Public vs Private Schools

[TiTTy]

I was curious on what peoples views are on public and private schools?

Some people belive it is better having single sex schools so people don't get distracted while studying however can this effect a persons ability to socialize with the other sex?

Are students given more opportunities in pivate schools or is this a load of shit?

Government funding. Private school I think (i could be wrong) get more government funding than public school however the fees for attending private schools are so much higher. Why is this so? Do you belive this is fair?

What school are/did you go to? Was it public or private?

just thought of another question. Say in the future if you had kids where would you send them?
I know at alot of private schools in Perth it is very likley that three or more generations have passed through the school.

Yeah I'm just curious, so post me your opinions on anything regarding public and private schools.

 

[chrissie]

I went to an all-girl catholic high school. I wanted to attend the free public high school because at my school individuality was basically frowned upon, especially since we had to wear uniforms. I remember once we had a day exchange program with the boys school, so some of the top students would switch places with each other for the day. Once a boy was in the classroom, the girls were noticeably chattier and more distracted. It was nice to go to school without the distractions of guys because you wouldnt be sitting there drooling over someone all day... but either way I wouldnt have paid much attention to my teacher. And I think the girls at my school would just go nuts on weekends and sleep around, because our school was known for pregnant girls. But I dont know if it was a higher ratio than a co-ed public school. One messed up thing about my education was that because it was a catholic school, they wouldnt/couldnt educate you about birth control/std protection because they had to teach abstinence. That could also be the reason why there were lots of pregnant girls.

Ok, thats enough of a ramble for me :D But I will say that if I had kids, I would seriously consider homeschooling. The education system in America is seriously flawed.

 

[`eternity-dre]

i went to melbourne high school
~ for all purposes a private school, althrough technically a state school.. only difference between us and the other private schools was the cost, oh and melbourne high is accademic, so its not all prissy rich kids.

the same sex (all boys) atmosphere was definetly an advantage accademically, however the point does apply that not being in contact with girls affects your social life/skills.. this wasnt a problem with me because i knew plenty of girls from all the private all girls schools in the city (met through friends, on the train etc) - but this did apply to the majority, especially being an accademic school (nerds!@@).

students DEFINETLY get way more oppurtunities.. in basically everything, be it access to information/knowledge to sporting or out of class activities.

not sure if my school gets higher goverment funding (due to rep) but melbourne high gets all its money from the many old boys who are now rich and successful (ie. lindsay fox often comes to visit in his helicopter).

overall, mhs SHITS on public schools.. and likely any of the private schools too.. hi to moe or anyone else from school if you end up replying to this

oh and yes, private school does make you fiercly arrogant towards the subject, i have a lot pf pride towards my old school

 

[Pleonastic]

As the wave beats search the shore...

 

[Jubas]

i went to a private school in sydney who's name i might leave out.. it was single sex until year 11, where girls were introduced. my parents chose for me to go there and spend the huge amount of money on my education.

my view of the school? i thought it was pretty bad.. some teachers were great, others were shocking.. the actual student body on the whole were stuck up rich whinging dickheads who had too much money.
i was at the sort of school where when kids got their Ps, they'd be bought a car.. quite often a BMW.
it was pretty disgusting.. most of my primary school friends went to a public selective school, and looking back i wish i went there.. i made great friends at highschool, but damn it was annoying at times.
eg, they fully supported rugby, despite the fact that we sucked at it. so they organised for everyone in teh school to rock up on a saturday arvo or some bs to watch them. if you didn't go it was a detention. fuck. that.
besides, the soccer was on the field next to the rugby where we actually were champions or something.. so we all went to watch that instead.

 

[doofqueen]

I went to catholic private schools in primary and high school even though my parents could not afford it. They wanted to to have a catholic education however (being polish it's a big thing) and they thought it was better quality in education.

In years 7 and 8 it was all girls and when we went into year 9 they merged it with the boys school across the road.

I think all one gender schools would be good for kids because their is less of a distraction to looking at the opposite sex. For example i really didn't care what i looked like when it was all girls and didn't start shaving my legs till i knew boys would be there hehehe (although my parents would not let me do that either)

I though the high schools were fairly disapline especially in the uniform area but i think because of this (and the strict disiplin under my parents) i rebelled something shocking.

good catholic school girl pregnant at 16 oh the shame of it all!!!

although having said this when we did merge schools i was really shy around the boys (ignore the pregnant bit now hehehe) although seriously i just had no idea how to act around them for the first six months because i also grew up with no brothers and only two sisters in the house.

When my son started school i sent him to a private catholic school. Mainly because i wanted him to go to the school i wanted to go to and my littlest sister was attending there aswell so i thought it would be "neat" to do so ...kinda shows how young i still was really I also did it to please my parents i think subconciously.

We had to out of the area for a six month period and there were no catholic schools there so i put him in a public school.

Since moving back to my original area i decided against putting him into the same school as before mainly due to the fact that in the time away my thoughts on religion changed and my look at spirituality was different and i didn't want to force my child or even "feed" him what religion he should be believing in (if any if he chooses to)

I don't really know if public or private get more or less funding or if its better quality or not.

I like the fact that my son is in a public school now because he is mixing with kids from all different socio ecconomic backgrounds and not a school full of "prissy snobby rich " kids because *I* personally being one of the poorer kids in a private school always felt ike a pauper and out of place knowing my family didn't have the money, cars , occupations that my peers had ...it always made me feel kinda shit really

I'm trying to show my son the diversity in the world and that money is not important. That our skin colour doesnt matter, nor does our finanicial situations, social classes, genders, sexuality etc etc etc .... treat people how you want to be treated....look at people in an equal way and judge people on their charachter and how they treat you and not how much money is in their bank account

 

[`eternity-dre]

very commendable doofqueen, and i wholeheartedly agree with you there.

i think sending kids to private or religious primary schools is a TAD overkill.. i learnt all of what doofqueen said at a public primary school before ending up at a private high school.. so i guess you could say i had the best of both worlds?

just a thought.

 

[pubeman]

People from private schools seem to only want to socialise with other rich people. They all end up having to sit the same exams, so does it really matter. In many ways public schools prepare you for life a lot better, ie if you don't pull your finger out you will get left behind. The teachers are there to teach the students, not babysit and spoon feed them. In my experience, i have found that the private school kids were into drugs alcohol etc at a much, much younger age than public school kids.

 

[astrosmurf]

private schools recieve about 70% of government funding whilst public schools recieve about 30%. this is despite the fact that private schools cater to only 30% of the population whilst public cater to 70%.

i'm against private schooling and will definately be sending my children to public schools. as pubeman said, you tend to get more life skills at public schools and aren't taught views of the world that are influenced by religious beliefs.
i don't believe the quality of educqtion is any better in private schools, it's just that they can afford different things, e.g. smaller class sizes, more resources, etc. but maybe if the government changed the way it funds things than public schools would have a bit more of a chance??

 

[nezo]

and the river finds the sea

 

[syntech]

i went to public schools, one in WA and three in tassie.
the quality of teaching and amount of school funding was greatly different between the two states. as soon as i got to tassie i went downhill (not seriously) and it was almost certainly to do with the crap way of teaching in tassie.

however i dont believe i will ever want to send my children to a private school because i think its too sheltered, a lot of them are catholic etc and i dont want my kids forced to learn to fear god and i probly wont be able to afford it.
i think private schools are unfairly funded and regarded so much higher than public schools. education is a right, not an opportunity and all children should be given an equal chance in achieving their dreams.

 

[doofqueen]

I know i won't want to each in a catholic school when i garduate because i don't believe i could teach something i don't believe in (even though i think the pays are higher) although i would like to teach in a steiner school and they are private and quite expensive to attend but i really like their teaching methods. I wish i could afford to send my son to one actually.

 

[anna!]

I was private schooled from the time I was 4 years old until I finished high school when I was 18. I was at the same private school for all of those years except for my final year.

pubeman's post stood out the most for me:

People from private schools seem to only want to socialise with other rich people. They all end up having to sit the same exams, so does it really matter.

Untrue. I think you'll find that because a lot of private school students live in "richer" suburbs and go to school with "richer" kids, they have no choice but to socialise with "rich people". I don't see that they should have to go out to Craigieburn to find lower income earners to befriend just for the sake of having acquaintances who are less well off. I had a lot of friends who went to public schools but who were still from "rich" families - they'd have been my friends whether I was at a private school or not, because they lived nearby or were friends of the family or whatever.

In many ways public schools prepare you for life a lot better, ie if you don't pull your finger out you will get left behind.

Try explaining to your parents that you're about to waste $160,000 of their money because you didn't pull your finger out and the school wants to suspend you for lack of attendance. They'll pull your finger out for you if need be. I, personally, am a lot more motivated career-wise than many of my public school friends - but I feel it's not really relevant to the type of schooling. IMO, it has a lot to do with role models - my parents are self-made millionaires and that provides me with a fantastic basis for how I'd like my life to pan out. I know that if I don't make steps towards that, it won't happen. We had five careers counsellors at school to make sure we understood that.

The teachers are there to teach the students, not babysit and spoon feed them.

At any school you go to, you'll have to do the work or you'll fail. Contrary to popular opinion, you can't bribe good marks out of teachers, and teachers in private schools don't do the work for anyone. Smaller class sizes and more one-on-one interaction with tutors and advisors may give the impression of spoon-feeding, but my opinion is that it's just more hands-on. I think it's incredibly beneficial to have close contact with teachers.

In my experience, i have found that the private school kids were into drugs alcohol etc at a much, much younger age than public school kids.

I agree. Although I wasn't, and I didn't touch any alcohol at all until I was 17, the vast majority of students at my schools were boozing it up every weekend from about Year 7 onwards, which, looking back on it, is just appalling. But some of the kids I went to school with would come to school $50 a day to spend at the tuckshop, and a lot of them had older brothers and sisters. It makes sense that they went and spent it on booze. I'm sure that's a parenting problem, rather than a school problem.

Baby crying, I'll finish this soon.

 

[Whire Rabbit]

[rant] Private (esp single-sex (esp ones that are bent on religion)) schools deform children's mentality. Almost all my girlfriends have been from private schools and I'll be dead before I go out with another one. Something about the way they are treated but private school kids are (of course not all) spoilt, insecure, uncaring, selfish and just generally fucked up in just about every way imaginable. The shit I used to hear from my girlfriends about what happens between friends at their schools was fucking shocking. [/rant]

 

[BloSs0m]

im at a pricate all girls school. I went to a public primary school. i would have stayed in government education if i hadnt gotten a scholarship to the school im at now.

I've hated my school right through. Until this year. I hated it, because, as someone else said in an earlier post - individuality is frowned upon. I found this horrible. and basically just kicked out at the school. The teachers. the princable and all those kinds of people that i thought not wearing my blazer, my hair ribbon and smoking in my disgraceful uniform at lunchtime down the street would hurt. Eventually ive come to realise i was only hurting myself. As for the girls, yes some of them a bitches, some of them are lovely. But i think any school with girls is going to be bitchy . i mean teenage girls no matter where are going to be bitchy. Especailly in an ALL girls school where there has to be a certain amount of girls with PMT everyday. Though, ive never really had ay desire to reall mix with the girls outside of school, As ive alwasy had all my "other" friends through everything else i do.

but this year, i think being in yr 12, and even in yr 11, everyone has gotten over the bitchiness, and the crap that they threw down over the past years. I htink the thing about private schools, especially private girls schools is that they are VERY "cliquey", and for that reson very bitchy.

i used to hate the uniform rules, but now i really cant be bother breaking MY OWN stupid records for the most amount of detentions in a term (one very week fo a term, with 7 left ovr into the following term, i mean come on what was wrong with me!?) because its just easier to wear my blazer and ribbon. Its easier to wait til after school and have a cigarette. Its easier to just accept that the rules are put in place to help us and create a better learning environment.

at my school, as with a lot of other single sex schools, we have a "Brother" school, and lots of co curricluar opportunities are offer in collaboration with the boys school - drama, music, some sport etc etc. So are socail skills arent stunted.

I still do believe that its important to send kids to a co educational primary school. The social skills that you gain from co-ed primary schooling become REALLY apparant when u get to high school and you meet the girls who have been at private girls/boys schools since pre prep and they cant even say the word "boys" without giggling, and they wouldnt know how to say hi to a boy with out dying of fright.

i personally feel i learn better in an acedemic, single sex environment, but thats just me. Other girls i now have been at all girls schools and moved to co ed and they LOVE it. sae with boys. and they can learn equally if not better in these situations. I think the best thing is to choose the school based on the child.

ta!

<omg! could i have written any more!! phew~!>

 

[notneo]

Private schools will help you get a better mark and there's no 2 ways about it. However the sorts of people that go to private schools are the sorts of people I laugh at when walking down the street.

I switched to a public school / tafe to complete my last year over 2 years and it's a miracle to find alot of people who think and do things the same as me.

 

[anna!]

However the sorts of people that go to private schools are the sorts of people I laugh at when walking down the street.

Elaborate?

 

[stacyrox]

I went to a private school.

My parents arent rich. My friends arent rich. I'm not a stuck up snob.

And believe me, guys at school are only a novelty if they arent there all the time.

Its so easy to make generalisations. I could make a whole heap about public school kids. But I've never been to public school, so I dont really know, just what I've seen. And we all know how much we hate people generalising about groups of people they dont understand.... dont we?

stace.

 

[Jubas]

private schools recieve about 70% of government funding whilst public schools recieve about 30%. this is despite the fact that private schools cater to only 30% of the population whilst public cater to 70%.

i don't think you've got it quite right...
from memory,

your case is true for federal spending..
but its opposite for state spending..

overall, they get about the same total funding. i can't remember where i read it, but it was reputable!
i'll hunt for it

a lot of kids don't have a choice in their schooling.. i was told to go to a private.. i wish i went to public.. at least my parents wouldn't have the line "we spent all this money on you!"
hehe

 

[Pseudo G]

Hmm, its turning out to be a bit of private school verbal bashing. So heres my point of view. I've done both, private (catholic, *shrug* same shit) and public.

I don't believe theres much difference in terms of teachers. I'm not even going to touch on the funding thing. But one thing I did notice was the difference in the students. Not with private people being stuck up etc etc. You can be less than wealthy and still stuck up. But people in private/catholic seemed to take their education more seriously, especially after yr 10 when further education was not compulsory. Perhaps this was because their parents were paying large amounts of money for the privilege.

A story in The West Australian new paper for 01/03 on page 9 declares that the % of private school students entering the University Of Western Australia (has the highest cut off scores for any university in Australia) is 61.7%. This isn't attributed to full fee paying students either.

And as for religion making a mess of peoples head. If you head is small and simple enough to be manipulated by an individual or an institution without thinking about what the meaning and relevence IS to YOUR life rather than what they SAY the relevence SHOULD be, you deserved to be messed in the head. If not the church it would be something/one else.