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Push for 5-HTP legalisation?

VelocideX

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What do you think the chances are of getting 5-HTP approved for sale in Australia based on its legal status elsewhere in the world?

Do any of you think a petition would be effective?

Would it be worthwhile pushing for it for its mild antidepressant/insomnia relieving effects or for MDMA harm minimisation?
 
in my honest opinion, the best way to try get it pushed through would be to get people to use it in the treatment of anorexia...


when a person suffers from anorexia, they also lose their serotonin, hence why they are usually depressed and dont want to eat....
 
I found 5htp is a better treatment for depressive symptoms then any tri or hetrocyclic medication. I will be behind it 100%.
 
Any possible assistance 5-HTP provides in helping restore serotonin levels after MDMA would need to be scientifically validated first. At the moment it is not yet proven that it makes a difference. That being said, even if it were proven I think that it is an impossible fight to be endorsed on that basis as an MDMA recovery treatment. It's other health benefits are what you would need to exploit, as these would also have been scientifically studied before.
 
Originally posted by VelocideX
Good point Cowboy Mac. How would you go about doing it? What sort of costs are involved? Would you have to undertake your own studies? Or would you be able to rely on preexisting ones?

A search of pubmed reveals 3876 studies referencing 5-HTP.

Yep, there are a few out there, and those studies are what you will want to draw on. They are credible, have been scientifically executed, and are free for you to reference. It would be handy to have a literature review on 5-HTP so you know what the general conclusions of all these studies have been. If they don't positively support the outcome of 5-HTP being used to treat conditions, then there is no basis for the TGA to approve it.

I would suggest calling the TGA and asking them what processes a product needs to follow before it can be approved for general sale. I think it would be unfeasible to conduct anything yourself, so drawing on the existing literature would be the best option I believe.
 
Considering the fact that someone died (im told this by a reputable health food company who sold a lot of it) as a result of MAOI/5HTP reaction and serotonin syndrome. This is why it is not longer avaliable for sale in Australia.

However i would love to see it allowed for sale once again. That would cut down on the orders which take 2 months from the US :)

Go Velo %)
 
I agree about not conducting studies myself. Not only do I not have time for it, I don't have the money either :P

Backindauk -- People on MAOIs are warned very stringently about what they can/cannot take. If that is the case, pseudoephedrine should have been withdrawn from the market too.

I think the USA has re-approved tryptophan for sale... It remains a prescription medication here on the basis that in some people it increases the risk of seizures.
 
My local pharmacist told me (like the E FAQ did) that 5-htp was no longer sold anymore. However, a friend (who is more into uppers and clubbing than me) is certain he has obtained 5-htp recently from a pharmacist.

Is it more likely that he has bought a product with 5-htp in it, or he really did get 5-htp?
Are there any multivit with 5-htp in it?
 
Winterborn: you can actually buy it in Queensland in an overpriced formulation containing other vitamin crap.

VelocideX: perhaps you could investigate why it is legal to sell in that supplement in Queensland, but not on its own Australia wide.
 
I have always wondered about that... especially given that the TGA is supposed to have national control over the registration of health products.
 
Cowboy Mac said:
Winterborn: you can actually buy it in Queensland in an overpriced formulation containing other vitamin crap.

VERY overpriced. I have mine right in front of me.

Brand: Thorne Research
Contents: 90 Capsules. Each containing:

5-Hydroxytryptophan 50mg
Vitamin B6 (from 5 mg. Pyridoxal 5'- Phosphate) 3.4mg

Price: $62.80

Bought from my local healthfood shop in QLD.
 
mrephedrine69 said:
VERY overpriced. I have mine right in front of me.

Brand: Thorne Research
Contents: 90 Capsules. Each containing:

5-Hydroxytryptophan 50mg
Vitamin B6 (from 5 mg. Pyridoxal 5'- Phosphate) 3.4mg

Price: $62.80

Bought from my local healthfood shop in QLD.

I just paid nzd 60.10 for the exact same product, so it aint much better here, that should last two months though, i think.
 
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