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Psilocybe semilanceata in Melbourne

seriously dude, the black gills are adding to my inky caps theory, get a sample of them and go to teh hospital. Im dead serious. you may be fine, sure. But you are risking death. People have eaten mushroosm then dropped dead a week later from total kidney (liver?) failure.

If they looked a lot like somethign that means NOTHING, you have 100 percent DEFINITELY confirmed the fact that they are NOT psilocybe semilanceata. NO psilocybe genus has black gills. In general, black gills are NOT a good thing. If you do not go to the hospital and get some tests run, you are risking death.

This entire thread has made that abundantly clear, you can assume it won't happen to you, and maybe it wont. But many peopel have died this way. It is not hype. You may die. Go to hospital with a sample of what you ate.

Ignore this clear as day advice at your own peril and stop trying to convince yourself they are psilocybes, they are not, it is impossible. They have black gills and did not bruise blue, you have eaten a random mushroom and may need treatment
 
Dude I ain't going to the hospital unless I know they're bad. If I was suffering acute hepatic necrosis I would have yellow fingernails and be a lot more sick than I am (I feel perfectly fine).

What are the deadly type of mushrooms that look similar in Melbourne if anyone knows? They don't look like those Gallerina (sp?) or something as nasty as that do they? I'll go looking for more now and get a sample though. (in saying similar I'm referring to the links I posted of the liberty caps but less spiked at the top).

Oh and I did a search on inky cap, and nah they looked nothing like that.
 
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Ewok said:
Yea I feel fine. Just got bad heartburn for like 12 hrs afterwards and couldnt eat or drink for about 14hrs cause of nausea and then suddenly I'm all good.

Im not saying that what you ate was poisonous, but typical symptoms of mushroom poisoning is nausea for around 12-16 hours then you go into false remission where symptoms disappear. In the meantime your liver is basically liquifying and the symptoms return 1-2 days however much more severe. Get a photo of them and we may be able to help you.
 
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from what cyberdyne and immortal tek have said it seems dodgey,

dude read up on mushroom poisening and try to send some photos,

mushrooms arent a game they have killed people before. people who probabaly thought they were invincable. Going arond eating random mushrooms is one of the most stupidest and dangerous things you could do when it comes to chasing a high.

u should go the doctor, get checked out, not like u will get in trouble or anything.
 
you need to post a proper identification along shroomery guidelines as well....

You are also best to post that description ON the shroomery with details of the fact that you have already eaten the mushroom, are aware of the potential consequences, but were hoping to get some info on the possible strain of mushroom before going to hospital....there are some very skilled IDers on there, but check out the comments on anybody who seems to authoritavely know b4 goign with their judgment...somebdy like mjshroomer or bluemeanie should be able to give you a definitive classification
 
It shits me that they're are many ppl who will eat psychedelic mushrooms without ever knowing anything about the genus or what family its from, without ever seeing a pic; and pick the correct shroom and have a great trip - then they always know which one to pick, but still have no idea whats species it is, whilste also believing bullshit shroom myths like strychnine.

Edit: Ewoks a lier!
 
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Not really. If I OD'd I would tell people that it was because I was looking for a nice mushroom to go with my stir-fry.
 
We do not do mushroom ID's here at bluelight. We will offer free advice and tell you to go see a doctor because you have done something stupid but do not persist with the ID request.

You've found the shroomery so use that resource.
 
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Not really. If I OD'd I would tell people that it was because I was looking for a nice mushroom to go with my stir-fry.


And if you died because they were poisonous?? Then you would reinforce the government's view...
 
OK I think I might know what ewok may have found (see attached). This pic was taken at my local park recently (I'm in Melbourne too). They look cute but not magic. When I was in the park yesterday, there were more, with some of the older ones going black in the ground. Ewok - are these what you found? Hospital might still be a good idea...
 

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they're growing on bark, he says his were growing on grass...unlikely they grow on two different substrata...don't bother mate, identification is almost impossible w/o detailed description
 
^these ones are on grass/dirt - sorry for the shitty phone pic. I still think it's a possible match - "not quite as pointy..." I guess I'm just trying to add weight to the suggestion that he might have got his ID wrong, and that he should seek medical help.
 
Hey everyone, yeah I'm feeling fine, no nausea what-so-ever. Someone at the shroomery said they thought it was either panaeoleus/paneaolina and the pics on the internet of them look very similar. The only problem is that these aren't well-known to be poisonous and some people say that they can even be magical which is a well needed irony.

Then again I've read some pages that describe very significant stomach upset and stuff despite this especially when eaten without any attempt at drying (which I didn't do). The symptoms that I had were most surely some form of hepatic poisoning since I know the feeling from a very serious paracetamol overdose a couple of years and it was close to identical. Secondly I had the classic 2 day wait before symptoms came back.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that there are too many phenotypes differing so little in the shroom kingdom to be certain that what youre eating won't nail you (unless you're really experienced). I'm gonna stick to chems made in clandestine labs in Amsterdam instead, much safer. (I'm only half joking =D )

Peace and thanks for everyones help.
 
Yeh good on ya, /generic chide post lesson learnt

To add something, you can pretty much 100 percent trust GreatOnes ID's, the species of Panaeolus which is active in Australia/NZ is panaeolus cyanescens which are also often called copelandia cyanescens. Ive personally always found these extremely difficult to come by, particularly in dosable quantity, but they are not slightly active. As far as Im aware they have the highest psilocybin content of any known active...stand to be corrected on that one though...

The 'slightly' active mushroom your possibly thinking of is gymnipolus, which really really really isnt worth it. Be really careful when reading literature on northern hemisphere mushrooms as theres very little similarities.
 
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Cyberdyne said:
Yeh good on ya, /generic chide post lesson learnt

To add something, you can pretty much 100 percent trust GreatOnes ID's, the species of Panaeolus which is active in Australia/NZ is panaeolus cyanescens which are also often called copelandia cyanescens. Ive personally always found these extremely difficult to come by, particularly in dosable quantity, but they are not slightly active. As far as Im aware they have the highest psilocybin content of any known active...stand to be corrected on that one though...

The 'slightly' active mushroom your possibly thinking of is gymnipolus, which really really really isnt worth it. Be really careful when reading literature on northern hemisphere mushrooms as theres very little similarities.

As far as i know Psilocybe Cyanescens is the most potent in the world, followed closely by Psilocybe Azurescens. This is why Victoria's main magic mushroom, P. Subaeruginosa is so potent because they are very closely related.

To Ewok, if you said you felt some sort of tripped out effect, my guess would be Panaeolina Foenisecci. There has been alot of debate over the activity of this species and it does cause stomach upset for alot of people.

Just my opinion, i could very well be wrong.:p
 
must be me confusing the psilocybe with panaoelus :D

Wait...fuck me...are these not a subset of psilocybe subaeroginosa??? Cos these are EVERYWHERE in my neighbourhood...i came into contact with literally hundreds of those mother fuckers this season and was just under the impression that they were just strong subs that look a little funny...would explain the difference b/w thse and the ones in different patches i frequent

This is very cool...I have two patches of hte strongest hallucinogenic mushroom known to man growing on my street...
 
Nah you wont find Azures and Cyans in Australia. They dont grow here. Ive sometimes thought the same thing because subs and cyans/azures look so similar but i have been told by several noteworthy people (from the shroomery) that they do not grow here.
 
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