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pros and cons of smoking joints all day

pros:
what ever you're doin at the moment will be fuckin awesome
things dont bother you as much

cons:
the inevitable weed nap
 
PRO OR CON all the time spent rolling. If you enjoy rolling, its not so bad, but making a lot a day would get tedious.

Pro Extreme portability. I like to make them with tobacco near the end, and put inside a hallow pen. Great thing to carry for urban smoking.

Con Joints all day? thats a little excessive / expensive. I leave that to when I have the excuse that I need to be discreet, or a friend or two is smoking and we want to do it that way for style.

Pro Style. All the extra smoke from the paper to slowly exhale or make rings with or whatever. Actually all the extra smoke kind of sucks
 
matterofperception said:
Im taking your post seriously so if you were joking forgive me. Do you mean the pros and cons of ingesting marijauna through solely joints or the pros and cons of smoking marijauna daily? ill answer both
1. Pros of exclusivly smoking joint
- convienent and can be big or small
-more descrete than most other methods
-doesn't leave much waste
Cons
-makes your fingers smell like shit
-joints are pretty wasteful
-smoking anything is bad for your lungs
2. Pros of being high all day
-generally alleviates boredom
-i have personally noticed an anti-depresent effect from smoking daily but some people it makes more depressed
-you will definatly have a healthy appetite
cons
-Will lead to memory problems
-has the strong possibilty of giving you some serious anxiety and social problems
-costs a shitload to maintain
-tolerance beomes a major issue
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what he said
 
ItchyRichy said:
cons: its not a blunt
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Annnndddd /thread.


Ranunky, what does that study have to do with ingestion of cannabis through different forms? I read absolutely nothing with data from joints, bongs, or water bongs. Even then, the tested material was wack and not the "norm" (a mean 19% thc in each plant with outliers above the 30%s? Jesus!)

The second study explicity states:

The study does not rule out the possibility that water pipes could have other benefits, such as filtering out noxious gases
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So I'm not sure how you concluded
unfiltered joints are the cleanest way to smoke.
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rolling up is one of my favorite things to do, and i'm good at it.

a lot of people enjoy finely rolled joints, i know i do.
 
Originally Posted by The Chemist:

rolling up is one of my favorite things to do, and i'm good at it.

a lot of people enjoy finely rolled joints, i know i do.
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I am hit and miss at rolling up. It is a con when you've rolled a poor spliff.

On the other hand, smoking joints is personally my fav way to smoke week.... so if its a good one.... awesome!
 
yeah my friends enjoy it, plus it kills some time. one time i rolled a spliff that lasted 37 minutes.
 
chainer3k said:
Annnndddd /thread.


Ranunky, what does that study have to do with ingestion of cannabis through different forms? I read absolutely nothing with data from joints, bongs, or water bongs. Even then, the tested material was wack and not the "norm" (a mean 19% thc in each plant with outliers above the 30%s? Jesus!)

The second study explicity states:



So I'm not sure how you concluded
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I'm just going by the THC/tar ratio.

Surprisingly, the unfiltered joint outperformed all devices except the vaporizers, with a ratio of about 1 part cannabinoids to 13 parts tar. This disturbingly poor ratio may be explained by the low potency of the NIDA-supplied marijuana used in the study, which was around 2.3%.

Disappointingly, waterpipes performed uniformly worse than the unfiltered joint. The least bad waterpipe, the bong, produced 30% more tar per cannabinoids than the unfiltered joint. Ironically, the pipe with the electric mixer scored by far the worst of any device. This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than other, noxious tars.

Like the waterpipes, the cigarette filter also performed worse than the unfiltered joint, by about 30%. Researchers speculate this is because cannabinoids are exceptionally sticky and adhere to other solids. Hence, any filtration system that picks up particulates is likely also to screen out cannabinoids.
 
ranunky said:
Hence, any filtration system that picks up particulates is likely also to screen out cannabinoids.
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Ah I see the point. Theoretically, you could conclude that because the ratio is lower from THC:tar in joints it might be healthier. I understand the ratio to tar is lower but in reality is tar the only health concern? To be honest, these marijuana studies usually have very little external validity despite having a very high internal one... But I'm sure you don't need me telling you that. I just didn't see anything in the first study that would produce any startling findings. The finding that filtration takes out more THC than tar is completely rational, but I'm not sure if the conclusion should necessarily be smoking without filtration is "best" for health.

Than again, I smoke mostly blunts so I couldn't care less personally, I just found it interesting.
 
Pros:
- can moderate your dosage (not taking one huge hit all at once)
- easy to dispose
- portable
- pleasant mild more energetic high high
- easy to share
- flavoured papers (Not sure why you wouldnt like the taste of weed)

Con:
- uses up alot of weed
- high not intense enough for some (I rather like it)
- takes time to roll
- harsher smoke
- high isnt as overwhelming
- more carcinogenic
- wasted smoke from the end of the joint/blunt
 
chainer3k said:
The finding that filtration takes out more THC than tar is completely rational, but I'm not sure if the conclusion should necessarily be smoking without filtration is "best" for health.
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That is definitely what the conclusion should be. If you get less of a dose of THC because of the filtration, you're going to end up smoking an extra hit and getting even more tar in total than you would without filtration. Most people smoke until they reach the level of high they want...
 
Coolio said:
That is definitely what the conclusion should be. If you get less of a dose of THC because of the filtration, you're going to end up smoking an extra hit and getting even more tar in total than you would without filtration. Most people smoke until they reach the level of high they want...
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Gesh did you guys read this thing?

Nonetheless, it is still premature to judge that waterpipes are actually unhealthful, since they may filter out other, non-solid smoke toxins occurring in the gas phase of the smoke, which was not analyzed in the study. Noxious gases known to occur in marijuana smoke include hydrogen cyanide, which incapacitates the lung's defensive cilia; volatile phenols, which contribute to the harshness of the taste; aldehydes, which promote cancer; and carbon monoxide, a known risk factor in heart disease
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I may have missed it, but where the hell did they conclude that the amount of THC OR tar absorbed by water would make so much of a difference as to warrant a second hit vs. an unfiltered system? I don't see any kind of numbers that pop out like that, only ratios that don't really have much validity outside of a research lab.

The only conclusion I could logically come to from the study was

the easiest way for most smokers to avoid harmful smoke toxins may be simply to smoke stronger marijuana
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AKA less smoke in your lungs = better for you. No shit.

And as for efficiency, they noted the water pipe above the unfiltered joint. But than again, this is a flippin' study by NORML, not some third party study with no agenda.
 
ever since i made a light bulb vaporizer i never went back. light bulb ur buds then u can even reuse it and roll joints with it since it still has thc left. most efficient way to smoke
 
chainer3k said:
I may have missed it, but where the hell did they conclude that the amount of THC OR tar absorbed by water would make so much of a difference as to warrant a second hit vs. an unfiltered system?
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Even 5% difference can be enough to warrant another hit. Depends on how high your tolerance is. Medical marijuana patients and chronic stoners tend to have very high tolerances.
 
pros - covenyent, easly hidden, leves you with all those roches, feel like cheech and chong , good for parties, good for car rides

cons- waste bud, get resin all over ur fingers, dont get as high , chest pain, smelly roches ,
 
I love joints so much.

So:
pros - joints are awesome, you will feel like you're floating on a cloud until you fall asleep, might get a lil' burned out at night but that's perfect for going to sleep anyway
cons - high tolerance, might have some chest pain, plus some would see it as a waste of weed to smoke that much in a day

Joints kick butt, they are a little inefficient, especially if the weed is really dry, but you can minimize this. Just take very light puffs and I've found it's about as efficient as a bowl.

I hate fucking around with bowls and bongs, having to relight and stir and it's all gone so quick . . . nothing like a nice joint though, I can just sit back, relax, smoke it slow or quick whatever I feel like, take a couple of mouth puffs to enjoy the taste, it's like an art-form y'know? NOt like bowls and bongs where I almost feel like a junkie, just driving the drug in me as efficiently as possible.
 
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