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Cocaine Powdered cocaine for temporary opioid withdrawals?

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Ok, so I have heard and read that cocaine , insufflating small amounts of coke if you are 2-3 days shy of your next Oxycodone RX for example is bad, and I have seen all of the true, tried and tested ideal solutions to WD's from Oxy. WD from level of 100-160mg oxy daily. Rx'd from a Doctor. Ran out.

Good or bad idea if there are no other options. None.

Any feedback welcome. Thanks.
 
Bad idea, man. 100%.

You will get a bit of euphoria, but it is going to do shit for your actual withdrawals, other than make them worse.
 
I found that smoking v high quality cocaine base really helps to overcome opioid WD's. Once you get a taste for it you simply forget about everything else in your life except for your next pipe.

But the problem is the cost.
 
Probably so, they are def having a blast in peru , paco & his cuzins ... all jokes aside. I was just focusing on the Powder form HCL.

But thanks, sounds like a blast.

I found that smoking v high quality cocaine base really helps to overcome opioid WD's. Once you get a taste for it you simply forget about everything else in your life except for your next pipe.

But the problem is the cost.
 
Cocaine is a stimulant. It is going to make you shit more, your RLS will get worse, your anxiety will get worse, your nausea will probably get worse, and the come down is inevitable.

I'm sure other people will chime in with other reasons on top of those.
 
Cheers Venrak, this is what I recall, the uppers must be avoided at all costs. not to mention the terrible nausea + anxiety & the shits.. etc.. got it. All will be fine soon. RLS & true pain are my 2 top dreaded faktors to remember to take your meds as the doc rx'd and not run out.

Many Thanks.
 
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BAD. if your not puking already, cocaine will solve that problem for you. save the cocaine til you get your rx, or trade it for some op's. best of luck.
 
once upon a time, same thing happened to me except thankfully enough the cocaine hcl was a gift. As for whether it should have been avoided...?? Yeah! Absolutely. But I was in opioid withdrawals and in such states one craves relief from anything, even possibly illogical options. I think the cocaine just made me extremely talkative.... but during opioid WD you don't get to talk about interesting conversation topics.... you get a person who cannot shutup about how shitty they feel.


TL;DR stimulants will not make you feel better during opioid withdrawal, and I do not condone their use for these intentions, but they certainly provide more than enough distraction you could ever need, methamphetamine hcl in particular. NOTE: I didn't specify whether the distraction would be beneficial or counter productive. I've experienced benefits w/ d-meth but FWIW, if you're in opioid withdrawal, you're already going to be sweating, pissing, shitting, nausea, anxious, suffering insomnia, general malaise, and using stimulants during WD tends to just add to all of the symptoms of opioid WD. So in a way, I think (dose-dependent) stimulants may actually INTENSIFY the opioid withdrawals. But if you're tweaked out or cracked out, well there's plenty of time to regret your decision and feel like complete shit about it.... OR, you could (dont take offense to the term) man up for 72 hours.

As a fellow chronic pain patient who's underprescribed and knows all too well about how shitty the last few of every 30 days feels, by using stimulants I think that you are putting yourself at a huge risk for a pain flare, and if you have no pain medication and you're tweaking balls with a pain flare, you're going to likely spend a lot of time awake, anxious, shaking, and regretting.

My $0.02, don't take stimulants during opioid withdrawal especially since you only have to wait 72 hours.... Unless you like, wanna have been up for three days tweaking or smoking base when you go in to refill your script.... Which is never fun and is a pain flare waiting to happen.

When in opioid WD, I try to be unconscious as much as possible. So I've found that using stimulants like methamphetamine (I don't like to use cocaine, or street drugs) don't help me achieve that goal. I lean more towards the CNS depressants at the end of the month. Again, not a practice I condone. I'm a chronic pain patient / opioid addict, and I do the best I can.
 
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Coke kills my opiate withdrawals in their tracks, very temporarily, at which point I have to deal with both the opiate withdrawals and the comedown from using cocaine. Not highly recommended. Who wants to have to deal with coke cravings on top of physical and mental torment from opiate cessation? Not me, not ever again, no thank you.
 
Wow, tricomb! Great reply , really hit it on the head. Thanks... funny thing, or sad .. is that at times I was at 300+ mg of old Oxy original formula I still had those 72hrs occur, pure utter stupidity on my behalf. They say if u keep repeating the same behaviors and the same bad shit happens you must me crazy..
I will speak openly here as I did on other forums to help people, newbees so they learn from my fukups, and it blew me away when I was whining to a friend who has zero knowledge or expericne with opioid meds and said to me, "man up" we all have these challenges in life. I was about to throw my phone into the wall but caught myself laughing and explaining to him that this does not compare to the WD's from weed or coke (powder), for me at least.. even having seen the H , and I have simply done that. super lucky my dumb ass now this is my 3rd time short 72hrs almost precisely in 18 months ... the switch to OxyNeo messed me up cuz I was never short. More meant nasty side effects.

Clonazepam @ 4mg a day split up every 6 hours saved my RLS and anxiety. Without it nothing else helps. Being unconscious as much as possible or at least chilled out a bit is a true savior. After all I have been through these past several years, and knowing I cannot even get dressed and go out and do my regular life shit and still run low, out... I am dumbfounded.

Why is it opioids have such a grip and adverse hold on so many??? I know the answer now, trust me guys & gals. Just saying, I even lost a great friend over the topic. Something most and many do but my case was severely unbelievable.

Being under rx'd is a factor but id rather have my current 40mg x 3 daily + 60mg IR Oxy than 400mg OxyNeo , or the others that did not help. All I can say is for anyone reading this post to budget your meds and no matter how bad the pain is try to chill rather than walk the extra mile or lend them or whatever scenario it may be and not feel like a goof as I do. For 72 hours. :(

I can point out my pain centers like a red dot on a white wall. Flaring , pulsating, pain, real hardcore pain. I feel , truly feel for those who like my old lost friend IV and overkill these meds. thats why I stick to the plan, 99.99% of the time.

I just hope I can help someone new here and save them from this clock watching .... on the positive side though, I took 18 hour off every few months mid month to help with my huge taper (100mg per day less in 9 months) but no new pain management help. This time if I start back at 150mg and save my 30mg daily it truly does mean a win. Winning. Damn I wish I was friends with Charlie Sheen some days ..



once upon a time, same thing happened to me except thankfully enough the cocaine hcl was a gift. As for whether it should have been avoided...?? Yeah! Absolutely. But I was in opioid withdrawals and in such states one craves relief from anything, even possibly illogical options. I think the cocaine just made me extremely talkative.... but during opioid WD you don't get to talk about interesting conversation topics.... you get a person who cannot shutup about how shitty they feel.


TL;DR stimulants will not make you feel better during opioid withdrawal, and I do not condone their use for these intentions, but they certainly provide more than enough distraction you could ever need, methamphetamine hcl in particular. NOTE: I didn't specify whether the distraction would be beneficial or counter productive. I've experienced benefits w/ d-meth but FWIW, if you're in opioid withdrawal, you're already going to be sweating, pissing, shitting, nausea, anxious, suffering insomnia, general malaise, and using stimulants during WD tends to just add to all of the symptoms of opioid WD. So in a way, I think (dose-dependent) stimulants may actually INTENSIFY the opioid withdrawals. But if you're tweaked out or cracked out, well there's plenty of time to regret your decision and feel like complete shit about it.... OR, you could (dont take offense to the term) man up for 72 hours.

As a fellow chronic pain patient who's underprescribed and knows all too well about how shitty the last few of every 30 days feels, by using stimulants I think that you are putting yourself at a huge risk for a pain flare, and if you have no pain medication and you're tweaking balls with a pain flare, you're going to likely spend a lot of time awake, anxious, shaking, and regretting.

My $0.02, don't take stimulants during opioid withdrawal especially since you only have to wait 72 hours.... Unless you like, wanna have been up for three days tweaking or smoking base when you go in to refill your script.... Which is never fun and is a pain flare waiting to happen.

When in opioid WD, I try to be unconscious as much as possible. So I've found that using stimulants like methamphetamine (I don't like to use cocaine, or street drugs) don't help me achieve that goal. I lean more towards the CNS depressants at the end of the month. Again, not a practice I condone. I'm a chronic pain patient / opioid addict, and I do the best I can.
 
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Unless you have enough to be high for 72 hours straight I'd rather suffer opiate WD's solo than them combined with a coke comedown anyday.
 
thats exactly what I meant Mass08, yup. and I don't so .... chilllll..... is best. and all the other solutions mentioned on the forum ... so true.
 
Cocaine is a stimulant. It is going to make you shit more, your RLS will get worse, your anxiety will get worse, your nausea will probably get worse, and the come down is inevitable.

I'm sure other people will chime in with other reasons on top of those.

It will not make your RLS worse. RLS has been linked to Dopamine levels. That's why Requip, a Parkinson's Disease drug, is used to treat it. I ran short one month of my Oxymorphone, but had Ritalin, Soma, and Klonopin still. When I woke up, I would rail a Ritalin and eat a Soma, repeat mid-day, take the K-pin and drink alcohol (along with half of a Perc 5 that I had found... not shit compared to 15mg IV oxymorphone a day) to get to sleep.

I had a friend in GA who swore that cocaine and amps were what got him off of Heroin.

Just my two cents.
 
Ok, so I have heard and read that cocaine , insufflating small amounts of coke if you are 2-3 days shy of your next Oxycodone RX for example is bad, and I have seen all of the true, tried and tested ideal solutions to WD's from Oxy. WD from level of 100-160mg oxy daily. Rx'd from a Doctor. Ran out.

Good or bad idea if there are no other options. None.

Any feedback welcome. Thanks.

Do you not get drug tested?
 
Lucky you fox, lucky you indeed... and as for your buddy and coke to quit H, I could see it. Even K.

Lucky I also had 1mg = HydroMorphone , no acet / apap, crushables, and thankfully about 12 per day x 1mg of them for 3.5 days ... but orally, not good help unless I ate 10 and insufflated, 5mg or 5 units + 0.5mg clonazepam was good enough for 6hours max. Max, and then like I said people. My pain is real and this is not a hobby. I have been bed ridden with that too. They do not last long at all as my tolerance is minimum 40-50mg Oxycontin per 6hrs, or max 8hrs... thats 40mg slow release + 20mg Instant release in the 8hrs. But I can survive and function half ass at 150mg daily.

No IV. Only oral or insufflated, thankfully the new friendly formula is back in Canada. And I went without a year man, fukn hell , pure hell. Honestly. :X



It will not make your RLS worse. RLS has been linked to Dopamine levels. That's why Requip, a Parkinson's Disease drug, is used to treat it. I ran short one month of my Oxymorphone, but had Ritalin, Soma, and Klonopin still. When I woke up, I would rail a Ritalin and eat a Soma, repeat mid-day, take the K-pin and drink alcohol (along with half of a Perc 5 that I had found... not shit compared to 15mg IV oxymorphone a day) to get to sleep.

I had a friend in GA who swore that cocaine and amps were what got him off of Heroin.

Just my two cents.
 
Worked great in opposite land. I quit coke easily once I found dope for the first time.
 
I feel ya, trust me. the only downfall is like I started here if theres none of the Coca then life goes on but when chronic pain and severe pain at that controls every move we make then Oxy or some long term pain treatment is a must. also better for mood. Id rather be chill than wired like movie crank. takes too much energy.

Worked great in opposite land. I quit coke easily once I found dope for the first time.
 
Venrak, whats your take on a average 180lb male, severe pain, etc... healthy .blah .. blah .. 150 or mg oxy per day for pain and then all of a sudden down to 12mg HMC / Dilaudid per 3 days until a new script. + 0.5mg clonazepam / kpins. Nothing else.

Any wisdom or thoughts on the WD , etc... overall view.

Many Thanks , Again.
 
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