Problems IV'ing H

[Tenninethousand]

Hey,

Just started IV'ing H - been snorting it for a while now...but there seems to be a problem.

I had let someone else shoot me up before and although I kept breaking out with hives or welps on my arms (which from what I read, it means he missed) I never ever seemed to get a rush. I thought I'd be better off trying to do it myself. After reading multiple how to do articles for properly shooting, I tried it, didn't get the hives, and still had no rush at all. I felt a slight (very mild) high 5 minutes later, but it wasn't even as good as snorting. I have a very high tolerance. I can snort up to 8 bags at once or do multiple opanas and be fine - but I thought from shooting 3 bags I would at least get some type of rush, so it's not making sense.

I put the dope in a plastic spoon, mix, put the cotton in and pull it into the needle - but a girl told me I don't need to cook this kind (it's powder - beige looking - supposedly from NY) could this somehow be preventing it? Also, I try to untie myself before injecting but sometimes I leave it slightly tied due to not wanting to move the needle out of the vein any....would that prevent the rush if it's not untied yet?

I've realized it may just be I'm not hitting a vein properly, but when I pull back, there is dark blood that comes in the syringe. Help?

 

[Effect]

If your not getting a rush and you think the dosages are enough based on how much you were sniffing to get high, then chances are the quality of your dope is poor.

If you were sniffing 8 bags to get high then shooting 3 just might now be enough to get a rush especially if you already have dope in your system. Try waiting 24 hours and shoot 4-5 bags and see if you can get the rush your looking for.

 

[Tenninethousand]

I mean I typically use to get through the day - I have never got a real nodding out effect from dope. I usually only snort around 3 bags at a time and feel decent, most I've snorted at once is 8 and I felt really good - but not nodding. But I'm saying bag for bag, I get a better effect from snorting - which I know isn't normal. Everyone says this is the best dope around, straight from NY. People drive hours to Henderson, NC where I get mine from..

I just think I'm doing something wrong here. I think I might move too much after drawing back the blood, trying to untie, is it possible that it loses the vein or unlikely? I just think I'm doing something wrong while shooting. Do you have to cook this kind of powdered dope, would it effect the high? And what are more tips on shooting up and where to find best veins?

I just shot up actually and this was the best shot yet and it was from 2 bags - I think maybe I am just getting better possibly?

 

[Effect]

You'll know if your missing. It will produce a painful burning like sensation and will make a bubble in the skin at the injection site.

 

[crzydiamond]

The hives/whelps are most likely a histamine reaction. Sometimes you even get them all along the vein. It doesn't mean you missed.
If you are getting blood, a steady stream, you are in the vein. And like the above poster says, it's burns when you miss. And you get a big bubble. Not hives

 

[Effect]

^ yeah those histamine reactions can occur randomly and will appear in random spots around the injection and along the vein.

Very rarely do I get them to the point where they produce the tell tale blotches, but I actually got one like that a few days ago when trying a new batch that my connect gave me to sample.

 

[Tenninethousand]

Two questions I have - does cooking it have anything to do with the high it will give you? I haven't been cooking it since the girl told me this powdered kind you don't have to. Also, once I pull back and there is blood, if I move at all while trying to untie, could that possibly make me miss? Like, do you have to untie before injecting? Because I just tried again with 4 bags, pulled back blood, and moved while trying to untie and when I shot I ended up with a big bubble again...also, is shooting higher up the arm near the wrist a bad spot to shoot?

Here's an image example.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2yo1lr5.jpg

 

[Xn1919]

dude.. u need to be careful!!! 4 bags is way too much to be blasting... all cooking does in a sense "cook out" impurities that the dope might be cut with.. I had about a 10 bag a day habit and I would never do more than 2 bags at a time.. you are lucky u might of missed 4 bags of decent dope or fire, u might not be here anymore.. good luck.. and when cooking, don't cook it till it boils. if you are doing that, you might be cooking all the dope outta of the spoon.

 

[Crashing]

Adding heat is not advised, especially when using the beige hcl powder heroin from New York. It's completely water soluble and adding heat will only further dissolve any impurities into the shot. Usually heating this type of dope results in a worsened histamine reaction, probably due either degradation into morphine or increasing the amount of fillers going through the cotton.

That being said, either way you should be getting a very noticeable rush from IVing 1/3rd of your normal dose. Also when you shoot up, you should loosen the tourniquet before pushing the plunger down, to prevent vein damage. You want the drug to easily pass through the vein and not get bunched up in there. All this aside, you should still be getting a rush. I would try without the heating.

 

[wezface]

It really depends on the stuff you're getting. I have had the brown powder stuff for years now, and I have had some stuff that gives me a rush and some stuff where the high comes on far more subtly. The only reason I really cook it is to break down the chunks and, for some types, increase the solubility. I would suggest smoking some of it - if you don't get a rush from smoking it, it's probably the stuff you're getting. If you do, it's probably something you're doing wrong with the IV process.

 

[wezface]

Also: Are you absolutely sure you are using a vein and not an artery?

 

[Effect]

Also: Are you absolutely sure you are using a vein and not an artery?

He would 100% know if he was hitting an artery. If you hit one an artery in your arm, it's going to cause your hand and almost everything from the injection site downward to swell up like crazy due to the fact arteries carry blood away from the heart and veins go to.

 

[wezface]

That's why I was asking. It sounds like he's had swelling and arteries can cause that even if he was hitting the right spot. If he's unfamiliar with IV'ing, he may not know.

 

[NodOut503]

You dont have to untie when injecting. I will stay tied until I inject the whole thing and then as soon as im done I hurry up and untie. Im on the west coast, so I get black tar. It most definitely has to be cooked and I def boil it to make sure i kill any bacteria. I just started IV. And what makes it hard to do is if u get it too dark then its hard to see if u flag.
Ive been a smoker for years, but my lungs are so messed up that its like fire now. So im doing what I never thought id do. Its been a few weeks now and I thought I had the hang of it, but ive missed a few times and it sucks so bad. Break out in welts all over the injection spot. If I were u I would stay tied until finished. If u feel the slightest burn then stop immediately. Dont risk it. Id tather be sick then be high with an infection!

Im having a hard time finding new veins... I dont want to thread jack tho so I started my own

 

[mostly-human]

Haven't read the whole thread (though I did read some) so sorry if I'm outta place.

Sounds to me like you (OP) have simply taken your addiction beyond the point of getting a decent rush from banging, whilst you were snorting.. Seems to me that maybe you built up injecting in your mind to be some magical thing you could turn to, when you stopped getting high from sniffing it.. Truth is, once you're at that stage, shooting dope don't do much other than make you feel aight 'gen.


Soz.