Psychotic Episode on LSD

[elkingcgm]

So, I have taken LSD before, and had a great pleasant time-great visuals, nice feelings, etc. This time I took it, it didnt hit for like 2 hours, and then it came head on. So hard I don't remember ANYTHING except I felt I was going to die, and had terrible hallucinations about a clown saying the reality I knew was all fake, and that I had created it myself to cope with a problem I had inside. The next thing I remember is being awake the next day. My boyfriend, who tripped with me, was telling me I was screaming and yelling and passed out foaming at the mouth and drooling and oozing mucus out of my eyes and nose and mouth, and he had to drag me around the apartment to keep me from laying in the pools of goo. Apparently I got up with eyes rolled back in the head at one point and tried to drown myself in the shower? I was alarmed. Then I started to feel funny, and passed out again. My eyes were closed and it had been 20 hours since ingestion, but there were bright flashes going on, and then the clown came back telling me to not believe anything my boyfriend said, because he was a figment of my imagination and not real. I woke up several hours later with my boyfriend shaking me and telling me to wake up. I was confused and crying and didnt know what was going on. I spent the whole day listening to my boyfriend try to convince me what was reality and what wasnt. It took me a very long time to accept the clown was lying and that my boyfriend was real. He then told me that I had gotten up with my eyes rolled back in my head again and started drawing strange and disturbing images, he was afraid they were what I was hallucinating about, so he threw them away before I could see them and have them trigger another episode. Am I going to be okay? WHat happened? I do NOT plan on taking LSD again, I am afraid if I do I won't be able to be brought back out of wherever I was mentally lost in.

 

[Ismene]

You'll be fine.

No need to use SWIM btw.

 

[EarthBounded]

So, SWIM has taken LSD before, and had a great pleasant time-great visuals, nice feelings, etc. This time SWIM took it, it didnt hit for like 2 hours, and then it came head on. So hard SWIM doesnt remember ANYTHING except they felt they were going to die, and had terrible hallucinations about a clown saying the reality SWIM knew was all fake, and that SWIM had created it herself to cope with a problem she had inside. The next thing SWIM remembers is being awake the next day. Her boyfriend, who tripped with her, was telling her she was screaming and yelling and passed out foaming at the mouth and drooling and oozing mucus out of her eyes and nose and mouth, and he had to drag her around the apartment to keep her from laying in the pools of goo. Apparently SWIM got up with eyes rolled back in the head at one point and tried to drown herself in the shower? SWIM was alarmed. Then swim started to feel funny, and passed out again. SWIMS eyes were closed and it had been 20 hours since ingestion, but there were bright flashes going on, and then the clown came back telling swim to not believe anything her boyfriend said, because he was a figment of her imagination and not real. SWIM woke up several hours later with her boyfriend shaking her and telling her to wake up. She was confused and crying and didnt know what was going on. SWIM spent the whole day listening to her boyfriend try to convince her what was reality and what wasnt. It took SWIM a very long time to accept the clown was lying and that her boyfriend was real. He then told SWIM that she had gotten up with her eyes rolled back in her head again and started drawing strange and disturbing images, he was afraid they were what SWIM was hallucinating about, so he threw them away before SWIM could see them and have them trigger another episode. Is SWIM going to be okay? WHat happened? SWIM does NOT plan on taking LSD again, SWIM is afraid if she does she wont be able to be brought back out of wherever she was mentally lost in.

There is no way this was LSD, I would say never get shit from that source ever EVER again your lucky and thats super fucking sad, You will be fine just consider it a bad experience you will learn from there is nothing else you can do.

 

[kidklmx]

^Why can't this be acid? Has LSD only produced good experiences in the past? RCs are not to blame for everything ever.. (though the timeframe does imply a DOx, always test your blotter!)

Anyway, elkingcgm, everyone has a bad experience every once and a while. You need to integrate what has happened. This part is key if you want to have a good experience again, it's about taking your time and see where things might have gone wrong. Improve on that, then move on. It's not that these chemicals are inherently bad, but things like this can happen.

 

[EarthBounded]

^Why can't this be acid? Has LSD only produced good experiences in the past? RCs are not to blame for everything ever.. (though the timeframe does imply a DOx, always test your blotter!)

passed out foaming at the mouth and drooling and oozing mucus out of her eyes and nose and mouth, and he had to drag her around the apartment to keep her from laying in the pools of goo.

The foaming and mucus is almost a sure sign of an RC. Every article or thread relating to a DOI or 25i overdose will confirm this, I have seen thousands trip on LSD and no one has ever foamed at the mouth or at the eyeballs or nose.

Its becoming fact with people constantly reporting mucus and foaming at the mouth its fucking sad and not a negative side effect of pure LSD. Show me any report of guaranteed pure LSD making someone foam at the mouth. Brown acid from Woodstock does not count, same with tornado juice im talking decent L.

 

[1394]

^Why can't this be acid? Has LSD only produced good experiences in the past? RCs are not to blame for everything ever.. (though the timeframe does imply a DOx, always test your blotter!)

Anyway, elkingcgm, everyone has a bad experience every once and a while. You need to integrate what has happened. This part is key if you want to have a good experience again, it's about taking your time and see where things might have gone wrong. Improve on that, then move on. It's not that these chemicals are inherently bad, but things like this can happen.

I took 2 hours to kick in, it's not acid.

@ OP: If my gf was oozing shit out of her eyes, I'd have taken her to the hospital, just saying.

 

[Clocktower]

Yikes. Hopefully you have some of what you took left, so you can use an Ehrlich's reagent to find out if it was really LSD. This sort of thing is VERY unusual for normal or even moderately high doses of LSD, but it's a strange chemical so it's worth being sure.

 

[Anon0631]

There is no way this was LSD, I would say never get shit from that source ever EVER again your lucky and thats super fucking sad, You will be fine just consider it a bad experience you will learn from there is nothing else you can do.

Earthbounded: you are talking shit! LSD is perfectly capable of inducing a psychotic episode. Please don't preach harmful advice.

Brown acid from Woodstock does not count, same with tornado juice im talking decent L.

Sounds like you are just regurgitating fourth-hand information you have read in various forum posts. Please don't make uninformed proclamations and pass them off as fact. Both you, I and everyone else have no idea what 'brown acid' and 'tornado juice' are or if they even exist.

I'm assuming you weren't present at Woodstock with an NMR spectroscopy setup?

This sort of thing is VERY unusual for normal or even moderately high doses of LSD, but it's a strange chemical so it's worth being sure.

No it isn't. A casual visit to a psychiatric ward will knock that myth on the head. LSD like all psychedelics can induce psychosis. In fact LSD is probably more likely to cause it than many other compounds.

There's no way with the given information, we can be sure of the identity of the substance the OP took and she wasn't even asking for an ID. Can people please stop descending on every post which mentions a problem with LSD by suggesting that it was obviously a case of misrepresented substances? This might obviously be the case but its just as likely that the poster has access to good quality LSD and the problem reported is not due to a counterfeit.

OP: things will get better over time but I would advise cutting out all drugs (including alcohol and caffeine) until you feel grounded again. Eat healthy, sleep well and if you don't feel better in a week or two, seek psychiatric help.

Take care and I hope you feel well soon.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Hopefully you have some of what you took left, so you can use an Ehrlich's reagent to find out if it was really LSD.

It might not be relavent to your case elking, but if your friends are still using, testing this stuff would be smart (or at least dosing conservatively).

Am I going to be okay?

I think you'll be fine. Just take it easy for a while.

WHat happened?

Drug induced psychosis, most of us only make it there on stimulant binges, but it does happen to some people with psychedelics.

I do NOT plan on taking LSD again

A reasonable decision. Oh, and uh, oozing mucus, foaming at the mouth and losing consciousness are generally grounds for seeking emergency medical treatment.

 

[Anon0631]

^ The time frame of the trip, and the physical symptoms are suspect though. And the passing out/foaming at the mouth are reported in bomamine overdoses (esp. the fatal ones).

That might be, but I feel we spend far too much time trying to ID substances even though it's against the rules.

<rant>My issue here is that the "Sounds to me like it wasn't LSD" tactic is used to further the agenda of the 'LSD marketing board' by demonising all other substances in favour of their one of choice. After all this is the 'Psychedelics Forum' not the 'Everything is shit apart from LSD' forum.</rant>

 

[Clocktower]

No it isn't. A casual visit to a psychiatric ward will knock that myth on the head. LSD like all psychedelics can induce psychosis. In fact LSD is probably more likely to cause it than many other compounds.

Sorry, I had the physical symptoms in mind when I wrote that comment. I suppose that could have been clearer.

 

[coolcucumber]

The foaming and mucus is almost a sure sign of an RC. Every article or thread relating to a DOI or 25i overdose will confirm this, I have seen thousands trip on LSD and no one has ever foamed at the mouth or at the eyeballs or nose.

Its becoming fact with people constantly reporting mucus and foaming at the mouth its fucking sad and not a negative side effect of pure LSD. Show me any report of guaranteed pure LSD making someone foam at the mouth. Brown acid from Woodstock does not count, same with tornado juice im talking decent L.

True dat.

 

[kidklmx]

C'mon people, this discussion is useless. OP is having some real issues here and whether she had or didn't have LSD is really off topic... I called out on EarthBounded to show the discussion just doesn't belong in a thread like this, but it didn't really come across I guess. Pretty much, we can't possibly know what she had. The timeframe and the foaming does imply something else, but let's just say "Test Your Blotters" and leave it at that..

And yes, the state of drug distribution is really fucked up, but isn't that the point of legislation?

 

[EarthBounded]

C'mon people, this discussion is useless. OP is having some real issues here and whether she had or didn't have LSD is really off topic... I called out on EarthBounded to show the discussion just doesn't belong in a thread like this, but it didn't really come across I guess. Pretty much, we can't possibly know what she had. The timeframe and the foaming does imply something else, but let's just say "Test Your Blotters" and leave it at that..

And yes, the state of drug distribution is really fucked up, but isn't that the point of legislation?

I agree Kidklmx I do respect your response and your right the OP is having serious problems and should go to the Doctor if she is concerned. I would guess that she will be fine considering she was able to start this thread in the first place and is living. Now I feel we have a much larger problem on our hands and if there was a mega thread on RCs being passed off as LSD we wouldn't have to debate it in threads...

This is a completely relevant argument, The thread is titled Psycotic episode on LSD which I believe to be false for starters.

Foaming and Mucus coming from eyes mouth and nose
taking 2 hours to kick in
Lasting for 20 hours

Im sorry but this is not LSD. Lets imagine it was and lets say the chemist made a very little batch lets say 10 grams... Thats 100,000 hits ...

Here on bluelight we would be hearing more stories about a bad batch of L not just 1/100,000 people reporting this.

Its completely relevant and important for the OP to understand she may have taken a different substance.

In my town about 95% of blotters test fake and 5% of WOW pass with low dosage...

Its an epidemic and people are dying sit around and justify RCs all you want however these are for scientific research only and should not be consumed for recreational use. Everyone claims they are here for harm reduction, I guess there are a few different perspectives on this.

Anon I am not saying LSD can't cause a psychotic episode... I am judging the Physical side effects presented.

A psychotic episode on LSD is also a lot different than what the OP has described.

All we can really say to the OP is we hope you get better and just learn from this little road bump in your life. If need be see a doctor ASAP

I also wouldn't consider warning people about this epidemic as Identifying substances. Especially when this could be crucial for the OP understanding whats going on. Yea if we asked for pictures or what it looked like that would be against the rules..

 

[kidklmx]

There is a B&D on this topic actually...

And yeah I overlooked the foaming and the eye rolling in my initial post, that's pretty worrisome. I think as a community we need to step up and stop discussing this though, whatever the blotter was it doesn't matter. It's a dangerous situation and we should just point out that the blotter might be something else, she should test it and see if a doctor can have her checked so she can be sure she's not in immediate danger. Anything else is just camp-RC vs camp-"The Classics" and should be saved for another time.

 

[EarthBounded]

There is a B&D on this topic actually...

Sweet thanks for the link!

I think as a community we need to step up and stop discussing this though, whatever the blotter was it doesn't matter.

100% Disagree, as a community we need to fully educate everyone to the best of our abilities, the reason this is such a big problem is a lack of information, keep in mind such a small percent of people that actually know whats going on, this is precisely why dealers get away with this. The reason it is such a big problem with LSD opposed to other drugs is the microgram aspect with a similar effect making vendors able to replicate the drug almost precisely just a hell of alot more dangerous. If heroin cocaine and meth were in the 100mcg dosage range im sure these would be a huge problem too you just cant fake those drugs like you can LSD-25, Thats why its a non stop rant on "ACID" Posting.

Putting this is the dark is down right terrifying, it is an epidemic. Imagine pharmaceuticals were dispensed as 100s of different kinds of new compounds getting created everyday our entire population would be in danger, obviously there are not as many people taking L as pharmas it is just an example and we as a community are the only ones who can stop it.

I feel most people trying to justify these compounds here are actively taking and making money with RCs and trying to make themselves feel better.

Anything else is just camp-RC vs camp-"The Classics" and should be saved for another time.

Again disagree until the problem is stopped. Im guessing it gets annoying for some people which is unfortunate. However the more people who become aware the better, not to mention the different levels of violence that are popping up because of RCs.

The simple fact is most if not all of these kinds of occurrences ( with the above mentioned physical side effects ) are not LSD and this cant be overlooked.

If someone posts about how they got butt ass naked and ran around the mall shouting out wierd shit, yea we can potentially recognize those as LSD case ... If someone has a change in consciousness, and unpleasant experience. Then yes These are proven side effects of LSD and it could be an LSD case, and I agree with anon LSD can send someone to the psych ward ( however I do not believe they are full of LSD-25 users, and I do not believe people stay there longer than a couple days unless under rare circumstances, any drug can do this).

The choice is yours on how you want to handle the "ACID" Scene.

For me I am boycotting it completely until things change. My heart is with anyone who had correct intentions with the real thing.

That is it for now I am done with this thread I sincerely hope the OP comes back and updates us on how she is doing, I hope your feeling better!

 

[kidklmx]

You'd make a great point IF we could make a difference. We don't though, and so I look at what's best for this community and how we could actually reduce harm being done. This very discussion never leads anywhere, it destroys the thread and scares people from coming on here again. That's not harm reduction at all..

Plus, very time something is wrong with someone's trip they blame it on RCs, which puts a strain on the public perception of the whole RC scene. LSD is NOT perfect (damned good though :D), and people need to learn to accept that. This is also what Anon is saying I think, but with a more extreme stance.

I agree though, it's all pretty bad. I think we can actually say that "they" are winning the war on drugs right now.. And that's coming from someone who has never bought an RC that was supposed to be LSD, maybe if I were living in the US I would take the same stance as you...

 

[Ismene]

A casual visit to a psychiatric ward will knock that myth on the head. LSD like all psychedelics can induce psychosis. In fact LSD is probably more likely to cause it than many other compounds.

What is this horseshit you keep pulling out of your ass Anon? When did you last make a "casual visit" to the mental ward and what did you see to give you this deluded opinion?

The chances of ending up in the mental ward after taking LSD are pretty much nill.

 

[TangerinO]

What is this horseshit you keep pulling out of your ass Anon? When did you last make a "casual visit" to the mental ward and what did you see to give you this deluded opinion?

The chances of ending up in the mental ward after taking LSD are pretty much nill.

+1

You can definitely freak out fucking hard on LSD, I know because I have. That being said I am totally fine. I still take LSD. I remember one party where a guy got unexpectedly dosed with like 10 drops while he was asleep. He went off the tracks BIG TIME. But lo and behold, he too is completely fine.

LSD can be an absurdly terrifying ride sometimes, but unless you've got some sort of mental disorder, it's one of the safest drugs there is.

 

[Ismene]

True Tangerino, there's a vast, unimaginable gulf between tripping hard for 2 or 3 hours and being permanently insane once the drug wears off.