Potentiation of psychedelic effects of kratom

[Lord]

Any thoughts? Is 7-hydroxy-mitragynine or mitragynine the more psychedelic one, and is it available alone? Would something like 5-HTP potentiate or negate the psychedelia? I could certainly enjoy opiates but the mild psychedelia feels much more clean and close to real psychedelics than pot psychedelia and is what interests me atm.

I hear the depressant effects overtake the psychedelia at higher doses, but it still increases (just not as much of a contrast, right?).
Lastly, if I took it for a while, would it carry over into my sober life like other psychedelics or would it desensitize me and do the opposite? Does this depend on dosage/frequency, etc?
I'm not sure whether this is BDD or ADD material.

Thanks.

 

[ch1nawhite]

you can purchase 7-hydroxy-mitragyne from an rc vendor.. i heard its like x5 or x10 more potent than morphine, but effects of the chem of obviously not similar to morphine/oxy/hydrocodone. mitragyne studies have said that straight 7-hydroxy-mitragyne have wierd effects at high dosage. like vomiting, sick feeling, etc.. im 60% sure i read that on here, and read that they cannot get the chem to be as efficient as morphine, at the moment. im not sure though, i been up for 4 days on a molly binge, so my brain is probably a little off atm. lol. kratom never seemd to get me a buzz, so i usually use it on day 2 of my opie w/d.. im sure if u have a very low tolerance to opiates, then youll get a nod at high dosage.

ill try to keep looking through this thread, because kratom intrigues me so much, and i have decided to slow down on the roxys. going into day 2, and havent had any big w/d symptoms. honostly think its all mental..
sry to get off topic, but hopefully mitragynine will become the future pain killer, hope they get to make it to its full potential