Prescription opiate users: What is keeping you from using heroin?

[PersianStar]

Aaaah....so availability, quality, and less legal trouble. Ok I can see that, makes more sense. I guess it is less sketchy obtaining pills than dope in a lot of ways, although that was what made it exciting

 

[PersianStar]

OP, I don't get what you mean by "why not get high the right way?"

I grew up in the Grunge Scene and slamming was considered the "right way". Many people viewed other ways of using as a waste of material. You wanted the biggest bang for your buck.
Again... I do not condone anyone slamming, but this was the way back in my day.

 

[selfish]

Haha. I have a friend who recieved a decent script after he fell down the bar stairs. He "needed" them though so my attempts to snag some were futile.

 

[highhooked]

Hmm im a prescription opiate lover and i have done heroin a few times. I guess nothing is keeping me from it i just dont have a connect and asking around for heroin is pretty weird ya know? Just cuz of the stigma attached to it.

In my mind though opiates are fuckin opiates. So it doesnt really matter.

 

[TheLostBoys]

You know, for some people, doing it the right way involves not shooting up...
Iv'ing comes with so much more problems than snorting/popping pills or smoking smack, when I see my buddies who shoot up, are addicted to the needle and don't get high anymore unless they inject crazy amounts of dope, then myself who do other ROA and is still a chipper able to enjoy my DOC, i'm happy not to be in their shoes..

^^^^^^^^


This.

I started opiates for my scoliosis & chronic back pain & try not to abuse opiates. Ive tried oxy, morphine, hydrocodone, codeine & dihydrocodeine. All in all, I know exactly what im getting from pills & I know if I take them as prescribed, my tolerance wont sky rocket over night. Do I want to try heroin? Sure I do but if I go down that path, I will have a tolerance & my prescribed Norcos wont do shit for my pain.

Also, I hate needles with a passion & if I ever try heroin, it will be by snorting.

 

[verso]

I will say this, that snorting dope has helped to keep my tolerance in check. I'll watch people who IV rip one bag open after another and then load up their syringes. It's unbelievable, but to this day, sniffing two bags still gets me good, and I've been using pretty regularly for the past year.

 

[TheLostBoys]

I will say this, that snorting dope has helped to keep my tolerance in check. I'll watch people who IV rip one bag open after another and then load up their syringes. It's unbelievable, but to this day, sniffing two bags still gets me good, and I've been using pretty regularly for the past year.

What do you compare the strength of those 2 bags you usually do to how many pills of say oxycodone or morphine, both taken orally. I mean, howmany of these pills would you have to take to achieve the 2 bags of heroin you snort.

 

[verso]

What do you compare the strength of those 2 bags you usually do to how many pills of say oxycodone or morphine, both taken orally. I mean, howmany of these pills would you have to take to achieve the 2 bags of heroin you snort.

I would have to take 3 maybe 4 pills (oxycodone IR 30mg) to achieve the same high. If you know anything about the price of pills on the east coast, and I bet you do, then you'll see right away that those 2 bags of dope are by far the better deal. I mean, hands down, without question...

 

[chief ten beers]

I do not understand why people take opiate PILLS, get addicted, and feen for it when they can slam the real thing like Heroin. I do not get it!!! If you are going to get high, do the best right? Can someone explain it to me? Is it a needle thing? Is it because you feel like less of an addict? Is it accepted more? What????
I personally think it is a waste. I do not want anyone going out and slamming of course, but if your going to get high on opiates, then get high the right way. I've been clean for 11 years and proud of it, but I never forgot the motto I lived by when I was a heroin addict: If you slam it you taste it, if you snort it or eat it you waste it.
Please enlighten me.

The question is kind of absurd really. Do you know how many complications are involved in being a heroin addict? First off It's usually only available in high risk areas with associated high risk consequences , also heroin equals true painful physical addiction... while with pills you can manage pretty good if you have a script. Also as has been mentioned the purity can be counted on unlike street H.

 

[verso]

The question is kind of absurd really. Do you know how many complications are involved in being a heroin addict? First off It's usually only available in high risk areas with associated high risk consequences , also heroin equals true painful physical addiction... while with pills you can manage pretty good if you have a script. Also as has been mentioned the purity can be counted on unlike street H.

I, too, think the question is absurd but for completely different reasons... do you have any idea how difficult maintaining a recreational pill habit can be when you're broke? I don't have a script and no one I know does, so for us, we're paying top dollar, top dollar, all day long...

It's true that dope isn't so available around here as it is in "high risk areas," but a 30 minute trip into the city means copping bundles of dope for the same amount of money we'd spend on maybe 6 pills.

As for the quality... I'm not sure where you're from, but I can tell you that here on the east coast we have dope that ranges in quality from good to better to awesome. In other words, finding bad dope around here is a real chore, and I mean that... I've been disappointed with what I got maybe once.

 

[chief ten beers]

I, too, think the question is absurd but for completely different reasons... do you have any idea how difficult maintaining a recreational pill habit can be when you're broke? I don't have a script and no one I know does, so for us, we're paying top dollar, top dollar, all day long...

It's true that dope isn't so available around here as it is in "high risk areas," but a 30 minute trip into the city means copping bundles of dope for the same amount of money we'd spend on maybe 6 pills.

As for the quality... I'm not sure where you're from, but I can tell you that here on the east coast we have dope that ranges in quality from good to better to awesome. In other words, finding bad dope around here is a real chore, and I mean that... I've been disappointed with what I got maybe once.

I see you in CT as am I, and though I haven't had that many bad experiences going into the city in the past, I know people who have. It's risky business and I don't envy those who have to traffic in those area frequently to keep their jones at bay. But hey I'm not by any means judging those who do, it just sucks if one has to.

 

[verso]

I see you in CT as am I, and though I haven't had that many bad experiences going into the city in the past, I know people who have. It's risky business and I don't envy those who have to traffic in those area frequently to keep their jones at bay. But hey I'm not by any means judging those who do, it just sucks if one has to.

I wouldn't do it for a long time; I would throw people bags if they'd just go into the city for me to get it...

It worked for a long time, and then I nearly got beat one time, and so I began making the trip myself... I can tell you that, in my experience, I've never had a problem and in fact, the more run-down and dicey the neighborhood, the safer I feel... strangely enough.

 

[aveoturbo]

I dont do it for the same reason somebody else mentioned:continuity. I know that when I get my drugs from the pharmacy, its going to be exactly what it says it is. I know my tolerance to it, and know exactly how much I need to take care of my physical pain. Plus, pills dont leave track marks.

 

[verso]

Plus, pills dont leave track marks.

... neither does snorting dope.

 

[aveoturbo]

True. But snorting has its drawbacks as well. All in all, taking any substance in any form has its drawbacks. Pills will rot your gut, shooting will destroy your veins and is very incriminating, and snorting can suck (no pun intended). I have snorted some substances before and found that it was just easier to chew it up and swallow, parachute it, or just swallow them whole(never done coke/heroine tho). Heroine just seems like alot of work and again, you never know what your really getting.

Also, I get scripts cheap because my insurance pays 80% on all my prescriptions. Unless its name brand then I think It drops to 70%.

 

[verso]

I have snorted some substances before and found that it was just easier to chew it up and swallow, parachute it, or just swallow them whole(never done coke/heroine tho). Heroine just seems like alot of work and again, you never know what your really getting.

I've snorted a lot of dope, a lot of dope, and I've experienced no repercussions really apart from the occasional sinus infection. It hasn't caused me any nose bleeds, and it's actually one of the finer, gentler substances I've put up my nose...

It's not a lot of work at all; I dump the heroin out of the bag, chop it up a little bit, and snort it up... 12 minutes later and I'm high.

 

[aveoturbo]

For me its just open bottle, pour out what I want, grab nearest beverage, chill.

Its a pick your poison sort of question.

And for me and Im not trying to be an ass or anything, but, I can get 10/325mg x90 of Norco for < snip >. But I do get the point of buying pharmaceuticals on the street. Most pills are like < snip > and up per pill and thats outrageous. I've done it but was not happy about it. If your a recreational user and want to get the feel of opiates then that may be the way to go. But not for a habitual user. Thats when things can get a little crazy. You have to know when to draw the line.

The one thing about pharmaceuticals that pisses me off is that a govt can pull a drug off the market if they want to. Case in point: Darvocet. That was awesome stuff for my pain but I can no longer legally obtain it.

 

[TheLostBoys]

I would have to take 3 maybe 4 pills (oxycodone IR 30mg) to achieve the same high. If you know anything about the price of pills on the east coast, and I bet you do, then you'll see right away that those 2 bags of dope are by far the better deal. I mean, hands down, without question...

Definitely agree if you need (4) oxy 30 IR vs 2 packets of H.

 

[Carl Landrover]

I see you in CT as am I, and though I haven't had that many bad experiences going into the city in the past, I know people who have. It's risky business and I don't envy those who have to traffic in those area frequently to keep their jones at bay. But hey I'm not by any means judging those who do, it just sucks if one has to.

It really depends on the city you're talking about. Everyone I know who has gotten arrested (some of them multiple times) has happened in Hartford. I know of one person who has been arrested in New Haven, but that's not really all that surprising if you knew the person. I never spent enough time in Bridgeport to get a feel for the scene there, but it didn't seem to sketchy (I mean as far as getting busted). Not sure on Waterbury or New Britain, and I've never really been to Willimantic. I friend I knew lived there and he said he got offered dope a few times, and it seemed kind of a poorer area the one time I drove through.


It seems like there's an equal amount of bullshit in both scenes. At least with dope people seem to be more consistent with having product. Possibly because I've never met anyone who sold pills who wasn't addicted to them.


What I've never understood is why does no one sell dope in the suburbs? Why is it always run by either latino people or black people? I don't mean that to sound racist at all, but if I'm in the city looking for drugs, I'm probably not going to ask a random white person. I've just never seen anyone set up shop for selling dope in the suburbs when multitudes of suburban kids are driving to the city to get it.

 

[verso]

What I've never understood is why does no one sell dope in the suburbs? Why is it always run by either latino people or black people? I don't mean that to sound racist at all, but if I'm in the city looking for drugs, I'm probably not going to ask a random white person. I've just never seen anyone set up shop for selling dope in the suburbs when multitudes of suburban kids are driving to the city to get it.

In my experience, it goes a little something like this: in the city, black people have the dope game on lock. Surprisingly, I have never before met a latino dope dealer, but I've been told that the latinos have their hand in it as well, so I'll take your word for it. In the suburbs, we don't really have dealers; it's more like having a middle-man or liaison for the city dealers. I have a "dealer" one town away in the suburbs, for example, who picks up a stack at a time from the larger city dealers and makes a little bit of profit selling to all the dope-fiends in the suburbs.