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Opioids PST - Final confirmations after research

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blight12

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Hey all,

Done a ton of research here and elsewhere on poppy seed tea and just want to confirm some final things before proceeding to obtain them and make the tea:

1. Which seeds would likely be best for PST? Those sold for growing or for cooking?

I would think growing would be best since those for cooking are washed? But then i know those for growing are not recommended for consumption since they are pretreated chemically?

2. What does washed mean and what does pretreated chemically mean? Same thing or not?

3. What type of store or purchasing situation has gotten you the best seeds? For example, online, supermarket, gardening nursery etc?

3. With regards to the different and unknown potency risks my idea is to buy a lot in bulk, mix them all up properly if they arrive in different packets and then test PST carefully to find the correct dosage. I should be able to then assume the remaining bulk amount is likely the same potency when making further tea from the same purchase.

They new purchases are once again treated to the same careful process as per above? What are your thoughts?

4. Any other risks you think is necessary to mention?

Thanks.
 
The main risks with poppy seeds is that you never know their potency, and it varies from batch to batch. I have only use poppy pods so I cannot comment on which poppy seeds to get.
 
do not buy the ones for growing; if you did your research youd have known that these cost much more than food grade seeds. you want dark seeds with a deep earthy smell and they are for baking; get them in bulk and always test a new order slowly and titrate up. Its a shitty habit to have btw.

all seeds are washed, some more than others, if they are chemically treated do not eat them obviously. I have trouble believing you did any research on this.
 
Me and a buddy of mine made some seed tea years ago. I remember i thought i felt a little bit from it, and he said he felt nothing. It probably didn't do anything for me either. I had taken some hydrocodone that day, not a big dose, but enough to give me a buzz, and i probably just felt that and not the tea.

I have no idea what seeds you would have to buy. TBH i doubt you'll have much luck with this, but you can try if you'd like....
 
RobotRipping said:
do not buy the ones for growing; if you did your research youd have known that these cost much more than food grade seeds. you want dark seeds with a deep earthy smell and they are for baking; get them in bulk and always test a new order slowly and titrate up. Its a shitty habit to have btw.

all seeds are washed, some more than others, if they are chemically treated do not eat them obviously. I have trouble believing you did any research on this.
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Thanks. Yeah I just need to replace Kratom with something since its not really working so well anymore. I only do once a week. I tried Heroin to replace the Kratom but expensive and an effort to get and risky. PST sounds like great alternative for a weekly treat like I do it currently.
 
PST will give you as many problems as any other real opiate will, except it costs less and is legal. It's like being on a shitty methadone. Don't bother with it, i did it for 9 months or so and quit and i love opiates, so that's gotta tell you something. Stick to kratom, it's great and never replace heroin for kratom, that is ridiculous.
 
Do not get seeds found in supermarkets as they do not work. Literally no effect after a 1.5kg wash.

The best seeds to get are the ones in Indian/Middle Eastern type shops, in bulk with least amount of advertised and expensive type packaging. If you get lucky, you might find some that can get you an "opiate like feel", but it will be nothing like euphoria you experience from pharma grade stuff. So what you are looking for is a long lasting, dirty/speedy type opiate feel, and you will know that they have worked.

For someone that literally LOVES opiates the high will suffice, as the price of the real deal opiates is pretty high (both $money wise and safety/street skills). So if you really like opiates to the point of being happy with only a glow, you may find a replacement for your kratom.

Only black/blue seeds will cause an effect, do not get white or anything else that is not black or/and blue.

I can not comment on your method of staying safe a this stuff is never safe and I do not recommend messing around with opiates.
 
RobotRipping said:
PST will give you as many problems as any other real opiate will, except it costs less and is legal. It's like being on a shitty methadone. Don't bother with it, i did it for 9 months or so and quit and i love opiates, so that's gotta tell you something. Stick to kratom, it's great and never replace heroin for kratom, that is ridiculous.
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I might get the strong Kratom extracts then. Are those better? The only problem is the normal stuff frustrates me because it always feels like its just shy of where its supposed to be (even at like 30g).
And I never get a nod, even from the strong extracts and even if i dose myself sick.

Dunno, I feel my once in a whole treat should be some good shit or why then take the risk.
I guess I will just test and see.

Also being an real opiate noob (only tried H in really small dosages twice to be like super safe) so perhaps the PST might be decent for me if im not comparing to real opiates and higher doses? What do you think?
 
PST is a real opiate; it also has some side effects the pharms don't. If you're chasing a high, you're looking for trouble. You will rarely nod on PST, it's just too stimulating, same for kratom. It is strong though and a true opiate high but is it really worth the risk of taking it and ending up dependent on it? i'd stick with kratom, not extracts either, stop chasing that high, kratom is great at what it does, it's not a shot of dilaudid or anything.
 
Ok. I've been using PST for years and have finally found which places have the best seeds and prices. Buy in bulk, they should smell very earthy, and be very inexpensive. Many different places sell them, it took me years to find out how to get the best effect from this. It's basically morphine, codeine, thebaine, ect... for opiate dependents and those with tolerance, your mileage may vary and to some it's not worth the hassle. But to me, looking over my shoulder and waiting to get arrested for my fix isn't worth the hassle of jail, now that I've experienced it. I'm an earthy kind of guy though and I like not having to cop on the streets and take the risks that I used to. It's just not worth it to me, don't get me wrong, pst is no heroin (a high maintenance, glamorous bad bitch) poppy seed tea is more like her hippy chick sister that is happy with what she has and who doesn't wear a lot of makeup because she's fine just the way she is :)

namaste
 
^Word!

I have used PST over the last 8 years or so. I go months without thinking about it, then sometimes have a tea 2-3 times a week for a few weeks (yes, this can put you into WD, though for me, with the time I spend "bingeing" it isn't too bad. Anxious, cravings)

If you are buying the right seeds, then you should be able to catch a nod (I still do sometimes from 1.5lbs. of bulk barn seeds)

I make the tea with my father often. I always tell him to just take shot glasses full of the stuff over the course of an hour or so. He NEVER does, he just pounds the whole glass of tea as I tell him "yeah, what we just bought was legal, once we mixed it in a bottle and filtered it, we were guilty of production (of opiates! Think how bad that is) and these seeds are unregulated, they could have next to no natural alkaloids, or it could have, but they got washed, or, we could have been taking washed seeds this whole time, and this time we are getting unwashed seeds = you dead" He never seems to understand that something from the bulk store is not something that has any kinds of regulations for what we are doing with it. The bulk store wouldn't think anything of it, or get any repercussions for his death.

Still, after knowing all of this, I still drink the tea and realize that I am playing russian roulette every time. Be careful, don't get your head in the clouds about this being a cheap, legal and safe/natural opiate. After a few weeks, it is no longer cheap, you will be spending $15 for each dose, minimum. Making this tea is NOT legal. If you were found walking around with a bottle of it, and the police found out what it was, you would certainly be charged with possession, possibly with production (ie. they think you are making a tea, crashing out the morphine then converting it to heroin to sell to their kiddies... It is safe to say this charge would be a big deal and quite the shame) I used to walk around with a tea all the time in high school. I am glad it is a relatively unknown thing or else I would have dealt with the charges I just spoke of. This is not a safe alternative to other opiates, it is incredibly risky, sometimes I get REALLY high, sometimes I get NOTHING.
 
teological said:
Do not get seeds found in supermarkets as they do not work. Literally no effect after a 1.5kg wash.

The best seeds to get are the ones in Indian/Middle Eastern type shops, in bulk with least amount of advertised and expensive type packaging. If you get lucky, you might find some that can get you an "opiate like feel", but it will be nothing like euphoria you experience from pharma grade stuff. So what you are looking for is a long lasting, dirty/speedy type opiate feel, and you will know that they have worked.

For someone that literally LOVES opiates the high will suffice, as the price of the real deal opiates is pretty high (both $money wise and safety/street skills). So if you really like opiates to the point of being happy with only a glow, you may find a replacement for your kratom.

Only black/blue seeds will cause an effect, do not get white or anything else that is not black or/and blue.

I can not comment on your method of staying safe a this stuff is never safe and I do not recommend messing around with opiates.
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1) dirty feeling? Moostly morphine and codeine are the ones taking effect, these come in pharm versions. In fact most people, myself included, enjoy a cocktail like opium or tar heroin rather than just a single opiate
2)literally love opiates? Versus just figuratively loving them?
3) white poppy seeds?
4) why is it "never" safe? Any opiate can be said to be unsafe, especially non-pharm like heroin etc
5) why is opium residue not a real opiate? Morphine and codeine thebaine etc are fake?
 
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i can tell you from experience that a strong dose of PST can hit you hard like 8mg of hydromorphone snorted, except it lasts 16 hours, without tolerance of course.

i hate people who shit on PST; if you think it's so weak, try withdrawing from it, one of the worst opiate withdrawals ive had.
 
It's absolutely powerful, also worth noting is that where I live, if you find a brand that has working seeds, and check the pack's serie number - any other pack with that serie number would work the same strenght. Most people are taking their 1st dose in range of 250g to 500g, not any more, this won't kill you if you start that low.

make sure to have some antihistamines, even after 50mg diphenhydramine I'd get some itches after 700-1000g tea. Without antihistamines it's very annoying.
 
1) Well in my experience it does have a dirty feeling to it no doubt. Sort of speedy, coupled with low euphoria IME paying respect to pharma grade products. It just ends up feeling a little dirty. I think the thebaine may play a large role (yeah I know oxy and all that are derived from that). Also, drinking it and holding it down may add to that effect in a sublte manner.
2)Well what I meant by literally is "100% DOC nothing else will do" type attraction. For me an opiate glow is better thatn a "high" from anything else.
3) Yes, there are white poppy seeds.
4) Seeds, dose wise is never safe. My response was to the method the OP used, and I personally do want to condone it.
5) Opium residue is a real opiate.
 
sometimes i'd prefer PST over pharms, it lasts longer, keeps me out of withdrawals longer and is still as euphoric. I also love that heavy high with the stimulation. I think you have been using shitty seeds.
 
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