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Psychedelics and psychosis.

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Hey everyone, I've been diagnosed with psychosis since two years ago, even though I was experiencing symptoms for about 8-12 months before that. Over that last year or so it's gotten a lot better with the help of quetiapine (700mg daily) and psychotherapy like CBT.

Because of my 'condition', I was forced to turn to alcohol and opiates for recreational drug use, weed and psychedelics I didn't dare touch for fear of starting everything off again. (Weed used to make me so paranoid it was unbearable)
My friend has recently gotten hold of some acid, and he said he wants me to come and trip with him like the old times (the good times). Now, I know I shouldn't, and should avoid it like the plague, but a part of me really wants to join him in the hope of having a good time. Not only this but I've been dreaming about tripping on acid quite a few times within the past month or so, which is probably why I want to try it now. (coincidence?)

I'm not going to ask if I should or shouldn't do it, but are my doubts rational or am I just being paranoid?
Has anyone else been in a similar situation?
Halp?
 
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You are not just being paranoid about taking psychedelics when having a psychosis. It is very rational, I think!
I would advise against it. It could turn your psychosis even worse.

Another "problem" is that quetiapine is a potent 5HT-2A antagonist, which means it will block most of the effects from LSD untill some point.
 
I never do psychedelics if there is even an inkling of doubt or reservation. If you're feeling fear about it, then don't do it. Your intuition is giving you the right information, and it's not a product of psychosis. I've said yes to whole groups of friends before, only to say no at the very last minute. It's your body and consciousness, so it's your choice to say no if you want. You can say no and not even have to give an explanation.

In any case, I would not mess with it if you are still being treated for psychosis. It could really complicate things.
 
i'm considered a psychotic (schizoaffective) and i love tripping. i get paranoid from herb though. but i don't buy into my diagnosis, if you think you actually are schizo-whatever maybe don't trip.
 
The real issue here is that with your antipsychotic medication, you're going to have a very weak trip - if you have one at all. I've used Risperidone and Haldol many times to end trips - even 5 hits of LSD will do nothing but give me mild visual disturbances (no euphoria, no real psychedelia) on either of those meds. Quietapine is in the same boat.

Don't do it - just have a martini and a xanax instead.
 
Well I have had temporary psychosis from tripping before and I dont have any psych problems in sober life. Maybe it's kinda like dexies how they have opposite effects for the people who need them and the people who use them recreationally, however their is absolutely no logic behind that point lol
Personally if I had psychosis problems I wouldn't be tripping, but then again I wouldn't be able to make a decision unless I was infact your mind.
Ultimately it's up to you, you are the one who knows your own mind, just bear in mind that psychedelics do often cause psychosis and we all know the stories of Syd Barrett.
 
Unfortunately, there comes a time in our lives when we have accept that some things past can never be again. Given what you've had to go through to improve since your problems started...would you really want to risk losing all that progress in hopes of old-fashioned fun (and it's a crapshoot that you would have an enjoyable experience anyway)?

And the more immediate issue is that on all that queitapine you wouldn't be able to trip, or will have effects diminished to the point of uselessness. Abstaining from your prescribed medicine for the sake of this is highly inadvisable, maybe if the day came when you didn't need it any more (and I'd still say don't trip, even then) you could consider it.

I think you should consider why it is you enjoy/want to take psychedelics. If it's for purely recreational reasons, stick with other drugs that don't carry the psychological risk. You're in therapy, and it seems to be helping from what you've said, so therapeutic tripping isn't pertinent. If for spiritual purposes, it's time to look into alternative (non-drug) avenues of spiritual exploration.
 
Thanks everyone, after reading the thread I've been thinking about it all day at work and have decided not to do it. I don't want to end up like I was before (or worse), even if the acid wouldn't work anyway.

I've got another friend who's going and doesn't really like psychedelics so I guess I'll just play ps3 with him lol. It'll be good to catch up with everyone, even if I'm in a different headspace to them.

Peace out.
 
Ive suffered from temporary psychosis 2 times from psychadelics. Once when i blew about 80 mgs of 2c-i and once when i took 10 double dosed tabs. When i got it from the tabs i was hearing voices for 2 days and i was so paranoid that i thought my parents were interzone agents out to get me.
 
"Rub it on my lips! Mmmmmmmmm"

No, I know how you feel though, especially when you realise it can't be the drugs anymore.
 
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