probably most amazing discovery of my life..

[DOB]

...I am now 100% sure that trees are concious at some level and that they can sense what we think!

I live in fairly cold Slovak Republic,I spend alot time in my home on second floor of panel house,theres alot huge trees around,many in front of the window of my room...

for decade and half,everytime I opened the only window of my room,there was this tree that was closest,I just look out of window at the world,just checking climate conditions,philosophy thinking,stalking people or when I used to smoke.... or when I listen music etc.... I was looking alot at this three for my whole life

I kinda came to love that tree over the years,seeing how it grow and then these bastard cut some of it and then I saw the regeneration.... most of the time I check how the leafs look,I am kind of emotional person that hangs on past,I just dont like when the full healthy green leaves turn into yellow and fall,probably becose it reminds me of my own mortality and unstopable aging

here is the thing,this three knows I am sad when I see the leafs falling,it knows I like to see them green becose its like a feeling I still have plenty time left,and what that three does,he delay the leaf fall as much as possible to make me happy

every single three,every single one I saw have completly all leafs fallen for good time now,but this three,in the area where I check the leaves,is going green like its middle of summer!!! no sign of these leaves falling any time soon,and its what 29.11.2012? basicly new year in month???

there literaly hundrets of three of this kind in this area and none of have have even one yellow leaf,the top of the three is leaf less becose I dont look at that part of the three often becose its very very tall.... I am big nature protector,I love the trees for their fruits,shade,oxygen and how the keep the earth wet and not like desert...

what do you think?

 

[Changed]

I agree with your basic argument, that trees are conscious, just as everything else is, at some level, in this existence, but your raving, grammar ignoring and spelling-be-damned post makes my head hurt.

 

[RobotRipping]

kind of tough to prove but intuitively i feel the same. First found out when i was tripping hard on DXM while hugging a tree screaming about being in a tree brigade or something. lol

 

[DOB]

I agree with your basic argument, that trees are conscious, just as everything else is, at some level, in this existence, but your raving, grammar ignoring and spelling-be-damned post makes my head hurt.

dear gramar nazi if you lived in my country you would probably have much worse english language skills than me

 

[DOB]

kind of tough to prove but intuitively i feel the same. First found out when i was tripping hard on DXM while hugging a tree screaming about being in a tree brigade or something. lol

I hope you didnt puked on that tree too :D

 

[Changed]

dear gramar nazi if you lived in my country you would probably have much worse english language skills than me

Can you also blame your complete dearth of punctuation; fluctuations in spelling of the same word; and, misuse of basic grammatical devices on a lack of English language skills?

 

[bagochina]

totally agree.

 

[L2R]

there's no need for the hostility, changed.

DOB, you need more than the leaves to draw such a conclusion. I think you are stretching that quite far. it could be counterargued that you are experiencing delusions of reference, adding meaning where there is none.

nice story, though (and i mean that).

 

[DOB]

there's no need for the hostility, changed.

DOB, you need more than the leaves to draw such a conclusion. I think you are stretching that quite far. it could be counterargued that you are experiencing delusions of reference, adding meaning where there is none.

nice story, though (and i mean that).

I am atheist and I am not one of those that derp around some phantasy astral nonsense but this is what I observed for years and I dont see any other reason why the leaf fall in that particular area of that tree do that

if you have any other explanation for why this happen I would more than like to hear ( reed ) it

 

[P A]

Can you also blame your complete dearth of punctuation; fluctuations in spelling of the same word; and, misuse of basic grammatical devices on a lack of English language skills?

And in that sentence alone, you made gratuitous and inappropriate use of the semicolon (a punctuation mark that is typically reserved for the separation of enumerated constituents bounded upon the right-hand side by a non-terminal punctuation mark of greater strength, e.g. a colon) and[,] misused a comma in the process of pointlessly alienating and deriding a non-native English speaker who was, by all appearances, making a sincere effort to communicate effectively on an English-language forum. Good job.

re. vegetable consciousness

The concept of an empirically verifiable and quantifiable sentience quotient might be of interest to you.

 

[RobotRipping]

^lol

 

[Changed]

semi-colon with a list.
oxford comma.

 

[DOB]

semi-colon with a list.
oxford comma.

meh

 

[DOB]

P A

I think the concious is quantum world thing,thats why we cant detect it now

 

[rangrz]

P A

I think the concious is quantum world thing,thats why we cant detect it now

So, what's it's psi function or its Hamiltonian operator? You have a Feynman diagram of it then perhaps? You're saying the minimum quanta of action for consciousness is 6.626068 × 10 -34 m 2 kg / s ?

That's why we can't measure it huh? So, I'm presuming you're unaware of everything from Youngs double slit to the Large Hardron Colliders ATLAS detector.

In what sense where you using the term quantum here?

 

[P A]

semi-colon with a list.

Nope. Reread my post and the article to which it linked, with especial attention to the subsection titled 'Constraints,' in which it is made expressly clear that if there is no colon (or punctuation mark of comparable strength) preceding the list, semicolons are not to be used.

oxford comma.

From the post in question (emphasis mine):

and, misuse of basic

The serial comma is placed before the coordinating conjunction, not after. Nice try though; I suppose I should award you points for trying to save face, but you done fucked up on this one.

 

[DOB]

So, what's it's psi function or its Hamiltonian operator? You have a Feynman diagram of it then perhaps? You're saying the minimum quanta of action for consciousness is 6.626068 × 10 -34 m 2 kg / s ?

That's why we can't measure it huh? So, I'm presuming you're unaware of everything from Youngs double slit to the Large Hardron Colliders ATLAS detector.

In what sense where you using the term quantum here?

in sense that is wrong so you can correct me,I loose you win

 

[DOB]

Nope. Reread my post and the article to which it linked, with especial attention to the subsection titled 'Constraints,' in which it is main expressly clear that if there is no colon (or punctuation mark of comparable strength) preceding the list, semicolons are not to be used.



From the post in question (emphasis mine):



The serial comma is placed before the coordinating conjunction, not after. Nice try though; I suppose I should award you points for trying to save face, but you done fucked up on this one.

lol PA :D

 

[P A]

In what sense where you using the term quantum here?

I find it amusing to remark upon the number and variety of bizarre New Age appropriations of the word 'quantum' to describe anything that seems beyond comprehension and/or experience, a usage which is, ironically enough, about as far as you could possibly get from both the literal meaning of the word and the body of scientific literature to which it refers.

 

[DOB]

I find it amusing to remark upon the number and variety of bizarre New Age appropriations of the word 'quantum' to describe anything that seems beyond comprehension and/or experience, a usage which is, ironically enough, about as far as you could possibly get from both the literal meaning of the word and the body of scientific literature to which it refers.

well I dont trow quantum around for everything I am not able to comprehend.... you wont see me derpin about mysteries of quantum nicki minaj fans