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Pot Is Making Colorado So Much Money They Literally Have To Give Some Back To Residents

DENVER (AP) -- Colorado's marijuana experiment was designed to raise revenue for the state and its schools, but a state law may put some of the tax money directly into residents' pockets, causing quite a headache for lawmakers.

The state constitution limits how much tax money the state can take in before it has to give some back. That means Coloradans may each get their own cut of the $50 million in recreational pot taxes collected in the first year of legal weed. It's a situation so bizarre that it's gotten Republicans and Democrats, for once, to agree on a tax issue.

Even some pot shoppers are surprised Colorado may not keep the taxes that were promised to go toward school construction when voters legalized marijuana in 2012.

"I have no problem paying taxes if they're going to schools," said Maddy Beaumier, 25, who was visiting a dispensary near the Capitol.

But David Huff, a 50-year-old carpenter from Aurora, said taxes that add 30 percent or more to the price of pot, depending on the jurisdiction, are too steep.

"I don't care if they write me a check, or refund it in my taxes, or just give me a free joint next time I come in. The taxes are too high, and they should give it back," Huff said.

Legal weed has collided with the tax limitation movement because a 1992 voter-approved constitutional amendment called the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights requires all new taxes to go before voters.

The amendment also requires Colorado to pay back taxpayers when the state collects more than what's permitted by a formula based on inflation and population growth. Over the years, Colorado has issued refunds six times, totaling more than $3.3 billion.

Republicans and Democrats say there's no good reason to put pot taxes back into people's pockets, and state officials are scrambling to figure out how to avoid doling out the money. It may have to be settled by asking Colorado voters, for a third time, to cast a ballot on the issue and exempt pot taxes from the refund requirement.

Republicans concede that marijuana is throwing them off their usual position of wanting tax dollars returned to taxpayers. But they also tend to say that marijuana should pay for itself - that general taxes shouldn't pay for things like increased drug education and better training for police officers to identify stoned drivers.

"I think it's appropriate that we keep the money for marijuana that the voters said that we should," said Republican Senate President Bill Cadman. His party opposes keeping other refunds based on the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights but favors a special ballot question on pot taxes.

"This is a little bit of a different animal. There's a struggle on this one," said Sen. Kevin Grantham, one of the Republican budget writers.

After legalizing marijuana in 2012, Colorado voters returned to the polls the following year and approved a 15 percent excise tax on pot for the schools and an additional 10 percent sales tax for lawmakers to spend.

Voters were told those taxes would generate about $70 million in the first year. The state now believes it will rake in about $50 million.

But because the economy is improving and other tax collections are growing faster, Colorado is obligated to give back much of what it has collected. Final numbers aren't ready, but the governor's budget writers predict the pot refunds could amount to $30.5 million, or about $7.63 per adult in Colorado.

"It's just absurd," said Democratic state Sen. Pat Steadman, one of the Legislature's budget writers.

The head-scratching extends to Colorado's marijuana industry. Several industry groups actively campaigned for the pot taxes but aren't taking a position on whether to refund them.

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Uncle Sam is greedy?! Who would have thought?

Take note - these twits are elected representatives who are so fucking butthurt about the prospect of money going back to the people that they wanna create a law to stop it.

If anything, this 'deadly sin' is the straw that will bury 'the land of opportunity' once and for all.
 
"But David Huff, a 50-year-old carpenter from Aurora, said taxes that add 30 percent or more to the price of pot, depending on the jurisdiction, are too steep."

Yeah, and how much is hard-liquor taxed? Try 50 %! I support legalized cannabis, but am sick of hearing pot heads complain about the high taxes. Every legal vice in the history of mankind has been heavily taxed, otherwise where's the incentive in having it legal? Do the whiners even remember how bad things were, when the DEA could confiscate an entire house if your teenager was growing a few plants in their room?

I know it's difficult for heavy pot smokers to understand that not everyone shares their enthusiasm for legalization, but weed is one of the least expensive habits out there there, go buy it on the black market if 30% is too intolerable of a tax rate for what is still a Schedule 1 drug in the rest of the country.
 
"I think it's appropriate that we keep the money for marijuana that the voters said that we should," said Republican Senate President Bill Cadman. His party opposes keeping other refunds based on the Taxpayers' Bill of Rights but favors a special ballot question on pot taxes.

Better go collect up the signatures like we had to when we got medical and recreational passed.

Politicians.. once were opposed and now they are falling all over themselves to keep all that cash. Oh yeah the sky didn't fall after all, but it seems to be raining money for new schools and such.. at a little over 7 dollars per person in CO im pretty sure no one will really care if they keep it for schools and such.

I love how proactive Colorado is with its referendums Slowly taking control of the bloody politicians. We need a version of this on the federal level.. lord knows congress could use a hand.. then they would at least have one.

List of Colorado ballot measures

Taxpayer Bill of Rights

But David Huff, a 50-year-old carpenter from Aurora, said taxes that add 30 percent or more to the price of pot, depending on the jurisdiction, are too steep.

Ever heard of growing your own??
 
Banana I agree that taxing it is the whole point of making it legal, but obviously they are taxing too high and it should be lowered if they're being faced with the possibility of having to refund it.

I live in CO and recreational weed is awesome, but medical is the way to go - same shit, same legal standing and way lower tax. The tricky part is finding a friend with a red card.
 
Banana I agree that taxing it is the whole point of making it legal, but obviously they are taxing too high and it should be lowered if they're being faced with the possibility of having to refund it.

I live in CO and recreational weed is awesome, but medical is the way to go - same shit, same legal standing and way lower tax. The tricky part is finding a friend with a red card.

I agree. Pointing out the past being worse does not excuse the fact that if you do not agree to be taxed and regulated-and the licensure for rec stores requires 7 figures in the bank-then you can't participate. It's not about just 'paying your taxes,' its the fact that the legislation favors wealthy big business people and doesn't let the little guy in the door very easily. If you're not rich, MMJ, or black market in Colorado, you'll work for someone else forever.

For example, if Florida had passed their pending legislation, only a couple of people in the entire state would be allowed to produce. Specifically, the legislation required 30 years of ag business under your belt. That automatically took out anyone under 50 with the cost eliminating the rest of the competition. Of course, it didn't pass but when they try again in '16, it will happen.
 
I'm sure it is making them a ton of money, but my pain doc and I were talking about all of this stuff. We are both pro mmj, by the way. Anyway, he and his partner run a few clinics in various states and he was telling me that the mexican cartels are already getting their grasp on the Colorado scene. They've been around but I guess it is getting worse now.
 
Banana I agree that taxing it is the whole point of making it legal, but obviously they are taxing too high and it should be lowered if they're being faced with the possibility of having to refund it.

I live in CO and recreational weed is awesome, but medical is the way to go - same shit, same legal standing and way lower tax. The tricky part is finding a friend with a red card.

Can't you just grow your own there?

I guess not everyone has a greenthumb but fuck, why buy at all to begin with?
 
Can't you just grow your own there?

yes, and most marijuana strains can be gown easily. people in Colorado say that they get ~18% THC hydroponic sensamillia <$50 and eight from recreational shops in Colorado (i don't think this is against the rules). this is considerably better potency and lower price than I paid during the time i smoked illegal marijuana. the tax isn't excessive. i think the money should be invested in harm reduction, medical research, and schools as they planed. this mitigates the harm caused from marijuana use. i think the problem is that the government budget made a low estimate of tax revenue. the government should correct the error in their next budget and keep future marijuana taxes. the citizens voted on the tax.
 
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