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Prescription questions (NOT a how do I get thread)

Limpet_Chicken

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Right....I have a bit of a bloody problem here.

So...this isn't something like some greenlighters post asking how do I get a script for *insert drug here*

I actually already have a regular prescription, so I don't even have a reason to try that, and I'm making it clear beforehand, that I don't WANT advice along those lines.

What I want to know, is can a pharmacist 'decide' that a patient 'doesn't need' the things appearing on a valid NHS prescription, issued not ten minutes previous, during a face-to-face appointment with his regular GP? and whats more, can they then, after refusing to issue said rx, refuse to hand them back over to the patient?

I was pretty lucky, I get the sense, that I got them back. Had to stand there, doing my best to look as unmovable as a ten ton truckload of concrete, waiting, looking pissed off, and just waited until she came out and realized that I'd have been stood there all day until I did get them back, as the script includes oxycontin 80s, and antiseizure meds amongst quite a few other things.

So does a pharmacist in the UK (england specifically) have the right to do this? can they simply overrule a prescribing doctor and deprive a patient of a legitimate rx ? because if not, you bloody well bet I'm about to drop her in it arse deep in alligators.

Cheeky bitch actually phoned the next nearest pharmacy to pursuade them to do the same, and to be real honest, I am bloody livid with the cunt. The one in the next place was really , really rude as well. Bloody miserable cow if ever I saw one.


This first place never put in question the validity and legality of the prescriptions, they KNEW that they were, and never tried to ask anyone at the surgery if they were or not, thats not the issue here, but just 'deciding' I didn't need them.
 
Thats odd. I dont know the answer but I thought the general rule was the doctor has the last word. could you not say something to him about it.
 
Oh I will do. It isn't an option at this particular moment, being a weekend and all, but yes, you bet I am going to.

Thats not going to get me my prescription when i need it however, time to go somewhere further afield.

And thats what I thought-if the doc prescribes it, and there is no extenuating crap, such as rx fraud by a patient, a stolen rx, etc. etc. none of which applies here, then what they say, goes. At least that was the impression I had.
 
Not at all, Thats bang out of order, Maybe a disgrunteld phamacist thats pissed he didn't stay on to become a Dr and is trying to act like one!
 
As far as I know, if a pharmacist sees a prescription that he/she considers to be dangerous, they're allowed not to hand it to you. I think. But they're definitely not allowed to just because they think you 'don't need it'. It's more in a scenario where I dunno, your doctor prescribes 30mg xanax a day.
But then I'm not exactly sure how it would work, I'd think they'd call your doctor up, keep you in the loop or something...but yeah, pharmacists definitely have a 'right' not to hand out meds sometimes :\
 
That is definitely interfering with your doctors right to prescribe and treat you. I'd tell your doctor, he'll be fucked off for sure.

I'm pretty sure they can refuse to fill prescriptions, but I can't recall the reasons for that.
 
They may be able to if they think there is a fuck up on the script, but as said a few posts back, they should ring your doc when you are there and let you know what is going on, if a dr gives you a prescription that is his/her right and pharmacists should not be interferring with that, they are there to dispense meds, not decide who can have what and when, but i do suppose they have a duty of care as well, but the most they should do is check with your Dr
 
^They're definitely not just there to dispense meds...they do have every right to refuse a prescription if they think it's dangerous. Doctors fuck up sometimes and pharmacists are supposed to check a prescription is safe before giving the patient his stuff. But yes, I'd imagine they have to call the doctor up there and give you some kind of explanation, they definitely can't just flat out say no and leave you there with nothing. But it is in their right not to give it to you sometimes.

That's the whole reason why pharmacists go to med school. If they were jsut there to give the meds anyone could do it. But this particular scenario is clearly a bit much and completely unfair to the OP.
 
Unless there is a misprint ie 300 tabs instead of 30, im pretty sure the doc always gets the final say.

You cant change docs often, but you can go into any pharmacy, but best to avoid the big chain ones like Superdrugs. they are wankers
I got some pills that contained gelatine, as im vegetarian I took them back after reading the label, the cunt only went and insisted I go back to my doc for a fresh prescription.
Never set foot in a high st brand pharmacy since then.
 
Sounds like the blind prejudice and ignorance which drug users are treated by some none drug takers. Ive noticed this so much. Some people, like my GP, have so little respect for me now she knows im a drug user that she barely lets me speak, and doesnt want to listen to a word i say.

Thing is these people know that drugsters are unlikely to kick up a fuss, cos the person you've complained about would likely want revenge, and the simplest way would be to get the police to raid your house looking for drugs.........
 
I had a pharmacist get uptight over filling modafinil and temazepam. I usually would go to the same pharmacy but this one time I went to another branch. I dropped them off the previous night and didn't find out there was a problem until I phoned the next day to make sure they were ready. He told me it was a potentially dangerous combination and needed to talk with my doctor, even though I had been taking these together for more than two years. He could see that in the computer but had to be sure.

I was a little annoyed because he seemed overzealous about ensuring my safety. Once he got that cleared up, he was apologetic and sweet about it. Oxycodone is another story altogether. I always got the stink eye no matter where I went trying to fill those and I always dropped that off alone with nothing else for that reason. Pharmacists many times get the attitude that people who take oxys are lowlife scum.
 
docs may get the final say.. but im pretty sure a pharmacist still has the right not to issue the prescription, but obviously they would have to hand you it back. to confiscate a legit prescription without very good reason would result in the very least in their getting into trouble. in these situations its always best to keep calm, keep the doctor onside and let him fight the battles for you


theres always other pharmacists - not a problem in a town or city, if youre in a one horse town however, it could be more problematic
 
My understanding of it is that the prescribing doctor has final say on the script, but the pharmacist can always just refuse to dispense the script, and he is within his right to refuse any script that he is not happy with.

I had one guy in Boots over here refuse to dispense a repeat script for a 5ooml bottle of codeine linctus a few times, I meet him a few times in different Boots. Fcuker even lied to me at one stage, he rand the GP and came back sayong he wanted to see me and that he was told to not to return the scriot to me, when I asked the doctor he told me he only asked for me to pop into the surgery.

So sometimes they go on their onw agenda too, I heat those ones who lie and come out with something like we don't have that in stock etc. Can you not use a diffent pharmacy?
 
Yeah, this is nothing excessive. In fact, it is a single days worth of my meds, excluding only a xylometazoline nasal spray and bottle of gaviscon, which of course, can scarcely be partially dispensed, but those are of no consequence, hardly likely to make anybody turn an eyebrow up in curiosity.

There is a CD on one of them, oxy 80s, but not an excessive quantity. two tablets, a single day's worth of that, likewise, enough of my meds just to cover the fact that I needed to switch my due day for my scripts (they are all on a regular basis, bar only some steroids, mometasone, beclometasone, hydrocortisone and occasionally a short course of methylprednisolone, those I just ask my doc for as and when I actually need some more) and also injected prednisone, and injected bupivacaine or lidocaine, but those never goes to a pharmacy, I have my doc do the steroid shots into my joints, sue me, but whilst I can handle IV, IM, SC injections myself confidently and safely enough, I've never myself done an intraarticular injection and see no good reason to either, my GP is one of the most senior in the PCT area, and has many years of experience doing those so I have no need.

Although the regional nerve blockade, that I can do easily enough (I got left with some degree of nerve damage after I had an unsuccessful surgery...didn't fix the problem, and buggered up more things besides, and like many, I find that neuropathic pain is extremely resistant to opioids, to an absolutely insane degree, 2mg of IV fentanyl is quite enough to put me flat on my back, in a state where somebody could hit me in the face with a hammer, and I doubt I would notice at the time...but the only effect on the neuropathy it had, was to make it just a little bit less intolerable)

Shouldn't have to say it, but nobody here should go and try shooting 2mg of fent, I did it, but I didn't push it quickly, and I have, regrettably, a hefty tolerance to opiates, and access to respiratory stimulants at the time (nikethamide, not something I would want to use in any case, given my understanding of its method of action...I think its some sort of GABAa antagonist or inverse agonist selective for the barbiturate site, sounds a lot like bemegride, as it had been made, basically, for no other reason than being incredibly bloody bored, with absolutely nothing better to do, from scraps of otherwise useless rubbish :P)

I'm glad to say, that I got my prescriptions. Had to go around and about a bit, as various places didn't have one or other of my meds. No pharmacist or assistant pill gremlin complained, and nobody asked any questions, other than to confirm my name and first line of address, which is reasonable enough, especially from a place that I have almost never picked up prescriptions from. Couldn't get everything on all of the rx slips (I get so many its a bloody nuisance fillingin all the forms, not all of them bluelighter-desirable goodies, lots of stuff like corticosteroids, antihistamines, movicol to go with the oxy to prevent getting...well..nuff said there :P ), but I don't really worry too much about having to wait a couple of days for a topical NSAID spray, not the end of the world.

Going cold turkey on a mixture of oxy 80s, chlormethiazole, clonidine, tizanidine and buscopan (scopolamine/hyoscine quat. amine salt, for stomach cramps)....that on the other hand would turn very unpleasant and ugly, very quickly)

I don't get it, really, WHY she (the pharmacist being a pain in the..albeit rather tall, leggy and not at all unattractive, for someone not autistic, arse haha) was being like that. Shes always been friendly, helpful and considerate in the past. To the extent that on one of the very, very few times she has ever made a mistake with a prescription I've had, I was left down by a couple of chlormethiazole capsules just because she must have accidentally miscounted them whilst dispensing. I'd gone home, checked everything, and found I was a couple missing.

Went back, and told her what the problem was, and she didn't even check the quantity remaining in the stocks, or any records, just 'here you go, sorry about that', no questions asked. Its no CD, but its quite certainly an abusable pharmaceutical, GABAa agonist with a bloody steep dose-response curve, squirrely as hell interactions with alcohol (I.e couple of drinks, quite a few people end up turning green around the gills and passing out :P), and a very barbiturate-like profile, subjectively and objectively speaking. I was being truthful, and had indeed been left down those pills, but I could very easily have taken some, and waved a bottle in front of her, having gone home and come back...she didn't even ask to see the bottle or count them, although I did have it with me in case she did.

All in all, nice lass, never a problem before, always gone out of her way to make sure I get what I need, when I need it.

But all of a sudden, turns round and does that, and furthermore attempts to sabotage my ability to pick up the prescription at the other local pharmacy. The only other local one that I can walk to without my pain levels becoming intolerable, if I have no meds and am picking up a fresh script.

Thankfully, didn't decide to submit a job application for the gestapo/waffen SS and call every pharmacy in my home city at least. But it still meant I had to go to the neighboring town to get my first dose of the day, I managed to get a lift from my old man down there thankfully, but even then, it really doesn't take much, exertion wise.

I truly dread it, when I have to go into the city center for instance, things haven't always been like this, but since the trochanteric bursitis developed, I stop off every tram stop on the way that possesses a pharmacy in said area, and load up on bottles of pulmo bailly and J.collis brown's, or I just do not go. The alternative is absolute searing agony, and neuropathy-induced feeling similar to what happens when you, as a naiive, innocent child, need a piss in the countryside, and happen to do it on a cattle-deterrant electric shock fence (yes, did that. wasn't much fun :P )

For about three days afterwards. Stuck in bed, possibly needing crutches just to walk to the bog or the lab, and in fact, quite unable to take a shite. Not due to the opioids, but simply because muscle movement anywhere near the waist or lower abdomen area puts strain on where the bursitis is. The actual original injury to my knee, where I fell on glass, which went through the gap just below the patella, and left chunks of it embedded into the patellar tendon, that was downright nasty, I had to WALK back home, several miles before I could get help (I did manage to remove the largest of it on the spot, at least, I got out the big fucking great shard that was sticking out (and in)

But that was nowhere near as bad as bursitis...christ. It was for years and years, that my problem was chronic knee pain, with some attendant muscle weakness due to my not being able to exert myself, or bear the same kinds of load as my other, good leg can, until eventually the change in walking gait caused the trochanteric bursitis to develop. Now my knee is just an annoying bitching whining pain in the background, and my problem is my hip, although my knee has got no better, the hip overshadows it. Both piss and moan about being walked on, etc., its just that my hip shouts a lot louder.


I'm hardly asking much from the pharmacy/pharmacist, all I want, is for valid, non-fraudulent, legitimate prescriptions to be taken, and the things written on them to be given to me. That, and for those doing so not to be rude to me.


Weirdest thing is, really, really odd...is that this very same place, has, on many, many occasions, filled without question, double-sized scripts, for two weeks, when I am on a weekly regular one, that is unchanging, save as said, for (cortico)steroids when needed, or the odd thing that might be needed on a one off basis, such as the occasional immodium, packet of APAP, aspirin, or what have you, or like this time, a couple of days worth of sleepers, I had a one time nitrazepam rx also, which she gave me without question.

In the past, I've had those regular scripts done early, not even just days, but got TWO weeks worth, after maybe three days after getting a full refill when due for it. Given to me by my doctor, the same, top-ranking, senior GP in the entire PCT area (maybe not the no.1 top bollock, but may well be, he is certainly one who appears in the local news, fighting for patient rights, and protesting about risks when services are in danger, etc. and he KNOWS what he is doing, thanks to many years of experience running my practice. He is a compassionate, sensible, decent guy, and not at all tightfisted, as everybody here probably knows many docs can be. He on the other hand, does not just hand CDs out like sweeties, I couldn't go in there and walk out with a diamorphine amp, methamphetamine and pentabarb party pack like, but he won't leave a patient to suffer either, out of a fear of giving out dependency-liable drugs, as some are)

I USED to get my prescriptions on a tuesday, every tuesday, the very moment the pharmacy I had the surgery send the prescriptions to (saves making an appointment every single time, and thus risking being unable to obtain a slot, and of course, leaves an appointment that somebody truly in need of seeing him face to face could otherwise have in my place), but now I had them switched to mondays, its just more convenient for me, helps me keep a routine, get everything first thing in a new week, moment they open, and not have to worry for the rest of the week, all sorted.

And this time I had a very specific good reason to change it, that would serve as an 'excuse' to make the change. Not that it is something that needs excusing. Basically an appointment, a very, very short time after the pharmacy opens, actually an appointment I heartily wish I could phone up to, and tell them to fuck off and not bloody bother me again, DHSS 'medical', yuck. Pharmacy opens their doors very, very soon before my interrogation session with the SS totenkopf divisio...err....benefit agency 'doctors', and I would otherwise have been unable to make the journey in time after collecting my meds.

So I told my doc that, and also that I wanted to change my due day to mondays in future. Fine with him he said, and that also he would give me a days worth of all my meds, bar the gaviscon, as I said I had some and wouldn't need more in the day before I'd have got another anyway. Not only that, but he had given me a repeat too. I didn't ask for one, but noticed after leaving, that the days worth he gave me, also came with a repeat too, not a huge one, but again, a repeat for a single days worth of medication.

Suits me. Means that I will indeed end up with one extra days worth, twice. Once for the rx itself, and then my refill.
Due I think, to the combination of being given the day rx AND changing to mondays from tuesdays at the same week. Why the doc also allowed me a refill of that (same quantity, one day of everything), I don't know, I didn't ask him, I didn't notice until I had already left...and besides, if it WAS unintentional, why take the chance he would realize it and ask me for it back :P

I didn't ask for the refill anyhow, he didn't tell me either, I just got one, to my pleasant surprise :)

Basically due to all the dates changing, the right hand not telling the left what it is doing, etc. seems like possibly it just lead to me being made entitled to a couple of extras thanks to the confusion all around.

That doesn't stop the prescription being legitimate and legal. And yes, I do 'need' them. Because that means that at least twice this year, I can go on a proper hike. I only got to go mushroom picking a bare couple of times last year, even when I knew there was much good eating there to be harvested, because I just didn't have the mobility to go and take them.

The odd balls-up like this, means when it happens, that I get to choose to DO something, something worthwhile and enjoyable, that needs walking. Otherwise, I don't get that choice. Its fucking easy for a doctor or pharmacist. THEY are not the one who suffers for it when they fuck up. I do. They go home and see their other half, get pissed and fall asleep in front of the TV. I'm the one left curled up in a fucking ball of agony unable to walk much.

THEY make the mistake, *I* do the suffering for it if they do.

I could have gone a full weekend without anticonvulsants, clonidine, and tizanidine, had I been unable to get those legitimate scripts today. In my experience oxycontin (at least, the 80mg greens), pack enough of a dosage that when taking two per day, my usual dosage, morning (or at least, whenever the hell I wake up....which is very rarely actually a morning, I think I'm allergic to those =D) and night time or evening, that if I have none on one day, yet have taken my full dose, both orally, the previous, then it tails off slowly enough that the first 12-15 hours or so is tolerable, unpleasant, but tolerable, as theres enough left floating around in me, thanks to taking steps to basify my urine, taking enzyme inhibitors, blocking peripheral opioid receptors in the gut with a mixture of immodium, codeine and morphine via OTC meds, so as to take up potential MOR binding sites peripherally, and allow more oxycodone to actually reach where its wanted most.

But I'll not be able to sleep during that, and be achy and not really in a great mood. Nothing a dose or two of a stimulant won't fix, but much longer than that and all hell breaks loose.

Would have been cold turkey if I'd been unable to get what my GP was generous enough to have given me during the switchover. He was being the kind, compassionate doctor he usually is, and simply making sure, that no matter what happened with the reorganizing, I would indeed have what he gave me, to fall back upon.


(if anyones wondering, why I was at one point, getting 3,4 times the rx I would have normally, and at a fraction of the time between due dates, that was due to SEVERE stomach problems, pain, constant repeated emesis, to the point where my doc understood perfectly and was ok with my having for that time period, used my oxycontin plugged in solution. I couldn't hold down ice cold coke (the beverage) for more than a few minutes without it just exploding back up again, bringing blood with it.

I haven't had it done yet, but I am getting tests done to measure blood levels of lead, copper, zinc, cadmium, tin, silver and mercury. I'm contemplating going back to my doc and asking him to also add on arsenic beryllium and thallium to rule them out. I have little reason to suspect poisoning from the latter two, but if screening is going to be done, I figure it sensible to include anything that I may possibly have been overexposed to, although the chances of exposure to anything more than absolutely fucking miniscule, tiny, microscopic traces of the faintest traces of beryllium, I've only ever come into contact with beryllium in its elemental, metallic state, save for in the distant past, touching beryl gemstone, which of course is not dangerous. As for the metal, little worry there either, always handled using gloves, or tweezers/tongs etc., and never in finely divided form.

Thallium again, incredibly unlikely. Not impossible, but very very unlikely.

So I had to at the time, get refills very early, due to being unable to retain anything. Swallow a pill...and often it would simply shoot back up again.
I want to find out bloody quickly. I'm sick of this....I have long, long, long hair, getting down to around my stomach, that took me ages to grow, and its falling out :(
 
You appear to be either just a tad toooooo medicated or just a bit too much but not getting it as often as he'd like. Guess which one I give less of a shit about? :(

;)<3

That aside, you clearly know the score so either do what's expected of yer or fuck 'em off. Same as anybody else sukkin corporate cock to get their script :\
 
Long post there, and I hadn't refreshed, and read the replies after.


Its the place I always go to. I used to go to one nearer to me, but theres not much between them, both local to where I live, maybe means an extra couple of minutes walking. I changed from the nearer one to that other one a while back, because they kicked up a stink about my chlormethiazole.

Not because they refused to give it to me, but they told me it had been discontinued by the manufacturer, and they can no longer get it themselves. And this is true, to a degree, it seems. Chlormethiazole IS still manufactured and available in the UK, however the pharmacy in question cannot obtain it from their suppliers. Not a problem, I just moved to the one a few hundred yards off, who can and do get it.

This place KNOWS I have the oxy script, its the only actual CD on my script, as chlormethiazole, despite being a hypnotic/sedative, is not. They serve me every time. And this was not a misprint, nor an unusually large script for the oxy or chlormethiazole. Two individual OC 80s, and two individual heminevrin 192mg caps. Really not a large quantity, by anybodys reckoning surely? that is enough to do what I require it to do for 24 hours. No more, no less.

IF I was intending to commit rx fraud...who here...thinks I would actually bother going to all the effort, of hacking into the computer system of the surgery, AND faking the docs signature (lol.....as if...its difficult enough to actually read his regular hand writing. I think that must be some sort of contagious disease amongst medical professionals, go into med school, catch the bug, and from then on, have one's writing resemble the results of an epileptic spider covered in ink go into status whilst lying on whatever is being written upon lol. I have never seen neat handwriting from a doctor yet =D)

Then would I really try and pull a con, for a mere TWO tablets? Rx fraud would mean risking a heavy sentence from the filth if caught and found guilty. Mere logic and economy rule out the possibiity of a scam. Which in any respect, she never suspected me of having done. She KNEW the prescriptions were indeed valid, actually I think she may have checked with my doc, although I am not sure. Just decided that in her words 'you don't need them'

Not fucking good enough.

Thankfully, got my stuff, or most of it, the other place hadn't got everything, but had all but one of the important ones (I.e those that suddenly stopping is unpleasant or dangerous to do). I can live without a nasal decongestant and topical NSAID spray, or a nonsedating antihistamine for a day and a half. Pain meds, no. Chlormethiazole...HELL no. I could have been killed by seizures in the past. One time I ended up arse over tit flying down the stairs after a massive myoclonic seizure started just as I'd finished on the shitter, ended up repeatedly smashing my face on the sink, trying to get to safety, only to go down the stairs. Next thing I knew I was in the ER, with my face smashed to bloody pieces, after having knocked myself out cold somewhere between down the stairs and landing in a heap, with some bloody bugger coming towards me with a rig, which I found out contained naloxone!

(luckily I had regained awareness literally seconds before I'd have gotten that stuck in me, idiots assumed I had taken a CODEINE overdose of all things, and refused to take my word for it that I had taken no codeine at all, and for that matter, it seemed lost on them that I wouldn't be physically capable of a fatal overdose on codeine. 500mg is the most, give or take a bit either way, that the liver will process. I am opioid-tolerant to a degree where the maximum dose of codeine, is also the minimum dose, at the same time :P)

Oh damn.....that was not fun. That shit me up so bad at the time, knowing just how close I came. Been on opiates for a bit less than 15 years (on rx that is), first codeine, then DHC, then working up through the OC strengths until I got to the 80s, and after that, fentanyl patches were tried, those left me withdrawing so fucking hard that I dragged myself straight back in the next day and begged to be put back on the OC80s.

Codeine overdose? fucking have to be kidding me. Must have been about 10-15 seconds before I'd have copped the narcan, had I not come round, and being disoriented, having a syringe being jabbed my way, naturally grabbed hold of the wrist holding it, and found out what it was.

Difficult and unpleasant that was too, being all disoriented from both the seizure itself and the getting brained a few times, trying to communicate 'what is that?' whilst I was, at the time, completely NV.
 
Shambles-no, not really.

I've just been round the houses so to speak, as far as pain management goes.

Currently, I'm just on OC80s, BD, as far as opioid analgesia goes, my other pain relief on my script comes in the form of a topical diclofenac spray, indomethacin (another NSAID) orally, and injections of corticosteroids into my knee, and hips. Aside from that, I just use over the counter codeine/morphine when I have to go out into town, etc. and have to walk what to me, are long distances. Or when I have to do something physically demanding, such as carrying a huge load of shopping back home. That, and kratom at times. Sometimes I'll pop into the head shop and grab some for a quick pick me up, but the pharmacist doesn't know that.

Daily, its mainly the OC and NSAIDs. Not enough though, but its like pulling teeth trying to get help for severe pain. It seems like if somebody has a 'stereotypically' very painful condition, like cancer, they get all the sympathy in the world, and pain teams going all out. But something less publicized and emotionally laden, then its a constant struggle. I'm getting referred for the second time, to a pain management specialist. I asked my doc to do it to a different hospital this time, the last time was a bloody farce. Guy didn't know a damn thing about pain management. Never saw him again after the first meeting.

I'm also having my doc read a load of papers I grabbed from journal publications on ULD naltrexone, in the hope that he will agree to give me some.



Edit-why the 'wink...going with former guess' ?

And I know what you mean about getting the stink-eye guys. Its always made me feel like I'm going to be looked at like some sort of junky or criminal when I have to go in and see a GP, other than this particular guy who I know well as a doc, and have been treated by for years, and at that, treated well. Others, even when my rx is due on the day I go in, always makes me feel uneasy asking for it.

The pharmacies though, its pretty obvious that I am indeed in a fair bit of pain, as I need a cane or crutch to walk a lot of the time, and I'm always with the crutch when I go in there, and make a bee-line for the nearest chair, lol, doing my best to make sure that the rude words likely to be used, are at least chosen to be ones that english speaking monoglots won't understand and be offended by :P
 
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"Yeah this is nothing excessive" was the most misleading introductory five words of a post I've ever read on BL.
 
^^ Sounds reasonable to me. I've been so absolutely monged off my doctor-prescribed dosages of opioids, muscle relaxers, and benzos, that I about nodded out at my grandparent's 50th wedding anniversary. Not my proudest moment. So yeah 2 oxy 80's a day is okay, for someone with a high opioid tolly!
 
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