramtha school of enlightenment or whatever it is. A cult.

They are using the very vaguest of links between quantum mechanics and the kind of hippy notions which sucker stoners into saying "Wow, that's deep man" to get people into their 'school' and suck money out of them.

I'm all for teaching the man on the street a bit of physics, people don't know enough when they leave school, but done properly, not having it tagged onto an infomercial for some psycho 60 year old woman who puts on a fake posh English accent and pretends to be channelling some 50,000 year old Atlantian.

Do you honestlyu buy that bullshit from that kind of person??

I've not looked at the second video but if it's an actual experiment of the double slit experiment, then yes, it's probably fine.

 

[AcidRain]

We learnt about interference phenomenon in high school physics. its 100% logical science. nothing to do with hippyology

 

[acausal]

i didn't even watch the movie and i'm sorry to sound like a complete loon to some (but not really ... ) ... this stuff is real- if it's what i'm thinking about.

it is very very real. belief is a powerful thing.

 

[acausal]

i think the moderators need to be a little bit more open minded considering this forum is "philosophy and spirituality".... last time I checked it's kind of hard to find concrete empirical data in that area... it should be enough of a hint that modern science is just now grazing the surface of age old concepts.... that modern science just in the past however many years has learned of the existence of another object in the Sirius system, labeled Sirius B... when the dogons have known about it all along... and claimed that the "gods" told them all about the system.

Another very interesting little thing... that gives me a little bit of faith...

look into Great Pyramid Geometry... just google it, and you should come up with a wealth of information..

The Universe is simply ordered beyond recognition.... most forms of recognition, anyways. The best form is recognizing yourself for what you truly are.. that's the key to recognizing the universe for what it really is... and each "is" is just an image within the image.... so it would make sense that each image within the image contains the whole image, aye?

But what the fuck do I know? I haven't read nearly as many books as you.

aye.

 

[PGTips]

i think the moderators need to be a little bit more open minded considering this forum is "philosophy and spirituality"....

My moderator title doesn't stop me having opinions, particularly in areas where I study.

last time I checked it's kind of hard to find concrete empirical data in that area.

There's tons and tons and tons of concrete empirical data on quantum theory.

it should be enough of a hint that modern science is just now grazing the surface of age old concepts

In almost all, if not all, those cases it's people stretching old myths too far or it's a lack of understanding on their part.

that modern science just in the past however many years has learned of the existence of another object in the Sirius system, labeled Sirius B... when the dogons have known about it all along... and claimed that the "gods" told them all about the system.

There's plenty of possibile explainations for that, several of them mentioned on the Wiki page for the Dogons.

look into Great Pyramid Geometry... just google it, and you should come up with a wealth of information..

There's plenty of very simple reasons for the intricate geometric relationships in the pyramid, all of them well within the grasp of the Egyptians.

Suffice to say, as someone who actually does know quantum mechanics on a level slightly higher than the guy on the street or the sham artists in that film, almost all they say about it is bollocks. They take the notion of the double slit experiment and just run with it to further their own propoganda for their cult.

 

[Medatripper Tates]

I've got to head off in a minute so this reply is somewhat short, I'll type something longer later. In the meantime if you want a long breakdown of all the crap in the film, search on Google.

Things like the "the indians couldn't see the ships". The ships arrived at night for a start. Secondly, those indians had no writing and their language is now lost since most died off, so there's no record of the arrival of Europeans. Also, quantum mechanics says NOTHING about that kind of stuff. The film is claiming you can't see things you don't know about. That's bullshit, how many of you have seen something on TV you've never seen before? Was the TV screen blank the first time they showed you a picture of the Pyramids or the Grand Canyon? No, of course not!

The whole thing about the ice cystals was staged. The guy doing the experiments deliberately looked for crystals which by chance (considering the millions of them) formed nice shapes for nice words and bad shapes for bad words. That's like going into jail, only interviewing black men, ignoring white people and then claiming all occupants of jails are black. It's called bias!

Yes, quantum mechanics is about probability but it doesn't say anything about science saying you can alter your reality by thinking about it. The probabilitistic nature of reality is totally lost when you are on a macroscale (ie normal day to day life). Probabilities then follow the law of large numbers where things with high probability happen more often, things behave normally.

Only one of the people in the film is actually a physicist and his interview was reedited to make him look like he was saying the same stuff as all the other loons in the video, but he's publicly stated that his views were totally opposite to how he comes across. All the other main people in the video are members of the Ramtha school of enlightenment or whatever it is. A cult.

They are using the very vaguest of links between quantum mechanics and the kind of hippy notions which sucker stoners into saying "Wow, that's deep man" to get people into their 'school' and suck money out of them.

I'm all for teaching the man on the street a bit of physics, people don't know enough when they leave school, but done properly, not having it tagged onto an infomercial for some psycho 60 year old woman who puts on a fake posh English accent and pretends to be channelling some 50,000 year old Atlantian.

Do you honestlyu buy that bullshit from that kind of person??

I've not looked at the second video but if it's an actual experiment of the double slit experiment, then yes, it's probably fine.

alpha, if this was directed towards me i havent seen the video (and dont plan to), just the second... just found it pretty interesting!

 

[PGTips]

Not, it was more a general rant.

 

[complexPHILOSOPHY]

i think the moderators need to be a little bit more open minded considering this forum is "philosophy and spirituality"....

Why do you assume that our moderator titles should somehow preclude us from stating our perspectives and observations about a subject or concept? The forum title is named, "Philosophy and Spirituality" but that doesn't mean empirical sciences and abstract logic systems such as mathematics can't be discussed.

The moderators of "P&A" (that sounds weird) are pretty open minded, we tend to let the forum moderate itself.

Open minded doesn't equate to 'accepting things without reason or having a propensity to accept new concepts'. It means that one analyzes all of the available options and then makes a choice based on the analysis.

 

[TheGreeenGlob]

Things like the "the indians couldn't see the ships". The ships arrived at night for a start. Secondly, those indians had no writing and their language is now lost since most died off, so there's no record of the arrival of Europeans. Also, quantum mechanics says NOTHING about that kind of stuff. The film is claiming you can't see things you don't know about. That's bullshit, how many of you have seen something on TV you've never seen before? Was the TV screen blank the first time they showed you a picture of the Pyramids or the Grand Canyon? No, of course not!

I am not saying that I 100% believe in all the ideas expressed by the video. Or that the Native American part is at all true. But one thing I will say is that your analogy does not make sense. It is a very different thing to see the grand canyons for the first time on tv, than the Native Americans seeing ships for the first time. Prior to seeing the grand canyon on tv you would had knowledge that rocks existed, that large rock formations existed, you would have also know valleys existed. Therefore your brain would have had enough information from past experience to put together a mental image of the grand canyon.

The movie(I’m not saying this is true or I that agree) argues that these Native Americans had no knowledge that ANY type of ship existed. And not enough information from past experience to put together a mental image of the ship. This concept could be possible

Also we(human beings) take in about 400 billion bits of information every second, but our brain only processes 2000 of them. That means that our brains do not process 99% of what our eyes "see". Although the eyes “see”, the brain it what process the image and allowed the image to be formed. The brain is taking in so much info at once can only process so little. This means the brain would have to choose what to process instantly and it would choose only things it was familiar with, and what it's been taught and conditioned to process. People consider "reality" to be so concrete and unchanging. But the simple fact that we don't process 99% of the "reality" that we take in, means that "reality" only exists in our brains. Even if there is/was a concrete "reality" we would never be able to understand it since we are missing almost all of the information about it. It's our brains version of "reality" that people believe to be so real, so concrete and not at all effected by anything we think.

Plus I brought the topic up more to focus on the unexplainable awsome power of thought. The power of thought has a strong impact on reality I think and I was wondering how many others shared this view

If you watch the video you would also see they go into a lot of human biology that is accurate.

Just because some of the information show in this video is untrue doesn’t mean you should immediately think everything is untrue. That is a logical fallacy if you ask me.