Psychosis and MXE (Methoxetamine)

[Jabberwocky]

I felt this topic and experience warranted a new thread.

Please, anyone share their experience with using MXE and developing psychosis. Please limit your post to psychosis that developed from MXE (or other dissociates) only, not other substances, or psychedelic substances, like LSD or mushrooms. Or psychosis that occurred alongside, before or after, or related to in some way, your MXE use.

Here's my post in the Big & Dandy Methoxetamine (MXE) Thread - Hit #12:

Loved this stuff. Took it for 9 months. Started out and continued snorting it for the longest time. Took several long road trips on it. I thinned out a TON driving like that, and got dangerous probably three times. But other than that, I stayed at a manageable dose and played my music loud, sped, and loved it.

Then, I got into plugging huge doses. I started to go downhill mentally, and the substance didn't help me.

Also, it's important for me to note - for harm reduction purposes - although I've had paranoia for a lot of the time all of my life (neighbors watching me while I get into my car, etc), the first time I ever "heard voices" was on MXE. The voices have since stopped, but the substance did seem to spur a latent episode of psychosis within me, even some mild schizophrenia, if only temporary. The voices have since stopped, and I've been off MXE for 4+ months now, so I'm doing better. At first, when I was doing well in my life, the voices were positive and all-encouraging - speaking of the "love" within us all and "telling me" to go and save the world and meet this girl I had talked to online (I know this sounds incredibly dumb and juvenile). They also told me I was going to help "save the world" from global warming, and I should dedicate my life to drastically raising awareness for global warming, because no single issue is bigger for us as a human race. Then, when my life took a negative turn, I dropped out of college, the voices called me names and harassed me and prevented me from peeing (pure psychosis / schizophrenia, all in my head, but real in effect).

I have since stopped the substance, and am doing better.

But, a word to the wise. If you've had problems with paranoia your whole life, maybe this psychedelic and other psychedelics are not the things to take. I should note I NEVER had a problem on mushrooms (earlier in my life) or even LSD twice, just dissociates (DXM and MXE). I mixed the DXM in with my MXE intake.

Be careful.

Oh, I forgot to mention the most important thing in relation to my psychosis and the effects of the drug, MXE! - I thought I could read other people's thoughts, and they could now read my own. I thought that there was this vast, just beneath-the-surface interconnectedness that existed all along that I alone was beginning to understand, and could use. This all brought on by using MXE. I felt I could read neighbor's thoughts in neighboring houses (far away) and that they were reacting to things I was thinking and we seemed to communicate with each other. We "synnergized" in thought. Also, I felt I alone was "controlling" their thoughts to a degree, that I was the center of attention and the center of everything. I thought they were finally "playing" with me, and I was finally noticing, since I tended to isolate as a person. This was all just me in my house. Wow, I haven't elucidated so well my experiences with this and with MXE before as I am here right now. My psychosis.

Be careful. Now you can say I know someone who developed psychosis from using MXE.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I had a natural proclivity toward paranoia, I should note.

 

[satorishapeshifta]

So glad to finally see a dedicated post to the correlation between mxe and psychosis. I think this drug definitely has the ability to get out of hand quickly due to the dose sensitivity, which unfortuntely a lot of users might not know. I myself learned the hard way. My first (and last) time taking it i bought about 4 points, which was presented to me as ketamine. I shared it between myself and a couple other friends. I started to notice the next day everything seemed a little off. It seemed everyone was making fun of me, and i felt very unsafe. It quickly developed, without me even being aware, into a full-blown psychotic episode. I had a very similar mystical awakening almost of sorts, where i felt i was on a mission to save the world. I talked to god, at some points it even seemed to me that i was god. I was 5150'd after about 4 days. The worst part probably was having to spend a week in this mind state in the mental hospital. That was the most terrifying part. I thought the whole place was a cult and that even the patients were sent there to spy on me, and that almost everyone was in on it. It's been a little over 2 months now, and i am most definitely not "back to normal." I'm having a lot of HPPD, and PTSD, derealization, it goes on an on.... would love to know if anyone has any advice on anything that aids the recovery process. I have quit for the time being, the use of all psychoactive substances, just fyi.

My age: 17
Drug history: Extensive MDMA use, a handful of LSD, mushroom, and cocaine experiences. (please no lectures on my age...)

 

[Sherminator2]

I have definitely experienced psychosis from abusing MXE, but fortunately my friends and girlfriend stopped me from going too far. Also, in my intoxicated state I lost my bag of MXE containing several grams, which sucked at the time but was a very good thing in hindsight. The MXE was making me act completely unlike myself, doing things like lying to my girlfriend, insisting I was sober and hadn't done any when I was obviously completely out of my mind on the drug. I would say things that made no sense, I had no perception of time, and I had bizarre delusional thoughts that seemed incredibly profound at the time but in reality made no sense at all. The only drug that has given me comparable psychotic symptoms was PCP. Both of these drugs are great and fun when used carefully and responsibly, but are incredibly destructive when abused and taken in high doses. High doses of MXE are very comparable to high doses of PCP in my experience. I no longer use either drug due to my inability to use them responsibly. The only dissociative I use now is Ketamine.

 

[any major dude]

MXE & other NMDA antagonists definitely can cause mania, which if severe enough, does fall under the umbrella of psychosis. Ketamine is sometimes even used experimentally to mimic certain symptoms of BPD & SCZ.

Definitely something to look out for if you already have some of these tendencies or a family history of such problems.

Even on relatively mild doses I can sometimes get a touch of megalomania, though since I'm aware of what's going on it can be kinda fun, but for those without insight or on much higher doses I can definitely see how it could become a serious problem.