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Prop 19

Vote yes! It may not be that well written according to some, but at least it's a step in the right direction for this country. The drug arrests in the country are outta control, and corruption and self-interest are outta bounds. Besides, when every other state sees the dough the Cali is pulling in if Prop 19 passes, they will follow suit.
 
I'm rather with Coolio on this. It could put a lot of folks out of work at a time when we can ill afford to do so, and if the value of weed undergoes the ruinous deflation that it is projected to by the Rand study, this would have a devastating impact on the industry outside of California as well, and a further concentration of assets and power in a smaller number of people in Cali, all as the Feds get ready to swoop in and tear their operation to pieces. The last piece is the redeeming part, though, the good thing about Prop 19 is that it has the potential to create real controversy if the Feds crack down, and will make the Feds look foolish if they don't, it is a real damned-if-they-do damned-if-they-don't situation for the USG & the DEA. However it's impact on your friendly neighborhood pot dealer/grower is likely to be harmful, and the law itself has significant issues. If I were in California, I would much rather see the status quo continue, because it's easy as fuck to get your medical card and weed is de facto illegal anyway. Prop 19 will just exert a destabilizing effect in the short term. However, in terms of ultimately pushing an agenda of legaliation of drugs in thsi country, I would like to see it passed strictly as a propaganda measure and as a way for Cali to troll the feds into taking some actions which would have genuine impact in terms of creating a national dialogue. So in terms of the immediate effects I think Prop 19 is a huge liability; in terms of the long term effects, and in terms of having a lot of interesting shit to read and watch on TV in the next few years, it's a positive.
 
I really dont give a crap about a weed dealer that sells G's, eigths, quads, and halfers lol. Most people make there money by selling weed to the clubs these days.

What are the feds going to do, were talking about people having ounces of weed, not pounds. If your a ounce type person I dont think the feds are going to run you down.

Medical weed is against federal law and they hardly ever fuck with clubs.
 
hydrochron said:
I really dont give a crap about a weed dealer that sells G's, eigths, quads, and halfers lol. Most people make there money by selling weed to the clubs these days.

Nor do people who shop at WAL*MART care much about the mom and pop stores it put out of business.

What are the feds going to do, were talking about people having ounces of weed, not pounds. If your a ounce type person I dont think the feds are going to run you down.

Medical weed is against federal law and they hardly ever fuck with clubs.
Probably not chasing after people on the lower end of the food chain to a great degree, but they have promised more vigorous enforcement if prop19 passes
 
Fuck I'm glad I'm Canadian!

A few years back I got nailed for cultivation and possession for the purpose. I had about 4.5 pounds dry and 36 flowering plants got 30 days and 1 year probation. At the time I didn't have any prior trafficking & cultivation convictions but did have possession of cocaine, marijuana, assault with a weapon and possession of prohibited firearm on my record.

I would have got a mandatory minimum of 10 years and all my possesions siezed as proceeds of crime for the same shit in the US.

US drug laws are fucked!
 
I'm rather with Coolio on this. It could put a lot of folks out of work at a time when we can ill afford to do so, and if the value of weed undergoes the ruinous deflation that it is projected to by the Rand study, this would have a devastating impact on the industry outside of California as well, and a further concentration of assets and power in a smaller number of people in Cali, all as the Feds get ready to swoop in and tear their operation to pieces. The last piece is the redeeming part, though, the good thing about Prop 19 is that it has the potential to create real controversy if the Feds crack down, and will make the Feds look foolish if they don't, it is a real damned-if-they-do damned-if-they-don't situation for the USG & the DEA. However it's impact on your friendly neighborhood pot dealer/grower is likely to be harmful, and the law itself has significant issues. If I were in California, I would much rather see the status quo continue, because it's easy as fuck to get your medical card and weed is de facto illegal anyway. Prop 19 will just exert a destabilizing effect in the short term. However, in terms of ultimately pushing an agenda of legaliation of drugs in thsi country, I would like to see it passed strictly as a propaganda measure and as a way for Cali to troll the feds into taking some actions which would have genuine impact in terms of creating a national dialogue. So in terms of the immediate effects I think Prop 19 is a huge liability; in terms of the long term effects, and in terms of having a lot of interesting shit to read and watch on TV in the next few years, it's a positive.

I think in the short term it might put people out of "work" but in the long term I don't see how keeping a market black will benefit it. There will be plenty of money to be made from legal cannabis even if it's price comes down closer to what it should be.
 
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