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Psilocybin vs. 25C-NBOMe?

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So the only drug I've taken thats more of a "real" psychedelic (compared to cannnabis) has been 25C-NBOMe, but I'm going to be trying Psyilocybin for the first time soon and am curious how its effects compare to 25C-NBOMe, since 2C-C is the only related experience. I took the 2C-C because it was supposedly similar to LSD, but my question is whats the difference between Psilocybin and 25C-NBOMe? Is a Psyilocybin trip relateable at all to a 2C-C trip? I took a very large amount of 2C-C, around 1000-1200 micrograms and it wasn't very comfortable. The breathing, patterns and intensity was too much and I felt like I was going insane, had ego-loss, at the peak almost an out of body experience, and overall it felt incredibly artificial. I'm just hoping that Psylocybin will feel more more natural and organic compared to a synthetic chemical. Thanks for the help.
 
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i don't know how to describe the difference in effects (other than that they're similar) as the psychedelic experience is difficult to describe but me and my crew pretty much all prefer 25c. psyilocybin can get a little emotionally intense whereas 25c is a little more of a party thing/less deep.
 
Psilocybin and 25c are similar in that they are both psychedelic, but nothing alike in my opinion. You will find psilocybin to be much more of a true and full experience, feeling very natural in comparison to 25c. Mushrooms can get extremely intense mentally, but generally remain benign on the body because they are tryptamine psychedelics unlike the phenethylamine derivatives you're used to. Ultimately, i think you will find the mushroom experience to beat the 25c experience with a stick, and will feel incredibly natural, safe, and healthy in comparison to 25c. Just know that mentally, they are much more taxing and will really tear back the folds of reality, but that is what is generally sought out when doing psychedelics. If I wanted a party drug, i would stick to a cathionone or amphetamine derivative. 25c has no use for me.

Edit - For me, i am much more interested in testing compounds like 5-meo-mipt, which is said to have little to no visual component, yet is still strongly psychedelic. That sounds ideal to me, much unlike 25c which is a hollow, visual inducing drug.
 
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ya for a true life-changing type experience mushrooms are better but if you just want pretty colors and all that 25c shits on mushrooms as there's very little mindfuck.
 
Also 2c-c IS NOT THE SAME as 25c-NBOMe. The NBOMes are analogues of the 2c-x family, and TOTALLY different beasts.
 
mushrooms are definatley more hardcore. but it all depends on the dose, set & setting
 
Well 25c felt very toxic and harsh when I tried it. Not so much visuals in the classic sense as, but more like my 5-ht network being hijacked and fucked in the ass.

Psilocybin is very safe in comparison IMO, and doesn't feel nearly as toxic, if at all. It can be quite intense emotionally, but I have always felt it was a healthy introspective sort of intensity.
 
Yeah, it's like one of those "this is your brain on drugs" commercials - the egg gets smashed. That's 25C. Frying is the best way to put it. Psilocybin is smart, and will only be intense in areas where you've got it coming.
 
From what I remember a normal 25C-NBOMe dose compared to a typical LSD dose (about 100 mcg) requires roughly 300 mcg to get similar effects, and I took about four times that. I took a very strong dose of 25C-NBOMe and was inexperienced which I think had a direct impact on the trip. I insufflated the powder in water and was hit with the effects like a fucking train in a matter of minutes. It felt incredibly artificial, like I was thinking crazy (felt like I was crazy), being incoherent, thinking incredibly fast (not in a good way) but its difficult to describe. It just wasn't enjoyable for me, I thought I might be stuck that way forever. "Frying" is definitely a helpful word though. Now I truly see how words are very limited means of trying to convey much more vivid, real experiences.

With the mushrooms I'm going to take a less than average dose. I would rather spend the time adjusting to the effects and get a better feel for it rather than do what I did with the 25C-NBOMe and take a shitload. Psychologically I no longer enjoy lab made chemicals, they just lost their appeal. It isn't worth the risk of being a guinea pig to me. I'd rather ingest more well-documented, safe, natural substances than something made synthetically. Thats just me though.

The main thing is I'm hoping mushrooms feel more natural, and since they take more time to kick in it should allow me to better ease into the trip. From what everyones indicated so far this seems to be the case.
 
The main thing is to take it in a very comfortable place. Psilocybin will add endless depth to the reality that you experience, and the way you feel about your surroundings will amplify. Usually on mushrooms my thoughts become much more serene and well defined, and they manifest into my mind in countless ways so that any aspect can just consume me, and the drug forces me to consider my thoughts with a burning passion. For me, 25c is completely void of this effect.

One difference in dosing though, is that unlike 25c which offers the same effects, just stronger depending on dosage, with psilocybin you have to hit a sweet spot in order to breakthrough into the actual psychedelic realm, if that doesn't happen it may very well resemble a 25c experience. Dose too low, and you will just come up and then come down, all peripheral with no psychedelic plateau. I normally recommend 3.5g of cubensis for first timers. I would call that the average psychedelic experience.
 
...with 1000s of years of testing behind it and not one recorded death yet....id say that makes it a clear winner....its nice to know even if it feels like you're dying on some level you will be sure that you're not
 
25C might be like "butter flavor" where psilocybin shrooms are "butter".

I know that analogy is wrong, but choose butter if you can.
 
Would like to add that mushrooms in my experience are much less forgiving than the other major psychedelics I have tried.

However a true psychedelic will show you what you NEED to see, which can be vastly different from what you WANT to see. This should be foremost in your mind for any proper tryptamine psychedelic in my humble opinion.

Whereas phenylethylamines such as 25C are known more as party drugs, which implies may be closer for experiences one might WANT to partake in, rather than NEED. Note that I didn't really really find 25C neutral on the mind. My second batch which is pure white seems way stronger than the first, and definitely fragments the mental machinary.
 
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Would like to add that mushrooms in my experience are much less forgiving than the other major psychedelics I have tried.
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Not sure what you mean there - physically they're incredibly forgiving because they don't kill you like 25cnbome - even if you dose yourself up to the eyeballs.

If you mean they're hard emotionally then I think that's more down to the individual than the mushrooms. I find mushrooms (and oral DMT) the most forgiving drugs on earth.
 
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I've actually ordered 30 grams of scletoria, aka magic truffles and from what I understand they are very similar compared to mushrooms, containing psilocybin and psilocin. The specific type I ordered is "psilocybe hollandia," they are supposedly twice as potent as the average truffle. A typical dose for truffles is usually the entire package (10-15 grams), but since even the website I ordered them from says "regular dosage is 7.5 grams, only experienced users take full 15 grams" I'm thinking I should take half of that (3.75 grams) the first hour, and if I want to trip harder take the other dose. This sound about right?
 
Having done both I'd say each one has it's own niche, and are better for different things. I mostly prefer the mushrooms, for me they are much more visual at high doses, and are extremely interesting just on their own. Like I know this sounds weird, but I've come to only really like doing mushrooms alone in darkness, I wouldn't say "spiritually" because that's not really my thing, but it's just so overwhelming to me. 25 C on the other hand was more of a stimulant-esque drug I enjoyed doing with my friends that had some nice patterning and trails at high doses but isn't all that interesting by itself, like in order to have a good time I'd want to be doing something or be with someone. Hope that helps a bit.
 
Sclerotica are exactly the same as mushrooms because they have the same active - psilocybin.

They are however class A so if you're ordering them from Holland thinking they're "legal because they're sclerotica" then you can expect a battering ram through the door if they're intercepted.
 
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