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Proper (Opiate) Pill Dosing With Scale (accuracy?)

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arthunter888

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I tend to get high dosage opiate pills such as OC 40s, 80s, and Opana 40s, so in context with low tolerance I find myself either taking too much or taking not enough more often than hitting a sweet spot. This occurs because my tolerance is quite low so I have to break the pill down (which never breaks evenly) and eyeball my dose: when I take too much I'm sick for the day, and when I don't take enough I have to keep adding to the dose every half hour and end up wasting a bunch because of the diminished effect of latter doses.

I'm thinking about getting a scale so I could dose accurately. How ever I'm not sure how accurate the scale needs to be. I know that it is going to be either a milligram scale (.001g = 1/1000g = 1mg), or a centigram scale (.01g = 1/100g = 10mg). Therefore the accuracy dictates that they can be off by plus or minus 1mg for the milli, and plus or minus 10mgs for the centi. I'd prefer the centi if the centi will be good enough, the reasons being that I read (from reviews) the millis tend to discharge batteries quick, readings can be inconsistent, and a good one can be quite pricey.

I can't usually go even 3mgs of oxy over my limit without getting sick, so the reading should should be within plus or minus 3 mgs of oxy. Keep in mind that this is 3 mgs of oxy, NOT pill powder. I'm not sure what density of oxy is in an OC-40, but if it is close to an OC-80 (which I remember from another post to be 240mg?), then being a 1/3 active ---> 10mgs of pill powder would contain around 3mgs oxy. And since the centi scale is plus or minus 10mgs, this would equal plus or minus 3 mgs oxy, which in theory would be enough of a difference to make me sick if the reading is off by +10mgs of pill powder.

Does this make sense? Does anyone think that the centi (.01g) scale will be accurate enough to keep the reading within 3mgs oxy? Also I would like to be able to dose the small oxy 30mg IRs too like Mallinkrodts and Actavis/Amide (are these more or less concentrated that OCs?).
 
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arthunter888 said:
I'm thinking about getting a scale so I could dose accurately. How ever I'm not sure how accurate the scale needs to be. I know that it is going to be either a milligram scale (.001g = 1/100g = 1mg), or a centigram scale (.01g = 1/10g = 10mg).
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1mg=1/1000 of a gram, 10 mg=1/100 of a gram.

0,01 scale should be ok.
let's assume you want to weigh 10mg of oxy. you weigh the OC80 which might weigh around 500mg e.g. .
now you weigh 1/8 of the pill and you got... 10 mgs of oxy.;)
 
Why not go for a milligram scale? You can get them dirt-shit-cheap on ebay. Like, $25 cheap. You're not going to get a centigram scale for much less than that, and the milligram scale will let you measure somewhat more accurately.

I would say that the centigram scale would probably just barely cut it, if you're working with OC80's, and trying to dose within a couple mg of active material. Especially if you want to be able to get that kind of accuracy with other kinds of high-strength pills.
 
^ I read some Amazon reviews on the cheapest milligram scales I found on ebay, and they tend to use up batteries quick, can have errors of up to +/- 12mg, and the readings jump around a bit. But even with these factors am I better off than with a centigram scale?
 
yes because it will have higher accuracy even if it is off because if at the most its 12, the centigram could be around that too. or higher depending on make, model, etc
 
OC's and stuff have a wax coating, right? (I don't know, never seen 'em) The other constituents of the pill may not pulverize easily into a fine powder, so you can't really guarantee an even dosage.

However, opiates are water soluble and stock solutions are guaranteed to be nice and homogeneous You could crush and dissolve a known amount in a measured amount of water (i.e. 40mg / 4mL) and measure doses with a syringe.

This practice, of course, is probably begging to escalate quickly into IV use, but whatever.

Addendum: I just remembered that heroin deacetylates into morphine relatively quickly in water, but does anyone know if oxycodone or other opiods are prone to decomposition?
 
I think getting the good stuff out of OC's and into water solution is non-trivial (they've gone to quite some work to make it hard to abuse it - it'd be pretty silly if you could just crush->CWE->dry->sniff/shoot/etc)
 
I won't be shooting anything. Plugging and/or snorting. As long as the pill is homogenous (active materially is equally distributed through the pill) the calculations will be accurate if the readings are accurate.

Does anyone know for sure if pills are homogenous?
 
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