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post-MDMA/alco binge problems :(

The funny thing is though, at the time of these mishaps you never think you will pull through. On day 6 after taking my first and last dose of 800mg DXM i honestly thought i had brain damage, but on day 7 my eyes were no longer crossed.
 
Darksidesam said:
The funny thing is though, at the time of these mishaps you never think you will pull through. On day 6 after taking my first and last dose of 800mg DXM i honestly thought i had brain damage, but on day 7 my eyes were no longer crossed.
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I thought I was brain damaged too! It must've been a week before I felt even remotely normal. I was crying and praying and everything :(
So compared to that, I guess I feel awesome now. lol. I've met this nice girl though, and it's hard to explain what's going on with me and why I keep saying I'm having 'off' days and stuff. I have told her what I did (my naughty weekend), and she's cool with that, but I don't think she gets what's going on with me really.
 
I just read how long your jaw was sore for.
Im not even lying right? i took 100mg on a 63 day wait, of crystal mdma and from the smiling,, 2 weeks later my jaw was still hurting.
 
Darksidesam said:
I just read how long your jaw was sore for.
Im not even lying right? i took 100mg on a 63 day wait, of crystal mdma and from the smiling,, 2 weeks later my jaw was still hurting.
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My jaw is still sore on some days and it's now been around 6 weeks. It was bad yesterday. I have found that if I push hard in the jaw line just above where the upper wisdom teeth are/would be, the pain sort of goes away for a bit.
I'm not sure if this is a secondary symptom of the general stress though. Maybe I'm clenching without realising? That's why I got into the chewing gum thing.
 
Well make sure you get Vitamin B into your system as well as magnesium.
My guess is, at 6 weeks if your having problems still? that the Combination you did, includuding and Especially the alcohol has confused your nerves a lot. But they should go back to normal after a while.

I don't have much experience on MDMA + Alcohol as i rarely rarely rarely drink. I haven't drunk any alcohol since november as it goes.
My dad ruined alcohol for me, he likes it too much ;) Lol
 
Thanks Sam. I'm not a heavy alcohol drinker usually. It was just that I had been living with family for a few years and I just knew I was going to take advantage of my own space to "push it to the limits", and didn't expect these results.

I have been taking multi-vitimins & multi-minerals, but I do sometimes forget. Actually, I forgot today, so thanks for the reminder. Gonna go and take it now :)
 
All hail pregabalin.

I'm still a little fragile, but generally doing well, thanks to pregabalin. I'm very occassional taking 2.5mg diazepam still, but it is very infrequent.

It cured my PE too. I have staying powwa for the first time in my life (now that I'm 31). It hasn't killed the desire like SSRIs do, although if I take too much then it's just impossible to come. It basically desensitizes, which is perfect, at the right dose. Ironically, the whole reason I had ecstasy in my life was so that I could have properly enjoyable sex every now and then to make up for the usual 2 minutes of over-excitement.

Has anybody ever tried periactin (cyproheptadine) ? I'm thinking of adding it so that I can stay on my morning & evening dose of pregabalin (75mg each), and still have lots of sex. I have had to drop the evening dose lately. Apparently periactin helps with ssri-induced sexual dysfunction, so might balance things out, but also it "Has been used in the management of moderate to severe cases of serotonin syndrome", which is quite appropriate here.
 
Thanks for the updates. I don't find any evidence about the use of pregabalin for this sort of disorder. Could you provide some reference?

Hope you continue to improve!
 
Blighted said:
Thanks for the updates. I don't find any evidence about the use of pregabalin for this sort of disorder. Could you provide some reference?

Hope you continue to improve!
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The pregabalin is for the debilitating anxiety.
The USA may not recognise this use of pregabalin but the EU does, and it does indeed work. it doesn't help with tension like benzos do, but it made me feel mostly normal.
I have big tension problems still, mainly around jaw, eyes, temples. I have TMJD. Doctor (who i confessed all to), will obviously not prescribe me proper painkillers.
 
I'm still brain damaged.

I am taking 10mg Buspirone 3x times per day. This has mostly fixed the chronic jaw pain, but towards the end of a day, I feel everything tighten up still, my head/temples, down in a straight line through my TMJ to my chin, goes all weird, and I feel spaced out, and the stomach goes, and hearing goes funny/faint-tinnitusy.

I reduced the pregabalin to 50mg twice a day. I have grave concerns of its safety (withdrawal). I will look to cut it out altogether at some point.

What is most concerning, is that still, a tiny QUARTER of an already tiny 37.5mg venlafaxine pill, makes me wired and serotonin-syndromey for a day and a half. I have become hypersensitive to serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Trazodone felt dark and scary too.

At least I'm not taking the benzo regularly any more. I had a bit last week when I went for a meal with some customers/friends, but none for a few weeks other than that.
 
hi Carl0s,

sorry to hear you are still suffering.

good thing you quit the benzos.

do you think you could manage some weeks completely off meds to see where your actual baseline is now ?

best of luck !
 
cope said:
hi Carl0s,

sorry to hear you are still suffering.

good thing you quit the benzos.

do you think you could manage some weeks completely off meds to see where your actual baseline is now ?

best of luck !
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I'm not sure that would be a good idea right now. I had terrible ear/JAW/tooth (CAPS = focal point) pain today, although I did sleep very restlessley last night after going cold turkey on the zopiclone again. I usually only do that on a Friday, but I fell asleep before even thinking about having a sleeping tablet. I've probably been taking zopiclone continutally for a month or so this time around, and I should only stop that on a non-school-night due to the rebound insomnia/fuzzy sleep. I'm going to take 5mg diazepam tonight (in place of the zopiclone) so that I don't feel the same or worse tomorrow.

Anyway, regarding my general baseline, meds, etc, well, things are not as well as they could be. While the buspirone helped a *lot* with the sore teeth/jaw (except these last few days it's been creeping back, and today really badly), I know that things are not right. My stomach goes bad. I have been out buying buscopan "cramps" tablets, which didn't help at all, and, well, my stomach just still goes in knots towards the end of the day, or when I get stressed.

So I ordered various brain meds the other day. I know SSRIs don't mix well with me now, so I ordered the following a couple of days ago. I'll let you know if they help (Doc will be horrified. I have an appointment for 9th October.. that's the earliest I can get):

Bupron SR (Bupropion Hydrochloride) - 150mg (10 Tablets) X 3 = £11.97
Caberlin (Cabergoline) - 0.5mg (4 tablets) X 1 = £9.89
Norpress (Nortriptyline) - 10mg (100 Tablets) X 1 = £10.99
Selgin (Selegiline) - 5mg (10 Tablets) X 3 = £9.87
Zopicon (Zopiclone) - 7.5mg (10 Tablets) X 5 = £19.95

Obviously I have ordered Zopiclone because that's something I use, and am generally in control of. I use it from time to time, and stop using it for approximatley 1/3rd of the time, i.e. 4 weeks on 2 weeks off.. just happens to end up that way, I don't think it's a problem generally, but it's best to stop it on a Friday..

Bupropion, I'm not so keen on. I remember how it made me feel like I wanted to cry for how tense and anxious I felt, when I was given it to quit smoking. But, I have an ulterior motive: I'm looking to boost sex drive. I'm single, but I still want to feel driven. This is another reason for avoiding many meds.

Cabergoline: OK, see above.

Nortryptiline: Secretly, this is the one I am hoping will help me get on with my life. I was going to order Amitryptiline, but ended up on this instead. Potentially less side effects than ami.

Selegiline: I have tried this years ago and felt nothing. Something has made me consider giving it a whirl again.

There's a good chance that I'll take a nortryptiline tab, feel scared, fear the bupropion (and never take it), and get nothing from the selegiline. Maybe I need to take my time. I never tried the moclobemide that I ordered alongside the trazodone last time (couple months ago). Trazodone made things dark and worrying, and I just wanted to go to sleep.

Did I mention: don't mess with drugs.
 
Hi Carl0s,

i see.

on your list i see selegiline, i also thought about giving it a try, but as futura mentioned in another thread i am trying tianeptine currently.

its early days (day 3 today), it definitely does something but its way to soon to say if this helps in the long term.

you can always pm me if you have a question.

all the best for your recovery!
 
cope said:
Hi Carl0s,

i see.

on your list i see selegiline, i also thought about giving it a try, but as futura mentioned in another thread i am trying tianeptine currently.

its early days (day 3 today), it definitely does something but its way to soon to say if this helps in the long term.

you can always pm me if you have a question.

all the best for your recovery!
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Thanks Cope. Good luck to you too.

I have also ordered some tianeptine, and some etifoxine.

I had previously decided not to order tianeptine because I read a few reports of night time terrors/misery, possibly due to the short half life.

Let's hope we all get better!
 
cope said:
Hi Carl0s,

i see.

on your list i see selegiline, i also thought about giving it a try, but as futura mentioned in another thread i am trying tianeptine currently.

its early days (day 3 today), it definitely does something but its way to soon to say if this helps in the long term.

you can always pm me if you have a question.

all the best for your recovery!
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I have had my second (1x day) bupropion 150mg (sustained release) pill tonight. So far there is no scary akathisia weirdness like Venlafaxine was causing.

I will not take the selegiline (deprenyl) for now, because it is contraindicated with buspirone, due to extreme high blood pressure.

How's the tianeptine? Any side effects? I'm hoping the buproprion will make me extra horny, and not the opposite.
 
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Hi carl0s,

so far tianeptine is very nice, its effect on mood is only taking some days, zero side effects. first days may seem a little weird but you should give it a week.

once you started it i am curious to know if it helps you too.

good luck ! :)
 
cope said:
Hi carl0s,

so far tianeptine is very nice, its effect on mood is only taking some days, zero side effects. first days may seem a little weird but you should give it a week.

once you started it i am curious to know if it helps you too.

good luck ! :)
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I'm pleased to hear that. As I mentioned in the other thread, I am on day 3 of bupropion 150mg (sustained release) in combination with my 3x10mg buspirone and 2x50mg pregabalin. Feeling pretty great these past couple of days, but we'll see if the stomach pains stay gone. I'm still drinking far too heavily but I guess that's boredom really. Just put tonight's bottle of Cava in the freezer..

I have tianeptine on its way to me but am hoping to not need to try it. Early days on the bupropion though.
 
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how is buspirone for anxiety? how does it compare to something like lorazepam?
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Nothing will ever be as effective as the fast-acting lorazepam. However nothing will probably be as problematic and addictive either.

Buspirone works. It's like the anti-anxiety effect of an antidepressant (ssri type e.g. paroxetine), without the other main effects. There is no melting relief pleasure like benzos.

a full 10mg dose does cause dizzyness and sort of brain shocks, strangely very similar to SSRI discontinuation syndrome, or after ecstasy excess, but you can get used to it, or take 5mg pills a little bit apart instead.
 
5htp and l tyrosine work wondors. then go for some piracetam to take over the long term. good for the cognitive repair. Exercise well, eat well and face your fears that are causing your anxiety. Try and be as social as you can and your brain will soon realise it is not that difficult to perform normally. I wish you a speedy recovery. Have been in the same situation as you many times after ridiculous binges of mdma and alcohol and i can relate to how you are feeling right now. It gets better.
 
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