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Pronouncing "NBOMe"

I used to pronounce it by spelling out every letter :\

Of course it is "en-bome" though.
 
cpuller said:
What does Nbome mean anyways and couldt they have found another name?

Is this some sort of deep satire I'm not getting? :P
nbome is an acronym that describes a key feature of these compounds' structure...this sort of thing is distinctly unironically useful for those who study these compounds.

Stupid chemists they should give it a scene name allready so it wont be called something stupid like roflcopter. . .Anyways give your drugs names of some greek godesses or something very distinguished so the press cant make up shitty names

Notice how Shulgin did this and none of the names stuck? :P
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So I got beef with the 25x-nBOMe nomenclature. Granted, "2Cx" only makes sense from a historical standpoint (where Shulgin turned his attention to the '2 carbon' (phenethylamine) counterparts of the 2,4,5 substituted amphetamines that he was working on earlier. Now, per Heim's terminology (he discovered the compounds and coined their names), the 2Cxs should be called 25xs (why Heim decided that 2 and 5 clearly denote the positions of the methyl substitutions on the phenyl ring, the attached letter marking the substitution at the 4 position, I'm not sure). The problem is, a lot of people have begun abbreviating "25x-nBOMe" to "25x", but the truncated terms refer to different compounds entirely! If Heim were to browse bluelight, he might get confused by some of our posts. :P

And then there's the 'n-benzoxymethyl thing'. Why not "n-benzylmethoxy"? People seem to talk a lot more about methoxy groups than they do about "oxymethyl groups".

ebola
 
I think it's actually N-(2-methoxy)benzyl, not N-benzoxymethyl. My friends say "N Bomb."
 
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Organic Chem nomenclature can vary according to perspective IME. Depending on enantiomers, stereoisomers, what other atoms are attached etc.

Debate?
 
Actually looking at IUPAC why is it not N-benzylmethoxy? And (2-methoxy)benzyl could work. So could dimethoxyphenyl if it is attached to the parent compound or it could also be methoxyphenyl depending on what "ring" you're looking at. Then theres the other naming "systems" ie traditional, SMILES, InChl...
 
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Because it is not like benzyl and methoxy are 2 moieties that are connected via the N-terminus in a positionally equivalent way like the N,N (notice the N listed twice!) substitutions on tryptamines. If that were the case, alphabetical order would be appropriate. (By the way, proper nomenclature is not used when naming things like MET, I think, because it is not in alphabetical order. I suppose this is because EMT does not sound as nice - even alarming to some ;) ).
However here N-benzylmethoxy would make it seem like benzylmethoxy is a moiety of its own at the N-position, the benzyl being nothing more than a substitution somewhere on the methoxy. Which is absolutely incorrect since it is the other way around.

I am not sure at what IUPAC name you are looking, but there is no "N-benzylmethoxy" there, instead there is "(methoxyphenyl)methyl".

The sequence of letters in NBOMe represents that there is a nitrogen connected to a benzyl connected via an ether to a methyl (this last part is the methoxy of course).
 
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You raise a point that I will research further tomorrow. Thanks for your reply Solipsis, I was mucking around with chem books for a while today reading up about it. I will respond some time tomorrow, it might be good to hear some input from @ebola? also if possible....
 
solipsis said:
I'm not sure that's what they meant...

See this 'band':
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?

The band's name is pronounced "Laughing my Fucking Ass Off". ;) :P

However here N-benzylmethoxy would make it seem like benzylmethoxy is a moiety of its own at the N-position, the benzyl being nothing more than a substitution somewhere on the methoxy. Which is absolutely incorrect since it is the other way around.

Thank you! I was hoping to hear some rationale from someone. :)

trip more said:
Do you pronounce LSD lissdaa? Nope, you say the letters as the mean something.

Well, "LSD" is the acronym for the German name for the compound.

ebola
 
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