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Q: Was my weed laced? (A: No, you just got really stoned).

Drako said:
Are there cases of people being put on ativan and their heart rate going that high? I personally don't know anyone that has gone to the hospital so I was skeptical about chalking it up to my low tolerance. Or it being potent weed since I usually pick up my weed from clinics.
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Ativan is not used to treat tachycardia. You were probably placed on a beta blocker either instead or in concert.
 
Just want to add, I can confirm that it wasn't laced. I have had reactions like that to weed many times in the past. In fact I know of many people (myself included) who have had to stop smoking because of those kinds of reactions. It was never a result of laced weed for me, just panic attacks too high a dose or a bad reaction whatever you wanna call it.

The ironic part about people always thinking their weed was laced when they have a reaction like that, is that most drugs that you could even lace weed with would not produce a reaction like that. I mean, the 200 bmp heart rate is faster than you would normally get from amphetamines and way faster than you would get from PCP (a common suspect when it comes to laced weed). THC on the other hand, combined with panic WILL put your heart rate up that high.

I also doubt you would have died had you not gone to the hospital, not if you have a healthy heart. I never went to the hospital, I used to just accept death and I survived every time. I measured my heart at 150 bmp one time but other times it went faster and I was too scared to measure it.

I won't smoke weed any more because of the panic attacks it gave me and racing heart. I can handle LSD, mushrooms, DMT, amphetamines, ketamine but I cannot handle marijuana.
 
I just want to add I've had similar reactions myself, and is among a long list of reasons I haven't smoked in 4 years.

I will say this: Everyone seems to think weed can't hurt you, but an old friend's aunt died after smoking a blunt. She had an acute myocardial infarction (heart attack) and the doctors at the hospital attributed it to the THC that had bound to her heart.

I've also heard that THC drastically increases the chances of you having a heart attack. Whether or not that's true or just scare tactics, that's what I've heard. And I know someone, as I mentioned above, who had a heart attack after smoking.

Just my 2 cents.
 
It's a scary revelation; alas, the medicine, the most benign, truly god-given wonder-drug that some consider to be no drug at all is, in fact, a mind-altering substance, a drug, and one that can sometimes result in an altogether not-so-great experience.

You smoked too much, and you had a bad experience. I remember feeling the same way, my heart racing, objects on the horizon swinging back in forth like on a boat, thinking that I would die. It was terrible, a terrible experience, and that was the day I realized cannabis wasn't without its own shortcomings.

I wasn't able to smoke ever again after that and enjoy the high, and I've tried smoking after that bad experience on many different occasions. It sucks, and I wish that I could smoke weed and have a good time like everyone else, but I just can't do it.

It's funny that you should say, "I can handle LSD, mushrooms, DMT, amphetamines, ketamine but I cannot handle marijuana." You'll be made fun of for it, but you're not alone, my man.
 
^Yes, agreed. I used to enjoy pot but now anxiety has gotten the best of me and smoking pot does nothing but exacerbate my anxiety. I can eat half a strip of acid and handle myself better than taking a few hits from a bowl of dank bud. Its so hard to explain this to people and I don't get it myself but its just the way it is. My biggest fear in life is if I were to smoke weed while on acid or mushrooms especially...

While I strongly advocate the legalization of pot and know that it is a great harmless drug for most people, there are a select few that react negatively to it. It is known for its relaxing effects, although there are certain people who have the complete opposite reaction.

So yeah man, it wasn't laced just be careful when you smoke, try not to get too stoned.
 
Ive lost count of the amount of times ive smoked with someone and theyve told me about some laced weed they got. I think one time I even tried to explain that there is no way that any dealer would spend money lacing weed with another drug that their customer wasnt interested in.

I dont think I convinced him though.
 
I think it's only when you've grown it yourself and have one of these out of the world experiences that would normally convince your average person their weed must've been laced that you find it easier to understand how so many people can make this mistake.

Sometimes cannabis can be extremely psychedelic. Far from the view people often have that it's a 'soft' drug and therefore the effect on the mind mild. This is why it's just so so different from alcohol and your average intoxicant in general. This is also why it must be respected, because it can give you a nasty experience you wouldn't want to repeat.

I'll hold my hand up and confess that as a teenager I ended up in A&E after eating brownies and having an awful experience. That time I actually literally ended up losing control of my body, and as much as it probably looked funny to onlookers, I ended up dancing in an inappropriate situation (a crowded hospital) and being so embarrassed and scared because of the lack of control and the fear that the hospital staff weren't taking the situation seriously because of my behaviour. At one point I literally thought I was going to die, so it was not fun at all.
 
lol this thread makes me laugh. i dont think i could find weed laced even if i wanted to. maybe cuz i dont hang around sketchy enough people, but then again people i hang with are pretty sketchy. it would be such a waste of drugs like others have pointed out before because it would be like giving away free drugs.

now, i've heard of people dipping their weed in coca-cola (the soft drink) because after it is dried it is more sticky and weighs more giving the impression that the weed is better than it actually is.
 
^ what a terrible idea. I can't imagine that going well. They have special sugar solutions made for that purpose which would be better than coke, but really anyone who does this sort of thing is scum IMO. Really, they're the lowest of the low. It's really just not necessary but I guess this is the result of prohibition.

If I were selling (I wouldn't) I'd rather take a loss than sell people crap. I don't understand how they have no qualms about being such pricks).
 
exactly, im not sure how many people it has fooled, im not sure if is entirely true. but that is a really scum move. it is weed anyways, it's not like cocaine where expense out-weighs any negatives from cutting the product. i prefer to just share the love when it comes to weed :D, as do most of the people i associate myself with
 
Hell yea I remember when I used to get stoopned off a 8 th of a gram of erg. Now it's a dime to get that high. Cherish it cause one day you'll be payin an arm and leg. I'm bout to smoke a .5 g j I'll tell ya how high i get... Which won't be very
 
Artificial Emotion said:
^ what a terrible idea. I can't imagine that going well. They have special sugar solutions made for that purpose which would be better than coke, but really anyone who does this sort of thing is scum IMO. Really, they're the lowest of the low. It's really just not necessary but I guess this is the result of prohibition.

If I were selling (I wouldn't) I'd rather take a loss than sell people crap. I don't understand how they have no qualms about being such pricks).
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AE, I think most people wanna make some extra cash or at least smoke for free when they're selling, so unfortunately those people do exist. I also stay away from anyone who would do this/is known for doing this, but it's similar to getting really damp bud (you lose some when it dries out) but it's still pretty gross to think about. Unfortunately not everyone who smokes/handles weed is into people getting good bud --- if that was the case people wouldn't mess with shitty low grade schwag right?
 
i've had some very intense stones...smoked a lot of weed and i do realize that it's powerful stuff and when you overdo it it'll definitely knock you on your ass. for me, there IS such a thing as "too stoned"!!

BUT, there is one time that, looking back on it, i really do think i got weed that was laced with something. it was back in high school when i first started smoking, probably my 4th or 5th time ever. i remember toking out of a coke can (yep, classy) with a guy in my friend's driveway, and after that it was the strangest experience i've ever had with weed. it was like i would black out momentarily and sporadically... walking back inside my friend's house, i would all of a sudden come to and be laying on the ground. this happened several times as i was trying to get back inside. i wouldn't remember falling down, and the "blackouts" only lasted for a few seconds, but it was the strangest feeling/experience. once i got inside i had to just sit down, and i had flashes of memories/dreams/moments in my past that i hadn't seen or thought of in years.

i don't think this has anything to do with the fact that i smoked out of a coke can (yes, i know it's possible to inhale dangerous fumes from the aluminum but i used that smoking method many times back in the day when i wasn't old enough to buy my own pipe) but i've never experienced anything remotely like it, so i'm convinced it was dirty with something else...just have no fucking clue what it could have been.
 
purple_cloud said:
AE, I think most people wanna make some extra cash or at least smoke for free when they're selling, so unfortunately those people do exist. I also stay away from anyone who would do this/is known for doing this, but it's similar to getting really damp bud (you lose some when it dries out) but it's still pretty gross to think about. Unfortunately not everyone who smokes/handles weed is into people getting good bud --- if that was the case people wouldn't mess with shitty low grade schwag right?
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Oh yes I agree, I'm under no illusions and am certainly not naive about what goes on but I just don't think it's necessary, regardless of the fact that it's become common or even the norm. The profit margins are so large due to the illegality that they just don't need to do that (well over here at least). They could probably sell it for a quarter of what they charge and still make a profit so I just think they're being greedy at the end of the day as they want to have their cake and eat it too. Because of this I think there's no excuse for this deceptive behavior.

As for the low grade shwag, I would have thought that the only reason they buy this is to save money because its cheaper. I'm sure if they had more money or it were cheaper they wouldn't be resorting to it. I honestly think people have been putting up with crap for far to long and that it's almost become normalised. This is why prohibition needs to stop. You wouldn't put up with moonshine with a high methanol content or just sub par crap alcohol that tastes like shit so with weed I don't see why it should be any different.

To be clear I'm talking about weed that's been sprayed with nasty sugar solutions or not flushed at all. I don't think there's any problem with weaker weed that's seeded but as soon as they start spraying it with sugar/glass or whatever I think it crosses a line. I dont know, maybe I'm too much of an idealist but I like to think I have priciples (or would have if I were selling which I'm not because it entails too much risk at the moment). Really I don't think it's necessary to sell to finance free weed in the long term anyway. If you must, grow some bag seed outdoors. The number of 'pot for pennies' grow diaries I've seen is inspiring so I think it's just greed rather than striving to be self sufficient IMO. If you're growing indoors even, the cost is far less than buying commerial weed from dealers even if it isn't free. A 250W HID grow could yield ounces and the cost would be very low so the idea that you have to sell to support your own habit doesn't hold up to scrutiny IMO. I think they'll tell you this is the case because they're trying to justify their decisions but it's not true if you really think about it. Even if you are paying the small electricity cost for personal use it's still so small in the long run, however I do accept your sentiment, but really, I believe the main reason this stuff goes on is simply because they can get away with it due to the lack of regulation in the market.
 
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Hey now! Although I agree that it is probably a rare scenario... I do have two examples to the contrary:

Back in highschool, after our dro dealer had moved away, my friend and I once bought some schwag that had a thin strip of what looked like blotter paper in the bag with it. We were quite upset, because he had assumed that the paper was included in the weight, and this guy's weed was usually dirt anyway. The weed itself looked even worse than usual, but, being the reckless highschoolers that we were, we indulged. A single hitter got us all higher than the dro we had been used to, but I remember a distinct burning sensation in the eyes and tongue. The taste is a bit harder to remember all these years later, but it reminded me of that dentist's office smell. Anyway, after a second bowl I became incredibly uncomfortable. My vision started to tunnel and it was as if the contrast had been turned up. I guess you would call it "seeing stars", but everything seemed to become pixelated and oscillated in and out of brightness and clarity. I heard a flanging sound reminiscent of nitrous oxide, and slowly the previously-mentioned pixels replaced everything in my field of vision. Everyone and everything was made up from these, but they were moving at different rates, so solid objects (and especially people) slowly lost their continuity. Watching this unfold quickly became a cumbersome task, so I attempted an escape by closing my eyes. This provided temporary alleviation, but soon the light patterns on the backs of my eyelids took amorphous forms of eyes and teeth. (It should be noted that I have never had a negative experience prior or since and that these shapes did not appear scary to me; it was more of an overwhelming, or even annoying experience. I wouldn't put the potency of this experience beyond the limits of THC; I have had near religious experiences from the stuff, but this was quite distinct in its effects.) Still uncomfortable with my current state, I opened my eyes again only to find the pixelation resuming. From there on out, I oscillated between opening by eyes and holding them them shut as each became difficult to bear. Needless to say, at the end of the experience I was entirely worn out, and a splitting headache and deep red eyes plagued me the rest of the day. Now I, too, would chalk this up to my being young, inexperienced and psyching myself out, were it not for the next day! You see, we kept that tiny strip of blotter paper and the next day when a third friend didn't believe us so we told him to smoke part of the strip of paper. He put it into a pipe, and after a single hit, he told us he felt like he had taken a pull from a nitrous balloon. We watched his skin lose its pallor as his eyes became immediately red and soon he was talking about tongue numbness. I do not claim to know what was in our weed that day, (the other two still insist PCP) but I would certainly call that "laced".

My other encounter was back in my distribution days. One shipment I received had not been cured properly and was not quite up to par with what my clientele were expecting, so it had gained a nickname: "the wet beast". After being unable to move it for over a week, I began to worry. Luckily for me, JWH-018 and JWH-200 had just hit the scene in my area and damn were they cheap! I dissolved a gram of each into alcohol and sprayed them onto an ounce of weed (well 2oz, a gram for each). I let several people try it out, and they greatly preferred it to the unlaced beasters. The JWH-200 blend was my favorite, but everyone else preferred the 018 and started calling it "the mad beast", so I mixed up the rest with that and ended up getting rid of all of it all in time for the next shipment which was back to par. Let it be known that I informed all parties of exactly what they were smoking and was not trying to trick anyone! Though I cannot speak for those down the chain..
 
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^ We know it's happened. It's happened to most of us long-time smokers, but two simple facts prevail here:
1) We cannot ID substances here. It just can't be reliably done.
2) Much, much more often then not, we people say "I think this is laced with XYZ," they just got really high off their ass and then got paranoid.

Obviously there are much more rare situations where this is not true. I've given my buddy a bag of chronic (here it means A grade cannabis + cocaine) for his birthday and spaced out telling him I mixed in coke, and I've smoked plenty of bags that my friends have done similar things with.
 
hehe this brought me back

i used to live at a cut house with a few other dudes, one of whom was a stoner ass thief. one day we rolled up a joint and dipped it in wet and left it on the table knowing he would smoke it. sure enough we come home hours later and he's raging mad at us for "dusting" him, all i can think of is GTA san andreas

THEM ESES PUT DUST IN MY WEED
 
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