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Propylhexedrine - A Warning

Lestat.Hypersphere

Lestat.Hypersphere

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I thought I should share my cumulative experience with the not very well researched at high dosages (ie 125 to 250mg or more) yet long available chemical propyl. We all know it is the active ingredient in benzedrex and that is most likely what you are extracting it from or eating the cottons to get high.

I use to come on this forum on other usernames, I've abandoned all of them and won't be coming here anymore, but it's a great site for harm reduction with an awesome community! Anyways I digress, the point of this post is to say I fucked up my brain with propylhexedrine, everytime I do it now the left side feels strange and kind of hurts, I know it is directly caused by propyl. It starts hurting, more like feeling agitated, the day after I have taken propyl or even 2 days after, and doesn't go away for an entire week sometimes.

I eat great, exercise daily, take vitamins and supplements, but nothing could prevent the toll propylhexedrine took on me.

Please rethink your use of this chemical, and please don't use it often or frequently.

I for one am trying to get entirely sober now. I do apologize for being such a messy lowlife and coming here for the past year on multiple usernames, I've been stuggling with my own issues and am sorry.

However if you are going to use drugs, please avoid propylhexedrine. It is not even an amphetamine although some claim it is structurally similar to meth. But it carries side effects that even meth does not carry. Unless of course one becomes addicted to meth then that is simply life destroying in all aspects.

The thing is I didn't even think I was using propyl that heavily, then bam, brain trauma.
 
Update: Apparently this thread is right where it belongs, in the homeless section hahaha

Ok so it has been about 9 days since I last ingested any propyl, and the feeling in the left side of my head, brain, towards top of head, has reached a level of 'pain' never before felt. Something happened up there, but I feel it will repair and subside the longer we abstain from abusive chemicals. Using DXM 2 days ago seemed to have agitated the area. i first felt strange feelings in my head about 6 months ago from propyl. Although I had an excess buildupvof MXE metabolites about 4 months ago and quit all drugs because it felt like the brain had too much of something going on.


Will keep updating with status of my brain, lol.

Stay the fuck away from propylhexedrine folks. There is no such thing as safe use, unless you are taking like 25mg doses
 
Th drug is fantastic but as you said its dangerous. This stuff really screws with your mind, especially the come-down. Ive been using this stuff very heavily (7-8 inhalers at once) and cant really seem to stay away. Its not addictive but something else. This kind of screwed up my life big time so please stay away
 
I use it occasionally... it does feel pretty bad for you. I never use more than 250mg in a sitting. I feel the physical side effects through the next day and a bit into the one after that. It feels like it drains me each time, but it's pretty fun if you don't do it often.
 
What about your health state? Is ok? Cause i want to try it but anyway..thinking you know
 
Me? I'm quite healthy, I don't have any issues and I eat well and am in good shape/work out regularly. I don't do it often because it just feels bad afterwards, I've done it 2 days in a row before and that was no good for me. The day after it does seem to help my workout a bit even though I feel a little like ass... the stimulation persists which helps with physical activity but I have to be careful to not let my heart rate get too high because my baseline heart rate is already higher the next day. I feel like I shouldn't ever do propylhexedrine but I get the urge sometimes because it's fun and feels good while the primary effects are happening. It really lasts a long time.

I did 2 cottons at once one time and it was pretty horrible... I was seeing shadow people and I kept talking to people who weren't there. Very unnerving and uncomfortable experience, plus that time I didn't feel right for a couple of days. 1 cotton (250mg) is my limit. I can't imagine using 8 in one day like someone said above. Seems like I would die.
 
Seems like I would die.
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It doesn't just seem like it: it really could quite plausibly kill someone. Directly adrenergic agents tend to have low therapeutic indices and one doesn't usually gain much tolerance to direct adrenergic effects.

ebola
 
Propylhexedrine was the first stimulant I ever took. I drank an unknown amount of cotton dissolved in water (blechh!!!) and man when it kicked in I felt like straight superman for a few hours. Then *BAM* thunderclap of a headache started and I spent the rest of my time laying in bed praying for it to end.

I tried it a few times after that and it always made me feel very physically ill. Twice I threw up. All evidence points to it being hard on the cardio system and my experiences always reflected that. I don't understand how people can stand the vasoconstriction. And I went on to abuse the fuck out of MPDV later but I never felt as ill as propylhexedrine made me.
 
I have not used in a good 2 weeks. Have been feeling normal. The sensation in my head has left completely, it really lasted almost a week and while 'brain damage or trauma' is just a fear of what the feeling could have been, it really felt like something happened to a localized spot on the left side of my brain, kind of above and behind the temple region.

I can only imagine what the hell was going on in my head.

Propyl should be used seldomly if ever, and would never require more than 250mg to get a powerful rush even for heavyweights. It makes me way more social than meth with no paranoia. But meth never fucked with my brain the way this did.

People run into trouble dosing every week or even every couple weeks because it is so easy to obtain when one finds themselves unable to attain anything else.

Let's not keep it a secret any longer. I don't like propyl. I would rather be using a classic amphetamine. I don't have the time to sit and wait for a cathinone in the mail. I choose to drink on a whim, as I like to live clean however I have not found the strength to remain clean for the long haul yet, and so I drink sometimes. I hate the effects of alcohol but it is cheap and so closeby, perfect for my on a whim decision to inebriate myself. Propyl counters the unwanted depressant effects of alcohol, and adds an oh I feel so so good effect, which turns into an edgy shit feeling which requires more alcohol to kill off in the end. You see, I'm caught in a cycle. And I just had a couple mixed drinks. Lord help me but right now propyl is on my mind, and I want it badly to counter this sloppy draining alcohol buzz.
 
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Of course I had to perform a 'wash' on an inhaler after a few drinks. Should have figured.

Will post live updates of a 250mg dose, and any negative symptoms in the coming days, in detail.

I like to call it a wash rather than a soak. No cotton is being ingested. It is being soaked and squeezed in alcohol, I find it more effective than lemon juice for various reasons.

The wash is a more aggressive method than a soak if you will, squeezing out the active ingredient in a short amount of time. Flash soak if you will.
 
The problem is an 'accrued' or 'irreversible tolerance'. ebola? why do you say there is no significant tolerance. The euphoria goes away for weeks after one has used propyl multiple times. It requires a significantly higher dose to 'get off' even with a couple weeks off in between doses once one has used propyl multiple times it seems.

Onto one more dose of 250mg, long night ahead of us.
 
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So I made a mistake yet again yesterday. I used propyl. It agitated the spot in my brain, probably won't go away for a week.

I'm going to do cardio daily for the next several months. And eat really healthy, as I do normally. Also going to be taking turmeric and spirulina daily. Promote neurogenesis and CNS healing in all kinds of ways.

I have to stop drinking. Everytime I do, I will take propyl with it, no ifs ands or buts, its gonna happen. Alcohol provides a buzz for about 30 minutes then it flips a switch in my brain that says 'ok these effects are pathetic let's get something worthwhile'.

I am an addict. I have a drug and alcohol problem. I think it's time I switch addictions to all natural endorphin rushes through fitness and extreme sports. Also gonna get serious with my meditation practice.

May all be well and happy.

 
Im quite familiar with benzedrex. Lately ive binged on it. Not good. i started blacking out and feeling so dizzy. Usually i use two at a time with no issues. Thn all the sudden i was dizzy and my legs felt like jello. This lasted ten hours with the feeling of brain numbness. I do believe ive done damage to myself,but im having a hard time letting go. i can barely function witthout it. I did acquire some kpins to face the crash thats coming. Good luck to u!
 
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Im quite familiar with benzedrex. Lately ive binged on it. Not good. i started blacking out and feeling so dizzy. Usually i use two at a time with no issues. Thn all the sudden i was dizzy and my legs felt like jello. This lasted ten hours with the feeling of brain numbness. I do believe ive done damage to myself,but im having a hard time letting go. i can barely function witthout it. I did acquire some kpins to face the crash thats coming. Good luck to u!
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Dude. Wtf are you doing to yourself. I thought my propyl use was fuckin overboard but you and one other poster here make my shit seem exaggerated and harmless.

How the fuck much propyl and how often are you using dude?

My little head tension after effects are not that significant in retrospect.

Quit using propyl, it's fun once in a while if ever but will break your ass down if you do it habitually.
 
That's the truth... it's a fun drug but it feels VERY rough on the body and mind IMO... much rougher than amphetamine. I feel decidedly unhealthy the day after just from a single use. I honestly can't imagine how terrible it would be to binge on it or even worse, use it daily for long periods of time.
 
I used benzedrex for the first time yesterday. I did the lemon juice extraction. Drank one half and 30 minutes later drank the other half. I"m 5.3 145 lbs. I"m used to using drugs and alcohol, mostly uppers (coke). I have been taking diet pills (phentermine) for 2 days because I couldn't find real amphetamine. Since I was not getting any high, I decided to come here and learned about benzedrex.

Well, I never got high. I waited for 5 hours and nothing happened. No euphoria, no high, no good feeling. Just a head buzz. Then the comedown CAME. OMG, this was the worst comedown I ever had. Worse than a week coke binge. Pounding headache, stiff neck, every muscle in my body hurt, etc. I managed to sleep for 12 hours and woke up feeling worse. In addition to all the pain from the previous day, I was also dizzy, lightheaded and very weak.

Why do you think this didn't work for me?
1) too high of a dose?
2) mixed with phentermine?

I want to try a second time but would love to hear your thoughts on how to make this work.
 
Why do you think this didn't work for me?
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It sounds to me like it worked, but you didn't enjoy it. Honestly, compounds with such strong adrenergic agonism tend to be poorly tolerated. Insofar as you have tolerance to stimulants, we should expect propylhexedrine to feel even worse, as you will exhibit more tolerance to dopaminergic effects than to adrenergic activity.

1) too high of a dose?
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Clearly (those side-effects sound rather alarming). The thing is, a lower dose might not yield the high you're looking for either. If you take this compound again, I'd reduce the dosage by at least fifty percent (though I wouldn't take it again at all if I were in your shoes).

2) mixed with phentermine?
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I'd imagine this making things worse in that people tend to experience drastic acute tolerance to stimulants during multi-day runs. Also, while phentermine doesn't act strongly as a direct adrenergic agonist, it is highly selective for NET over DAT, so I would expect it to be pretty damn jittery in combination with propylhexedrine.

ebola
 
Thank you. I will try maybe less than half of 250mg. I wonder if I should add more lime juice so the concentration of propylhexedrine is not too strong.
 
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