Pure Diazepam--- need binders?

[swamprat]

I JUST PICKED UP 5 GRAMS OF KLONA POWDER,THE 151 WORKS BUT I USUALLY PUT THEM IN CAPS AND TRADE THEM FOR MSIR'S MY FAVORITE!!

 

[booyakasha]

SWEET!!!!

 

[negrogesic]

i hope thats not what they are issuing. thats like 5x less potent than reg. diazepam.

Hey moron, you dont know what the hell your talking about! Nordiazepam is equipotent to diazepam...........Where do you get your info? According to my info:

"Similar activity like diazepam, half-life in body 30-90 hrs, danger of cumulation! Dose: 5 mg nordiazepam = 5 mg diazepam, metabolite: oxazepam. Strong tranquillizer, higher doses induce sleep. Warning! Abuse leeds to habituation/addiction!"

And yea, the withdrawal is fucking horrible, especially at this dose. I started detoxing but got sick enough to raise my dose to avoid the withdrawal. But i need to tell my employer im going on "vacation" and detox myself off this shit......

 

[hardlean]

(LOL) at negro!!!

 

[booyakasha]

just because we're not in a face to face setting does not give you the right to flat out be rude and childish, however.

being polite is nice.
calling people a moron (even when they are being one, temporarily) is a dick move.

cool, have a day.

 

[negrogesic]

If you think calling people names is so horrible, why did you call me two worse names, "hey asshole, don't call me a moron, fuckhead". You defeat the point of your post by doing this. You apparently have not been posting here for long, and when someone corrects you, even if its in an uncouth manner, you dont respond by calling them names. You take it, and be glad you learned something. Responding by calling people names, especially if you were completely incorrect, is referred to as "flaming", and we dont need anymore than we already have. By responding the way you did, you only confirmed your ignorance. The most common way misinformation spreads is by word of mouth, but that doesnt remove the blame from the person that regurgitates it, like in your case ," im usually not 2 bad about checking the facts, but in this case i went from word of mouth." And dont make posts in all capital letters.

Also, you said:

diazepam isn't soluble in water, or alcohol.

You are incorrect, diazepam is soluble in ethanol. Did someone else tell you this as well? I just want to stop the spread of misinformation. Perhaps i shouldnt of called you a moron, but you sure were behaving like one.........

There is no need to respond to this, i dont want to get anymore off topic. In regard to the powder, i have been adding a small amount of powdered pepto-bismulth to the capsules, and it seems to help a little. It is the higher doses that are more problematic. The sharp kidney pains from very high doses are still confusing, but it might have to do with some sort of renal toxicity, but i rarely take such heroic doses anymore............

 

[booyakasha]

i'm sorry you couldn't pick up on the sarcasm of me calling you those "two worse names" really. i was kidding.

excuse me for asking but can you post a link to back up the ethanol solubitlity claim? ive researched it on erowid and cant seem to find anything and all google brings up is links to sites that wanna sell me stuff.

i don't know where my manners are these days, i am way too easily offended and tend to over-do it in some of my posts. i apologize. if you could post where the info. is, tho, i'd appreciate it.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I could not get pure diazapam to disolve in alcohol or water. I also find it works best to just put the powder on the tongue. There is surprisingly little flavor, and effects begin in just a few minutes.

 

[negrogesic]

Diazepam can be dissolved in alcoho, but not completely. Not all dissolves if you mix it together, i have tried this a couple times. Saying its insoluble in alcohol is incorrect. I have tried it using lab grade ethanol and a good portion dissolved, and injected the part that did dissolve. Most people use vodka or an equivolent, so their results arent as great, as it has water in it. I know this because of experience, i dont feel the need to provide sources. but if you want a source, this shows its partially solublity:




solubility

 

[hardlean]

need help

I just picked up an oz of klona powder,To get the most out of it with out mixing with alchol,what would be the binders to add to capsules,and does it correctly.thanx,hl

 

[blahblahblah]

hardlean-

There is no need to add any binders unless you happen to be pressing pills, which it doesnt sound like you are. Just put the powder in the gel-caps or let it disolve under your tounge. Thats about it...

 

[hardlean]

Or where does one find a pill press,as I won't be using all this As I trade for other goodies

 

[negrogesic]

Man, i got out of hand with clonazapam powder. Its easy to take 60mg-80mg and get yourself into some embarrasing situations, like car accidents and the like. Luckly it doesnt last as long as diazepam, but a large dose still takes a long time to clear.