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Psychedelics are Yin, Dissociatives are Yang

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So I've recently been getting pretty heavy into Taoism (a concept that I'm sure is familiar to most on this board) and lve also been doing a fair amount of mxe lately (didn't do it tonight though)

And it's a thought I had on my last mxe trip that I thought maybe people would like to discuss. Does anyone else agree with my line of thinking?

Everything has a duality. Yin is feminine, yang is masculine. Uppers are yin, downers are yang. Psychedelics are yin, dissociatives are yang. Phenethylamines (like mescaline) are yin, and tryptamines (like dmt and dpt) are yang.

Anyone else agree? Or am I just a crazy drunk person babbling to myself who needs to lay off the mxe? Feel free to discuss/criticize/elaborate/whatever
 
your post makes little sense to me...

Anyone else agree? Or am I just a crazy drunk person babbling to myself who needs to lay off the mxe? Feel free to discuss/criticize/elaborate/whatever
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taking drugs to escape reality, (or as the euphemism often goes...) to get some "insight" and "deep revalations" (yin)
confronting everyday problems and living a responsible life (yang)

Keep them in balance, and you will be fine...
 
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Stimulants are definitely Yang. When I took MPA I felt very masculine and self-assured of myself, aggressive like I never am, and wanted to go out looking for conflict (and higher sex-drive).

Same way, I think an opiate-addicted man becomes more like a girly little kitten who just wants to cuddle and dream (except when he's desperate for some more).
 
I disagree. You said tryptamines are yang, and psychedelics are yin. That can't be true... DMT for example is a psychedelic tryptamine...
 
I disagree, simply because it's likely to be wrong on account of the fact we're talking about subtle biology/chemistry/neurological stuff that we know little about except by parroting what we've read through Eastern or "spiritual" information. That and I think it's a little more complicated than just yin/yang.. we're talking about the body, the brain, the mind, and maybe things beyond the physical.. to reduce it to just yin/yang is very elementary. It could be true though, who knows.
 
Yin and Yang also mean feminine, masculine, positive, negative...I would say psychedelics can be awe inspiring and this is a pretty deep experience. However the negative imprint of the experience is that you immediately resign the ability to say that you can retain that same Awe without the psychedelics. Like how someone who takes a picture of an important occasion. The negative imprint in the image is that you resign the memory to that or those set of pictures of the event. Now here is the trick. To keep Awe, Beauty, and Balance between the ebbs of life without the negative imprint.
 
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I would say that LSD seems Yang compared to the rest. But as SS writes, its a reduction. The drugs are as they are
 
That's not how yin and yang work.

There are also different yins and different yangs in the body, based on organ differentiation. I think I wrote a brief eastern explanation of how I felt ketamine affected the body's qi, in my ketamine regimen for depression.

Yang is active, hot, but it is also lifting. MDMA is very yang because it increases activity and it makes you warm, whereas LSD's yang nature is lifting and warming (at higher doses). Lifting means it transfers all the energy to the upper body and the head. All psychedelics are yang in nature because of the lifting effect, but of all of them, I would say mushrooms are the most yin. They feel heavy, immobilizing, and earth-bound, which are all yin qualities, even though they still have a yang lifting effect.
 
i would say the opposite

+Psychedelics are warm 3-D, -Dissociative are cold black n white

but thats mainly irrelevant if you care about taoism
what would be relevant would be for you to balance whatever you project as positive or negative
and try to stay centered in relation to those projection

imo
 
No drug is yin or yang.. The fuck people?

A drug can't be negative or positive without somebody attributing either one to their experience of it.. All drugs have the potential to be positive and visa versa.

This is just a thread of "I like this one, i don't like that one" (Whether directly or indirectly)

This thread belongs in DC.
 
I must disagree. I find stimulants to be very "Yang", if "Yang" equates with masculine. It definitely made me feel more like a man and gave me a glimpse into the mind of schoolyard bullies, who I'd never understood before.

Not that it made me into one, but as much as is personally possible, it gave me a taste for aggression. Completely foreign to me, really. Ick, stimulants.

And keep in mind, both Amphetamine and Metamphetamine were employed on soldiers during the II and other wars, and they were originally developed for war. It seems obvious it stimulates a warlike nature. Hitler was also obviously on it in many of his speechs, which gave him that rage and super-human quality.

For the drug-naive, simple minds at the time that would have seemed very impressive.

It's well known he used Testosterone as well. No wonder he was crazy.
 
This discussion doesn't make sense tbh. You can't look at it really as positive, negative, in such a sense that one is better than the other. Because if you look at the symbol it cancels itself infinitely.
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For something to be "negative" it must negate a "positive". The "positive" carries the "negative" negation.

So basically a better frame for the title is which do you like more? Which kills less brain cells. Has nothing to do with the Yin-Yang. I'd be more interested in a discussion about the Yin-Yang itself.
 
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Yup I was in agreement. I tried to participate and see if it maybe the conversation migrated to a more fruitful area of the discussion but it is as you said "like, do not like".
 
Well, I was thinking of it as Yin-Feminine and Yang-Masculine, not as positive or negative, and then it can be experienced like that.

Doesn't downers make a man less aggressive?
 
Not sure about that. An opiated-out, benzoed-out guy will usually be pretty at peace. Unless he's freaking out for new supply.
 
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