Psychadelics and 'breaking the barrier'

[blacktusk]

I've been thinking a lot lately about my previous attempts at really 'tripping' and using psychadelics in a productive and meaningful way. Every time i've had psychs (mushrooms, LSD) the experience has always been really hard on me. I've had LSD a total of five times. The first time being the most intense in which I took a full blotter and was GONE. Not gone in a good way either. I was still me, I was just in a world of full blown visuals and confusion. The other times i've always been apprehensive and only ever had a quarter of a blotter or a half, which never induced many visuals and really just gave me a different way of thinking which included a lot of mood swings and paranoia. I've had mushrooms twice. Once in a comfortable setting (with two close friends in the bush by a fire) in which I had a fun but low level trip. The second time I had whilst I was in bali on a holiday with three close friends and I tripped in a way that was indeed beautiful, but brought me no new way of thinking and left me swinging from full on happiness to complete sadness.

I am wondering, could this be due to my current situation in life (not exactly depressing, but not really content either) or could this be due to me never dosing high enough to really go over the edge? I am really keen to try going full blown on some LSD or some mushrooms, but i'm afraid the mood swings and what not will only be amplified and I won't be able to let go leaving me somewhat insane. I've tried letting go on psychadelics somewhat but I've found it impossible as I always have my voice inside my head constantly trying to tell me to calm down or things like that, I can't ever really let go and enjoy the entire experience. I've come out of all of my trips with no new grasp on life other than to really respect the chemicals I look at as a bit of fun. What i'm really seeking though is some enlightenment into my life, some spiritual guiding on where i'm going or what i'm doing with myself. I am a logical person (primarily use my left? side of my brain) and have been told this could be the problem with letting myself go. I really want to have a strong, solo trip to help find myself, but I am too conscious of the fact that it may go extremely wrong and instead of experiencing ego death and such, i'll be stuck with my thought loops and my conscience telling me "It'll all be over soon, you're never going to do this again, you've said it before" etc. As with a lot of my LSD experiences, the best part of them has been the end. The utter relief for it to finally be over. I know this shouldn't be the best part, which is why I really want to try blowing my mind into a dimension where I don't know where the end is, or even what the end is. I want to go on a journey, one that doesn't revolve around listening to psytrance and sitting with mates doing things to try and make us 'trip' more. I have no friends that would be suitable for a sober trip sitter as they're all very judgemental and don't understand the whole spiritual side to psychadelics and see them solely as party drugs.

I guess i'm asking should I wait 'til later in life or should I just throw myself full frontal into it and see what happens? Is questioning the whole thing my real problem?

 

[TearItDown]

You seem to not really enjoy the trips how you want, is it out of place on the psychs. forum to suggest some good molly? It'll be great with some lucy, or great by itself.

 

[blacktusk]

Haha i've had A LOT of MDMA in my time, took it around 2 years before I even thought of trying LSD. I've always wondered about candyflipping to help me stay happy whilst i'm tripping out, but from reading if you're inexperienced with LSD it might not be a good idea. I like to research things a lot before I go doing them, and these days i'm very conscious of my health (i'm only 18 and already have several health problems). I was hoping I could reach my spiritual destination without having to resort to polydrug use. I smoked cannabis a few times whilst on LSD and once on the mushrooms but it always seemed to increase the anxiety and I read that it probably would so I refrained. I don't smoke it at all anymore so its not really a problem.

 

[TearItDown]

Cannabis does have a trend of increasing anxiety. Candyflipping is fun, even if you haven't done a lot of LSD. I have honestly done a lot more mdma than lsd, and combining the two felt good. It felt right. I still enjoy rolling more, but candyflipping was great. I always hear about people having terrible anxiety when they smoke cannabis and my heart sinks. I love it while I'm tripping. I love smoking in general, but some nice green goes a long way. Some substances just have a lot of synergy. Molly, lucy, and mary jane have wonderful synergy together.

 

[That-Strange-Guy]

*You really need to buckle up your seat-belt and be prepared when you first try psychs as you know.

*To handle such drugs your mind really has to be mentally prepared, I always suggest a tripping partner.

*Other people on the same level as you brings good vibes.

*Tripping alone will make your more prone to thought loops and mood swings which may result in a bad trip.

*To be honest after a certain dose of LSD [For me it is 3-4 hits of good blotter] you don't get any higher and taking any more than this just prolongs the trip. But other drugs are veryyyy different. Never underestimate a drug or get cocky on psychs.

*A long intense trip is not always a good thing.

*Plan your trip well in advance if you don't have a tightly knitted bond with the drug.

*Make sure you are in a good mood! You should never take psychs if you are having an off day or if you are feeling shitty, this may cause an anxiety attack.

*Make sure you have a secure environment: no sudden unwanted surprises or unfortunate events.

*Make sure you have enough things to do for your whole trip without feeling trapped.

*Make sure you won't have to sleep during the trip or do anything early the next day.

*Be wise about what you eat: Sometimes you will feel really hungry but different textures will kill your appetite, make sure to keep hydrated and nourished though.

*Keep it a positive thing: You took this drug to have fun so have fun, be giddy and silly.

*Don't try to fight the trip, just go with the flow. You will come down, don't worry or stress.

*If you do have a bad trip just remember it happens to everyone, Sometimes a hug or change in atmosphere can pull you out of a bad trip or thought-loops.

If you do all of the above you can surely take higher doses with little to no problems. I hope you can find your breakthrough your looking for.

=]

Happy tripping

 

[Lachlan]

While setting is a very important thing, The mind is as well. If you're uneasy about your environment, upset or was upset recently or whatever that may be spinning around your head that isnt a positive thought, then I'd be very careful about dosing.

I tend to make sure that I'm in a pretty positive mindset, though then again I'm always in a good mood when psychedelics are involved. %)

Cheers and good tripping!

 

[Tikhil]

Cannabis does have a trend of increasing anxiety. Candyflipping is fun, even if you haven't done a lot of LSD. I have honestly done a lot more mdma than lsd, and combining the two felt good. It felt right. I still enjoy rolling more, but candyflipping was great. I always hear about people having terrible anxiety when they smoke cannabis and my heart sinks. I love it while I'm tripping. I love smoking in general, but some nice green goes a long way. Some substances just have a lot of synergy. Molly, lucy, and mary jane have wonderful synergy together.

As I said to tear it down before he flipped, Candy flipping is like LSD with training wheels. The LSD makes you trip and the MDMA ensures you feel safe and happy. I recommend it if you already roll and want to try higher does LSD.

 

[*drug my (b)rain*]

a good way to truly trip,is to become a vegan for like 3 days before you trip,just eat fruits and veggies pasta rice whatever,just dont eat meat,cheese,any dairy ,and try to stay away from protine,ul clean ur body out alot more than it would be if u just ate them after a steak dinner,meat stays in ur colon for 3 days apparently,so once u rid all that stuff outa you,the psychedelics have alot more room to play,resulting in ur body feeling better ,and the confusion will be alot less intense,i konw im going to get 'flamed' and whatnot i dont really care ,im just saying when i was a vegan,id have so much more intense and strong trips(even weed was better)